Adult Entertainment Industry: Case related

  • #201
For a girl like her..no offence..$1500.00 would probably make her drop EVERYTHING including her/whatshisname's cellphone...J/S.

RIP Amber..we all make mistakes... DAMN! I'm Soo sorry for you baby girl!

That just makes me sad...
 
  • #202
  • #203
For a girl like her..no offence..$1500.00 would probably make her drop EVERYTHING including her/whatshisname's cellphone...J/S.

RIP Amber..we all make mistakes... DAMN! I'm Soo sorry for you baby girl!

With all due respect, these girls are street smart, and if that amount was offered for no good reason, red flags would go off big time. If anything, it would cause them to take GREATER precautions, not fewer.
 
  • #204
With all due respect, these girls are street smart, and if that amount was offered for no good reason, red flags would go off big time. If anything, it would cause them to take GREATER precautions, not fewer.

Even for a street smart addict, the need for the drug (and the money to buy more drugs) will override the red flags.
 
  • #205
These are not junkie streetwalkers though. They would be cautious, especially if they have been in the business for a while, since they would be well aware of the bad things that can happen if you are not.
 
  • #206
These are not junkie streetwalkers though. They would be cautious, especially if they have been in the business for a while, since they would be well aware of the bad things that can happen if you are not.

Apparently you have NEVER seen how a heroin addict operates.
She was an ADDICT. ADDICTS do things that are UNREASONABLE to a normal person. That is part of the addict way. I have been one myself (Clean for 8 years now.) I have also lost 2 family members to heroin. I KNOW FIRST HAND what a drug addict will do for their fix. I've done it, I've seen it, I've THANKFULLY recovered from it. Not many do! I live a happy lifestyle now, but I know that when I was an addict, I was going places and doing things you couldn't pay me $1,000,000 to do now. And you know why I did it?

TO get high. How I got there didn't matter... As long as I made it to my destination.
 
  • #207
Amber was addicted to some pretty powerful drugs. She obviously set her Smarts aside in favor of her addiction. I don't understand the reasons the other women did but Amber I do.
 
  • #208
Apparently you have NEVER seen how a heroin addict operates.
She was an ADDICT. ADDICTS do things that are UNREASONABLE to a normal person. That is part of the addict way. I have been one myself (Clean for 8 years now.) I have also lost 2 family members to heroin. I KNOW FIRST HAND what a drug addict will do for their fix. I've done it, I've seen it, I've THANKFULLY recovered from it. Not many do! I live a happy lifestyle now, but I know that when I was an addict, I was going places and doing things you couldn't pay me $1,000,000 to do now. And you know why I did it?

TO get high. How I got there didn't matter... As long as I made it to my destination.


Powerful post Moon! Stay up! Good for you and God bless.
 
  • #209
My son got caught up with a female who was hooked on Oxys and herion and methadone. My sweet grandaughter (rest her tortured soul) was born addicted to that shyt! : ((

She had to be on methadone...poor baby...she cried and cried and cried when they started to wean her from it.

Oh God this is the HARDEST thing I have EVER gone through!

EVER!

She was almost off of it, when she died at three months old.

Granny misses you baby girl!
 
  • #210
My son got caught up with a female who was hooked on Oxys and herion and methadone. My sweet grandaughter (rest her tortured soul) was born addicted to that shyt! : ((

She had to be on methadone...poor baby...she cried and cried and cried when they started to wean her from it.

Oh God this is the HARDEST thing I have EVER gone through!

EVER!

She was almost off of it, when she died at three months old.

Granny misses you baby girl!

My heart goes out to you, your son and your little granddaughter...

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  • #211
Thank you TF that is a beautiful sentiment.
 
  • #212
Again, I am so sorry on the death on your little granddaughter. You had mentioned her death before, but not the details of it. For an innocent baby to go through such horrible pain and death really shakes one's faith and beliefs. My deepest sympathies.
 
  • #213
Again, I am so sorry on the death on your little granddaughter. You had mentioned her death before, but not the details of it. For an innocent baby to go through such horrible pain and death really shakes one's faith and beliefs. My deepest sympathies.

Thank you Novice. It's all still so fresh. It's been a little over a year. I have so much pain and anger still. I told this girl when I first met her, whatever you do just don't hurt my son.

Well we know how that turned out.

My sweet baby girl suffered so much, she is resting peacefully now.
 
  • #214
These are not junkie streetwalkers though. They would be cautious, especially if they have been in the business for a while, since they would be well aware of the bad things that can happen if you are not.

I wanted to further elaborate for you, from someone who has walked Amber's shoes before. I grew up in a very rough part of the island...As a teenager, I knew simple things like 'don't talk to strangers' and 'don't get into cars'... all that hype.

I also grew up though where it was 'don't leave your house when it gets dark out.' I was no 'tough girl' so you can imagine my place in that town. Drugs ran around that neighborhood like it was common place...

I would never walk down those streets alone. Ever.
I wouldn't talk to any of those people on those streets. Ever.
I wouldn't even make eye contact with them. Ever.

Fast forward to after some time playing with heroin.
Guess what I was doing......

I was walking down those streets alone.
I was talking to 'those' people.
I was not only making eye contact, but I was ONE OF THEM.
I would not only walk down the streets, but I'd go behind buildings with these people to do drugs! We were smoking and snorting drugs like it was candy. I WAS ONE OF THEM.

I went from being a clean, respectable person, to sleeping on the streets, THOSE streets, behind THOSE buildings, with THOSE people... Why? Because at home, there was no drug offerings. I wasn't going to wake up to my mom and a bag of dope. No. But you bet if I stayed with those people, I was gonna get high!

What is my point...?
I at one point swore I'd not do simple things like associate with these people, yet through my addiction, I not only became one of them, but chose to do things I would NEVER do in a NORMAL state of mind.

The person who got me high for the first time....?
I was in high school, my dad was a junkie, my high school brought "recovering addicts" into our health class to talk to us about not using drugs. One woman, she touched my heart so much. I cried for her and cried for her.... She was ME, just older. She was hurt, she watched her parents use, and she in turn started to use. (I had not used yet though mind you) She lived in a shelter, lost her kids, and oh my heart just went out to her. So much so I asked to speak with her on the side after the presentation. I told her my story about my dad, and we cried and cried. She gave me her number.

A few months later I got into a fight with my parents, and 'knowing it all', I left and wound up in a homeless shelter. My world was full of joy and hope when I realised the woman who touched my heart so much was living in the SAME HOME as me! I was over joyed! She'd understand....

She'd be my friend.

It was no more than 5 hours before she had a bag of heroin in my hand.
6 hours later I was nodding out for hours.
The next day.... We were out there looking for fixes.

My next point is, no matter what 'presentation' someone gives you, there is probably always a deeper story... This is why I don't beleive a word AD and MP say. They are scum. They used her for profit. Like she was cattle.

Sickening.

I hope you guys take something from this, from the POV of an addict in recovery.
 
  • #215
Thank you TF that is a beautiful sentiment.

I send hugs and hugs and more hugs your way!!!
That is a terrible thing.... :((
My heart breaks for you. :(
 
  • #216
With all due respect, these girls are street smart, and if that amount was offered for no good reason, red flags would go off big time. If anything, it would cause them to take GREATER precautions, not fewer.

Tugela this is where you are wrong. The opiate addiction is very strong. Streetsmarts, morals are all thrown out the window when the idea of withdrawal is thrown into the picture. You ever been dopesick?
 
  • #217
I send hugs and hugs and more hugs your way!!!
That is a terrible thing.... :((
My heart breaks for you. :(

Thank you Moon.

What a VERY powerful story. My heart breaks for you as well. Words cannot describe how proud I am of you for sharing your story. You will be in my prayers that the Lord keep you safe and strong.
 
  • #218
Justice, I will include you, your children and your grandbaby in my prayers. I understand. We share the same loss.
 
  • #219
Justice, I will include you, your children and your grandbaby in my prayers. I understand. We share the same loss.

Thank you Deedee.
I have faith so I'll be okay, my grandbaby has peace so she'll be okay, it's my son that needs the prayers and I thank you so much if you remember him in yours!

I am so sorry that you have shared in such a loss.

So often we withdraw (I have done it) and believe we are alone in our pain. My being here and opening up and having others open up and imerseing myself in various cases at WSs has been a healing eperience for me. It has made me realize that I am not alone and singled out for pain. It is part of everybodies life.

I will pray for you too Deedee. In fact I will include all of you here in my prayers . I believe in the power of prayer.
 
  • #220
Addiction is an extremely powerful motivator. Research indicates pleasure center activation, even in those who have been off drugs for as long as 30 years. Some researchers have hypothesized, and proven in experimental settings with fMRIs, that a pavlovian response is triggered from something as simple as visual stimulus. (i.e., watching a video of a drug sale, for example).

We know that AC had been in and out of drug treatment ( link ). It is therefore, not necessarily a leap, that she would throw caution to the wind if she were in dire need of a fix.
 

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