"Adventurous woman" sought to serve as surrogate mother to Neanderthal clone baby

  • #81
Grant reviews have their own ethics review boards for the subjects that are very strict. I doubt this would ever pass.
 
  • #82
Grant reviews have their own ethics review boards for the subjects that are very strict. I doubt this would ever pass.

I thought Grant was in Grant's tomb? :waitasec:
 
  • #83
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/s...oints-to-new-path-and-quandaries.html?hp&_r=0

In theory — a wild theory — backbreeding humans might even enable scientists to bring back Neanderthals, Mr. Greely said. About 2 to 3 percent of human DNA seems to be relics of Neanderthal DNA, he said, and different people have different Neanderthal DNA segments. Of course, he added, “a 500-generation backbreeding among humans is not feasible.” And, he added, “It would be a really bad idea.”
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/s...oints-to-new-path-and-quandaries.html?hp&_r=0

In theory — a wild theory — backbreeding humans might even enable scientists to bring back Neanderthals, Mr. Greely said. About 2 to 3 percent of human DNA seems to be relics of Neanderthal DNA, he said, and different people have different Neanderthal DNA segments. Of course, he added, “a 500-generation backbreeding among humans is not feasible.” And, he added, “It would be a really bad idea.”
And that would be me, chirren. I had my mtdna etc done & I have that Neanderthal relic.
Probably explains my poor impulse control & total lack of mouth filter, especially on the Mickey Shunick forum.
 
  • #87
It would have to be a Caesarian birth, no question. And I'd still so do it.

The thing I'd imagine would be difficult about surrogacy is blood type and possible autoimmune reactions.

I don't care about any moral high grounds here, every pharmacy in the world is stacked to the top shelf with untold animal suffering and death, it's not great (it's awful, really) but that's the price of medical research as things stand.

So - what to name him (or her!)?

Just the idea of it horrifies me!
Are you serious? You condone this? Really?




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  • #88
I don't expect this guy to succeed even if he is serious I but don't have any problem with it. What are they afraid of, that this person won't have a soul? I don't even have a problem with human cloning.

There was a Russian doctor who supposedly tried to crossbreed, through artificial insemination, humans and apes but failed although I believe most scientists think that it could be done. I'm basically libertarian but I would even think that should be illegal unless someone could convince me that positives outweighed negatives which I highly doubt. Somebody will almost certainly do it someday just to prove they can even though it sounds like Nazi Germany. When it happens, I pray that this poor being is loved and well cared for.

THUD.......


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  • #89
Researchers examining the DNA extracted from the fossilized toe of a 50,000-year-old Siberian Neanderthal woman believe that the woman was the child of an incestuous relationship.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/18/Neanderthal-Fossil-Indicates-Incest-Was-Common

The researchers also found that the genome sequence hinted that Neanderthals interbred with the Denisovans and that another human ancestor may have been part of the pattern, possibly 🤬🤬🤬🤬 erectus.

There has already been evidence of interbreeding between Neanderthals and modern humans, as well as between Denisovans and modern humans.
 
  • #90
Researchers examining the DNA extracted from the fossilized toe of a 50,000-year-old Siberian Neanderthal woman believe that the woman was the child of an incestuous relationship.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/18/Neanderthal-Fossil-Indicates-Incest-Was-Common

The researchers also found that the genome sequence hinted that Neanderthals interbred with the Denisovans and that another human ancestor may have been part of the pattern, possibly 🤬🤬🤬🤬 erectus.

There has already been evidence of interbreeding between Neanderthals and modern humans, as well as between Denisovans and modern humans.

That might have contributed to their extinction. :dunno:
 
  • #91
steely I'm not a scientist but that was my first thought.
 
  • #92
Just the idea of it horrifies me!
Are you serious? You condone this? Really?


:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

:what: :ohwow: ... yes. :ohwow: :what:

:panic: :noooo: :panic:
 
  • #93
Just the idea of it horrifies me!
Are you serious? You condone this? Really?




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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/18/neanderthal-interbreeding-denisovans/4034829/

"What we were struck by most was just how complicated it is and how much interbreeding there was among all these human relatives," says study co-author Montgomery Slatkin, a population geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley. "Every new fossil … shows more evidence of more kinds of interbreeding."

Most striking of all, the analysis found that Denisovans mated every so often with an archaic human that had arisen a million or more years earlier. The most likely candidate, the researchers say, is 🤬🤬🤬🤬 erectus, an early human that began to spread out of Africa roughly 2 million years ago – many hundreds of thousands of years before Denisovans began to emerge as a separate branch of the human family tree.
 
  • #94
Though Denisovans and Neanderthals eventually died out, they left behind bits of their genetic heritage because they occasionally interbred with modern humans. The research team estimates that between 1.5 and 2.1 percent of the genomes of modern non-Africans can be traced to Neanthertals.

http://phys.org/news/2013-12-neanderthal-genome-early-human-interbreeding.html

"The paper really shows that the history of humans and hominins during this period was very complicated," said Slatkin, a UC Berkeley professor of integrative biology. "There was lot of interbreeding that we know about and probably other interbreeding we haven't yet discovered."

bbm
 
  • #95
Though Denisovans and Neanderthals eventually died out, they left behind bits of their genetic heritage because they occasionally interbred with modern humans.

Well that explains a few things.
 
  • #96
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/18/neanderthal-interbreeding-denisovans/4034829/

"What we were struck by most was just how complicated it is and how much interbreeding there was among all these human relatives," says study co-author Montgomery Slatkin, a population geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley. "Every new fossil … shows more evidence of more kinds of interbreeding."

Most striking of all, the analysis found that Denisovans mated every so often with an archaic human that had arisen a million or more years earlier. The most likely candidate, the researchers say, is 🤬🤬🤬🤬 erectus, an early human that began to spread out of Africa roughly 2 million years ago – many hundreds of thousands of years before Denisovans began to emerge as a separate branch of the human family tree.

BBM

Hey hunny? Ever been for a ride on a wheel before? We can go back to my place, it's heated , with fire! Just like the fire in your eyes. I've never seen such a sexy prominent forehead. I bet YOU'RE not as dumb as they say you Desovnas are. I just killed a mammoth, yeah, me ALONE. I got some fresh mammoth meat back there, and it can be cooked, over THE fire!! Have ya ever had "hot meat" before? (Winks) Hop in fire eyes and let's get rollin.
 
  • #97
Hi, babes, can I show you my cave paintings?
 

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