AFTER the hearing - who do you find more credible?

[Hope4More]

CNN: Flake, Collins, and Murkowski determined to act as a trio, a team. All 3 contacted WH in past hours to demand complete FBI investigation.

Sounds good. But often that which the current regime up & down the Hill says SOUNDS good but turns out sounding good, not actually being good, was always the goal. Love affair with Kim does not equal denuclearization, for example.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I don't believe he lied.

The letter of the law probably disagrees with you, especially regarding him being a SCOTUS candidate sworn under oath. Now, whether the politicians agree with you or not might be a different story.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Oh, snap!

Apologies if this has already been posted and I missed it.

bbm

Brett Kavanaugh’s Fox News Interview Is Now Testimony Under Oath – Rolling Stone

Most consequential: that Fox News interview that Kavanaugh conducted with Martha MacCallum has been entered into evidence as testimony by Kavanaugh — under “penalty of felony,” as the judge might put it. This means that the credibility-straining claims Kavanaugh made on the network could now place him in legal jeopardy.

In the Judiciary Committee transcript, the Fox News interview is placed retroactively under oath. A staffer, whose name is redacted, asks Kavanaugh: “Everything that you said on that interview, do you — do you affirm that today? Do you adopt that as your testimony today?” Kavanaugh replies, “Yes.” The SCOTUS nominee also responds in the affirmative when the questioner asks if Kavanaugh understands that entering his answers to Fox News as testimony means that he is “subject to felony prosecution if you’re lying.”
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ETA:

Reviewing the Fox News transcript, Kavanaugh has now placed the following claims under oath:
...

His drinking habit:

MacCallum: “Was there ever a time that you drank so much that you couldn’t remember what happened the night before?”

Kavanaugh: “No, that never happened.”

MacCallum: “You never said to anyone, ‘I don’t remember anything about last night.’”

Kavanaugh: “No, that did not happen.”

(Much more at link!)

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AND THEN:

Documents released by Judiciary Committee member Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) also cast doubt on Kavanaugh’s truthfulness about drinking and memory. Emails from Kavanaugh’s time in the George W. Bush White House record his participation in a 2001 boy’s weekend on a boat rented from Annapolis, Maryland.

In an email to his friends from his White House account upon returning to work, Kavanaugh thanks his ship-mates for a great adventure but confesses he does not remember everything that happened, while apologizing for his belligerence: “Excellent time,” Kavanaugh writes in a message dated September 10th, 2001. “Apologies to all for missing Friday (good excuse), arriving late Saturday (weak excuse), and growing aggressive after blowing still another game of dice (don’t recall).”​

 

[simba16]

MSNBC Bombshell--BK texted friends in last month to deny the Ramirez story. Also it appears he knew about story before it broke. "Brett's team is asking me to do this, " said the woman who released the texts to MSNBC

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Check out George Bush Jr. 's academic qualifications for admission. He would never have been admitted to ANY Ivy without Legacy (and $$$$$$ donated).


In the real world what can make the difference between 2 perfectly stellar & perfectly perfect candidates for Ivy admission (most are just that), is:

1. Huge donations by
parents or a well connected rich "sponsor," prior to admission, and it has to be HUGE.

2. The get-him-in "request" by a wealthy, connected "sponsor" the Ivy doesn't want to alienate.

3. Legacy.

Wasn't BK in the top of his class?

Sounds like he worked hard to achieve that.

So no one gets in because of good grades and high entry scoring?

So you think these are the only way Obama got into a prestigious college too?

 

[simba16]

Yes, he wants to be the next Attorney General -- that's a whole 'nother nightmare. Will this ever end? Yes, but it will take a couple more years. I just wonder what kind of shape we'll be in two years from now. It truly scares me.

I'll feel better when Dems take the House. Currently Republican House wants only to investigate...... Hillary's emails.

 

[borndem]

Sounds good. But often that which the current regime up & down the Hill says SOUNDS good but turns out sounding good, not actually being good, was always the goal. Love affair with Kim does not equal denuclearization, for example.

I just had to laff at that one!! Still laffing! Thanks, I need the chuckles!

 

[simba16]

Julie Swetnick to speak out now on MSNBC with Ari Melber.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Wasn't BK in the top of his class?

Sounds like he worked hard to achieve that.

So no one gets in because of good grades and high entry scoring?

So you think these are the only way Obama got into a prestigious college too?

They all had help, imo.

 

[Boodles]

Julie Swetnick to speak out now on MSNBC with Ari Melber.

Did she speak? What’d she say?

ETA: the interview hasn’t aired yet, will be during this show (before 7pmET)

 

[Mica]

I don't see where Mitchell report encourages this bizarre theory. Are you with the Q-Anon group?

Nope. Don’t even know what that group is.

Are you with one of the open society progressive groups? Ya know, one like Katz chairs.

 

[Boodles]

Tricia opened up new Supreme Court Nomnee #3 thread here:

Supreme Court Nominee #3

 

[simba16]

NBC: BK swore under oath that he hadn't heard of Ramirez allegations until the New Yorker story but text messages indicate he had. Smoking gun?

 

[borndem]

BK's friend, Chad Ludlington wants to speak to the FBI about good ol' Brett. He is a history professor here in Raleigh, NC, at North Carolina State University, my alma mater. It was mentioned on MSM that the FBI may go to Raleigh to interview Ludlington. We'll see. I hope I can grab some scoop if it happens.
Now a left turn...

These are the first few lines from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's poem. It was quoted by FDR to Churchill when Churchill and Great Britain were fighting nazi Germany. Churchill used it many times in his speeches to the people of Britain throughout WWII. These are only the first lines.
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O Ship of State

Thou, too, sail on, O Ship of State!
Sail on, O Union, strong and great!
Humanity with all its fears,
With all the hopes of future years,
Is hanging breathless on thy fate!
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These words, IMO, are appropriate during these days.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

The news on this issue is so incredibly inconsistent and slanted from MSNBC, CNN, and Fox news. Is any news station actually impartial any longer?

Listening to y'all, the answer's no.

How much news do you actually read, tho? Serious question. You'll learn a lot more doing that.

Everything else is regurgitated and fed to us baby bird-style.

IMO

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Tricia opened up new Supreme Court Nomnee #3 thread here:

Supreme Court Nominee #3

Thank you for the heads-up, @Boodles!

 

[Inthedetails]

That is not a requirement.

What does matter is he has rendered over 300 opinions in the second highest court during the 12 plus years he has been a judge in WDC.

And 16 of those opinions were so well documented that the majority opinion in the SC used his appelate opinion. That means his opinion was so well written the majority not only agreed with him but found it right on point based on the law that they used his appelate opinion ruling.. These 16 opinions most likely included liberal SC Justices.

There is no doubt he is well qualified.

That may be one of the problems the democrats have. Imo for decades they have relied on liberal SC justices when they have been unable to get through things they couldnt get enacted and passed through congress where it is suppose to happen.

What they don't want is a SC justice who is a strict constitutionalist who does not interpret the constitution how they want it to read but instead goes strictly by the constitution as it is written as it should always be done.

Jmo

Right on. I agree with you that it is not a requirement. Someone who knows the Constitution and how to apply it is what is required. Being a trial lawyer is not the only way to be an expert on the Constitution and how it applies to cases. My question is that a WS has implied that since 2003 he has tried cases and I'm wondering where to find that info because I didn't see it in the link provided without someone pointing it out to me.

But I totally agree with you....other than I still don't think this particular candidate has the character for the position.

It's heartening to know that "opposing" sides can agree on elements - this is not as polarizing of a time as people think it is. We don't have to wring our hands over the fate of our country. The process can be messy and the outcomes not always to our personal liking, but fundamentals are still there that we agree upon.

jmo

 

[Hope4More]

MSNBC Bombshell--BK texted friends in last month to deny the Ramirez story. Also it appears he knew about story before it broke. "Brett's team is asking me to do this, " said the woman who released the texts to MSNBC

Oops....

 

[Inthedetails]

Wasn't BK in the top of his class?

Sounds like he worked hard to achieve that.

So no one gets in because of good grades and high entry scoring?

So you think these are the only way Obama got into a prestigious college too?

I haven't seen anyone here claim that BK didn't work hard and wasn't worthy of Yale admittance. The conversation has been 1) whether legacy exists and is important in admissions and 2) whether BK lied about being a legacy candidate.

No one has suggested that the only way to get into private schools is through legacy.

I haven't seen anyone suggest BK didn't work hard and isn't smart. It's entirely possible, of course, to be an outstanding scholar AND a legacy applicant.

The question, imo, is did he lie about legacy under oath.

jmo

 

[Mica]

MSNBC Bombshell--BK texted friends in last month to deny the Ramirez story. Also it appears he knew about story before it broke. "Brett's team is asking me to do this, " said the woman who released the texts to MSNBC

>>snip

George Hartmann, a spokesman for Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, said that “the texts from Ms. Berchem do not appear relevant or contradictory to Judge Kavanaugh’s testimony."

"This appears to be another last-ditch effort to derail the nomination with baseless innuendo by Democrats who have already decided to vote no," Hartmann said.

Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public