Air Marshal fires weapon onboard jet MIA Airport
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The marshals pursued and ordered the passenger to get on the ground, but the man did not comply and was shot when apparently reaching into the bag, Doyle said. Authorities did not immediately say whether any bomb was found.
Passenger Mary Gardner told WTVJ in Miami that the man ran down the aisle from the rear of the plane. "He was frantic, his arms flailing in the air," she said. She said a woman followed, shouting, "My husband! My husband!"
Gardner said she heard the woman say her husband was bipolar and had not had his medication. The plane, Flight 924, had arrived from Medellin, Colombia, at 12:16 p.m. and was scheduled to depart two hours later for Orlando, American Airlines spokesman Tim Wagner said.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20051207/D8EBL5304.html
Passenger Mary Gardner told WTVJ in Miami that the man ran down the aisle from the rear of the plane. "He was frantic, his arms flailing in the air," she said. She said a woman followed, shouting, "My husband! My husband!"
Gardner said she heard the woman say her husband was bipolar and had not had his medication. The plane, Flight 924, had arrived from Medellin, Colombia, at 12:16 p.m. and was scheduled to depart two hours later for Orlando, American Airlines spokesman Tim Wagner said.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20051207/D8EBL5304.html
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Looks like the air marshall did his job and did it well. The man was claiming to have a bomb and wouldn't comply with orders. Sad that he was bi-polar but he should have taken his meds. There was no time for explanations.
Seems like the man was Bipolar.
very sad, but i can't see there could have been a second's chance for negotiations in such a situation.
poor everyone, including the air marshall. i really don't beieve those charged with such tasks want to have to kill people.
very sad, but i can't see there could have been a second's chance for negotiations in such a situation.
poor everyone, including the air marshall. i really don't beieve those charged with such tasks want to have to kill people.
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I agree, Floh. This is sad for everyone involved. It seems that the air marshall had no choice. It is not like he could wait until he actually saw a bomb, before he fired his weapon.Floh said:Seems like the man was Bipolar.
very sad, but i can't see there could have been a second's chance for negotiations in such a situation.
poor everyone, including the air marshall. i really don't beieve those charged with such tasks want to have to kill people.
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That's for sure. Scary.Linda7NJ said:
I can see a schizophrenic or a manic person person doing that, but bi-polar? I didn't think that was a symptom. I need to read up on it a little more.
Edited to add: Ahhh, excuse my ignorance! I just read the article and it says bi-polar is also known as manic depression. I did not know this. How sad
"Gardner said she heard the woman say her husband was bipolar — a mental illness also known as manic-depression — and had not had his medication."
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I definitely agree. How awful. This could've been so avoidable, perhaps, if the person would've taken his medication?Floh said:Nope.
the man's wife must be beside herself. i guess we'll know more about the sorry tale later.
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That's why his wife is there with him, I'm sorry to say. She kind of should help look out for him. She must've known he didn't take his pills. I have depression. My guy makes sure I take my pills every morning. If it weren't for him, I would be a wreck. Before him, I didn't even have enough energy to gte out of bed to take the pills myself. I don't depend on him necessarily but he helps me.Becba said:But the person is mentally ill. So they don't take their medicene always.
Anyway, back to him and her. I'm not blaming her, but that's why I wrote, with a question mark, this could've been prevented if he was taking his medication? Could it have been?
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Air Marshals Kill Erratic Passenger in Miami
MIAMI — Federal air marshals shot and killed a 44-year-old American Airlines passenger who claimed to have a bomb in his bag and ran off of the plane, a Department of Homeland Security official confirmed to FOX News.
A U.S. official confirmed to FOX News there was no bomb found on the plane.
The marshals pursued and tackled Rigoberto Alpizar, a U.S. citizen of Costa Rican origin, on the jet bridge between the terminal and the Boeing 757. It was not clear how many air marshals opened fire or how many shots were fired, but one passenger said four to five shots were heard.
More: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177996,00.html
MIAMI — Federal air marshals shot and killed a 44-year-old American Airlines passenger who claimed to have a bomb in his bag and ran off of the plane, a Department of Homeland Security official confirmed to FOX News.
A U.S. official confirmed to FOX News there was no bomb found on the plane.
The marshals pursued and tackled Rigoberto Alpizar, a U.S. citizen of Costa Rican origin, on the jet bridge between the terminal and the Boeing 757. It was not clear how many air marshals opened fire or how many shots were fired, but one passenger said four to five shots were heard.
More: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177996,00.html
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Man killed after bomb claim at airport
Official: Air marshals fired after he approached them aggressively
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- A 44-year-old U.S. citizen who claimed to have a bomb was shot and killed when air marshals opened fire on a boarding bridge at the Miami airport, several sources told CNN.
American Airlines Flight 924 was in Miami on a stopover during a flight from Medellin, Colombia, to Orlando, Florida, when the man, identified as Rigoberto Alpizar, said there was a bomb in his carry-on luggage, a Department of Homeland Security official said.
Alpizar was confronted by a team of federal air marshals, who followed him down the boarding bridge and ordered him to get on the ground, the official said. (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2005/12/07/jm.aa.gun.fire.affl','2005/12/14'); Watch the aftermath of the shooting -- 1:36)
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Alpizar was traveling with a woman and had arrived in Miami on a plane from Ecuador, federal officials said. He and the woman began arguing before getting off the plane in Miami, two officials said.
After he got off the plane in Miami and went through customs, he got on the Orlando-bound plane and said he had a bomb, Air Marshal Service spokesman Dave Adams said.
Air marshals asked him to get off the plane, which he did, but when they asked him to put his bag down, he refused, Adams said. Alpizar then approached the marshals in an aggressive manner, at which point two or three shots were fired, he said.
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more: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/07/airplane.gunshot/index.html
Official: Air marshals fired after he approached them aggressively
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- A 44-year-old U.S. citizen who claimed to have a bomb was shot and killed when air marshals opened fire on a boarding bridge at the Miami airport, several sources told CNN.
American Airlines Flight 924 was in Miami on a stopover during a flight from Medellin, Colombia, to Orlando, Florida, when the man, identified as Rigoberto Alpizar, said there was a bomb in his carry-on luggage, a Department of Homeland Security official said.
Alpizar was confronted by a team of federal air marshals, who followed him down the boarding bridge and ordered him to get on the ground, the official said. (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2005/12/07/jm.aa.gun.fire.affl','2005/12/14'); Watch the aftermath of the shooting -- 1:36)
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Alpizar was traveling with a woman and had arrived in Miami on a plane from Ecuador, federal officials said. He and the woman began arguing before getting off the plane in Miami, two officials said.
After he got off the plane in Miami and went through customs, he got on the Orlando-bound plane and said he had a bomb, Air Marshal Service spokesman Dave Adams said.
Air marshals asked him to get off the plane, which he did, but when they asked him to put his bag down, he refused, Adams said. Alpizar then approached the marshals in an aggressive manner, at which point two or three shots were fired, he said.
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more: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/07/airplane.gunshot/index.html
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Becba said:But the person is mentally ill. So they don't always take their medicene.
A person with a mood disorder is still capable of making appropriate decisions and knowing right from wrong.
His strange behavior - suggesting he had a bomb and not cooperating with police - make me think he was beyond bipolar - more into psychosis, a break with reality.
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Marthatex said:
More the reason that someone with responsibilty for him would see that he takes his meds. If there is no one accountable then they should be institutionalized. Definately not allowed to roam among people causing a hazard to innocent individuals. We can't help going on with normal life, we have to. If there is a threat to normal existence then it needs to be accounted for and I am not bashing mentally ill people. But there are limits.I am learning more about bi-polar. From slight depression to psychosis is a big jump. That only tells me his problems were very serious.
Think of the baby stabbed on a NY street corner because a schizophrenic wasn't taking their meds.The stories are innumerable. Whose rights are violated?
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Update:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051207/D8EBN0Q00.html
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The man, identified as Rigoberto Alpizar, a 44-year-old U.S. citizen, was gunned down on a jetway just before the American Airlines plane was about to leave for Orlando, near his home in Maitland.
It was the first time since the Sept. 11 attacks that an air marshal had shot at anyone, Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Doyle said.
According to a witness, the man frantically ran down the aisle of the Boeing 757, flailing his arms, while his wife tried to explain that he was mentally ill and had not taken his medication. The passenger indicated there was a bomb in his bag and was confronted by air marshals but ran off the aircraft, Doyle said. The marshals went after him and ordered him to get down on the ground, but he did not comply and was shot when he apparently reached into the bag, Doyle said.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051207/D8EBN0Q00.html
Snip:
The man, identified as Rigoberto Alpizar, a 44-year-old U.S. citizen, was gunned down on a jetway just before the American Airlines plane was about to leave for Orlando, near his home in Maitland.
It was the first time since the Sept. 11 attacks that an air marshal had shot at anyone, Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Doyle said.
According to a witness, the man frantically ran down the aisle of the Boeing 757, flailing his arms, while his wife tried to explain that he was mentally ill and had not taken his medication. The passenger indicated there was a bomb in his bag and was confronted by air marshals but ran off the aircraft, Doyle said. The marshals went after him and ordered him to get down on the ground, but he did not comply and was shot when he apparently reached into the bag, Doyle said.
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