AK AK - Anchorage, 'Eklutna Annie' WhtFem 311UFAK, 16-23, unique jewelry, Jul'80

  • #61
Bumping for this unidentified woman and wondering if she has a family that is still waiting for her to come back home.
 
  • #62
Anyone suppose this new NamUs MP might be Horseshoe Harriet, or Eklutna Annie?

Roxane Easland (and 2 recons of Eklutna Annie)
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/28953/0

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She was LKA only a month before Eklutna Annie was found, and about 4 years before Horseshoe Harriet was found.

Unless the postmortem interval for EA (about 1 year) is inaccurate, she was probably not missing long enough to be EA. But I do see a pretty good resemblance in some respects to both recons.
 
  • #63
Well... I think that Horseshoe Harriet was probably murdered in the winter based on her clothing (lots of wool, lots of layers). Roxane was last seen with a brown leather jacket, and Annie was found in a brown leather jacket. In fact, Roxane was wearing high-heeled boots when she was last seen and Annie was found in high-heeled boots; the only difference is the colour of the boots.

Also Hansen DID say she was a topless dancer or prostitute, I don't know Roxane's profession but she had an alias (Which is something dancers and prostitutes have, but doesn't necessarily mean she was either of those.)

The date last seen vs. the date found is the only problem. She had only been missing about a week when she was reported, which makes it unlikely that they had the date last seen wrong.

Roxane's DNA tests are not complete. Annie is in CODIS and Harriet's DNA tests are not complete yet. I know it's wishful thinking on my part but I'd be surprised if she isn't Annie.

Have there been any cases where the medical examiner was off on date of death by that much of a leap?
 
  • #64
Another pic from Roxanne's NamUs looks even more like Annie's NCMEC reconstruction.

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  • #65
I know that her remains reportedly made it impossible, but I dearly wish we had a composite or sketch of Horseshoe Harriet! Especially since her DNA is being processed (or has been?) This is a case I would looove to see get solved. Roxanne's body was never found. At this moment I'd say she's our best bet for Annie.
 
  • #66
Bump
I was thinking about these girls today and I read somewhere that despite being reported missing 35 years ago, Roxane was only just put into the system. That's......hm. I hope her DNA gets processed soon enough. After 35 years, I do hope, and believe, she's EA, because I think she deserves justice and her family deserves closure. HH I believe is another one of Hansen's acknowledged victims whose body was never found, since I know Roxane wasn't the only one.
 
  • #67
Well... I think that Horseshoe Harriet was probably murdered in the winter based on her clothing (lots of wool, lots of layers). Roxane was last seen with a brown leather jacket, and Annie was found in a brown leather jacket. In fact, Roxane was wearing high-heeled boots when she was last seen and Annie was found in high-heeled boots; the only difference is the colour of the boots.

Also Hansen DID say she was a topless dancer or prostitute, I don't know Roxane's profession but she had an alias (Which is something dancers and prostitutes have, but doesn't necessarily mean she was either of those.)

The date last seen vs. the date found is the only problem. She had only been missing about a week when she was reported, which makes it unlikely that they had the date last seen wrong.

Roxane's DNA tests are not complete. Annie is in CODIS and Harriet's DNA tests are not complete yet. I know it's wishful thinking on my part but I'd be surprised if she isn't Annie.

Have there been any cases where the medical examiner was off on date of death by that much of a leap?

I want to bump what I said about the date last seen and the date they found this body.

This case right here is why I'm starting to think that maybe Roxanne is even more likely than we think

This lady went missing in late September of 1978 in California, they found her body about two weeks later. Only problem was that they decided that her remains had been there for a year or two when they could not have been there for longer than two weeks.
 
  • #68
Honestly. I agree with you 100%! Roxane is definitely my best bet.

She was left in the Alaskan wilderness. They even mentioned animals had been at her body. Not to mention insects and the elements. It makes perfect sense that she'd be more decomposed than one would expect of someone so recently deceased.
 
  • #69
Anyone suppose this new NamUs MP might be Horseshoe Harriet, or Eklutna Annie?

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/28953/0

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DoeNetwork says Annie had "possible admixture of Native American" and my first impression on seeing Roxanne Easland was that she looks subtly Asian/Native. NamUs says Roxanne's "fingerprint information is available elsewhere", implying that she was perhaps put into a fingerprint database before she disappeared. Being arrested for sex work would be an obvious reason for that, another reason for the match-up potential to be good.
 
  • #70
I wonder how long it will take the tip and/or DNA testing to be processed and done so we and the family will know for sure. Roxane just fits so well. Hansen even admitted to her murder, but her body was never recovered. I wonder why they never thought to match it up before? HH I can see being Andrea Altiery, the admitted other victim of his whose body was never recovered.
Which also makes me wonder, and granted I haven't been able to find much on it, did LE ever check out the other X locations on his map? 12 bodies were recovered iirc, but there were many other spots marked off. I read somewhere that one theory is that Megan Emerick (who was excluded as EA) and Mary Thill may be buried in two of those spots.
 
  • #71
Roxane Easland's LKA date seems to be fairly consistent with Ekultna Annie's discovery. I know it is listed differently, but, as with Marilee Bruzser's case, the skeletal remains can be dated wrong. So much fits.
 
  • #72
I still have a gut feeling that Roxane is Annie after all, despite the location and PM estimations. Hansen did take his victims to other locations from where they were taken. The PM inconsistency might not be so major, since the recent identification of Marilee Bruszer (Juab County Jane Doe) shows that died no more than a month before her discovery but was thought to have died one to three years before.
 
  • #73
I like this possibly match as well!! I may be mis-understanding something in my reading as well, but if Hansen admitted to murdering EA (body found, UID), and Roxanne, but her body hasn't been found, why would EA and Roxanne be a potential match? Unless Hansen had so many victims he thought there were more? Or am I reading wrong .. someone, please shed light on this for me!!
 
  • #74
  • #75
Also I have another question if anyone gets this in the article it says she was originally thought to be Roxanne Easlund, how was that ruled out? I googled it but not much info out there. Was Roxannes body found elsewhere?

Im looking at all the names suggested to see what I think
Angela Meeker - Maybe too young, went missing when she was 13, does match up in that it was exactly a year since she went missing to when the body was found, but still maybe too young at the age guess was 16 - 25

Megan Emerick - Went missing 7 years before the body was found. Fits in the age though as she would have been about 22. From Alaska.
But also her disappearance seems like she was kidnapped and probably killed soon after. Doesnt seem like she would randomly run away for
6 years previous to the year gap where the body was killed/found.

Cynthia Gastelle - Her remains have been found :)

Eileen Hynson - Age fits, 19 when missing, so 21ish when the Doe would have been killed. Right height. From California like the police thought.
The only suspicious thing I see though is she had no reason to vanish if she was on the way to a bridal party dress fitting. She would have to have run off for a couple years before being killed.

Andria Bailey. - The age is right and the time she went missing to when the body was found is right, about a year, Maybe a little tall?
From Washington. Wouldnt rule her out I guess. Closest so far.

Mary Kathleen Thill - Looks alot like the original image.
From Alaska, age would be about right, went missing maybe a couple years too early, Hansen is suspected. Probably a victim of his but maybe not this Jane Doe.

Elaine Kwiatkowski - Yeah, seems like she died in the ocean with the others.

Simone Stephanie Ridinger - Age and missing date seem to fit, possibly a year too early but close, and height matches. And also the note about wearing lots of jewellery. Story is odd, especially about the man who picked her up saying she was in the back of a car. If she was hitchiking around she could have made her way eventually to Alaska, not impossible. Definite possibly.

Elaine Robertson - Dates fit right. Went missing a year before the remains were found. Age is right. But i think definitely too tall. And the details of her disappearance seem to not fit.

Kerry Graham - initial thought was wow, so many similarities! The jewellery, the height, the age, the time she went missing, maybe a bit late as the body was about a year old, red hair, seemed to be a bit of a runaway and the type to start working as a dancer, California,
Says she went missing with a friend 'Francine Marie Trimble' Couldnt find anything on her through google?
I think this one is the best yet. Has anyone sent her info in or heard anything?

Mary Frances Gregory - Seems too far out of the way, more likely is the guy she was travelling with killed her I think. Though height, age and time seem right nothing much else seems to fit
Also seems odd her family believe she suffered memory loss after her disappearance? how on earth would they know that.


So in conclusion my top guesses are definitely Kerry Graham and Andria Bailey and then also possibly throw Simone Ridinger in there

Still listed as missing.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/easland_roxane.html
 
  • #76
Anyone suppose this new NamUs MP might be Horseshoe Harriet, or Eklutna Annie?

Roxane Easland (and 2 recons of Eklutna Annie)
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/28953/0

75d4b74e-7add-48fb-a2b9-4f37218dc614.jpg
311UFAK.jpg
NCMU1184520c1.jpg


She was LKA only a month before Eklutna Annie was found, and about 4 years before Horseshoe Harriet was found.

Unless the postmortem interval for EA (about 1 year) is inaccurate, she was probably not missing long enough to be EA. But I do see a pretty good resemblance in some respects to both recons.

Carl, I didn't find any mention of any jewelry on the Charley page for Roxanne.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/easland_roxane.html

But here it does mention a few pieces.
http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184520/1#poster

That's throwing me off.
 
  • #77
I wonder how long it will take the tip and/or DNA testing to be processed and done so we and the family will know for sure. Roxane just fits so well. Hansen even admitted to her murder, but her body was never recovered. I wonder why they never thought to match it up before? HH I can see being Andrea Altiery, the admitted other victim of his whose body was never recovered.
Which also makes me wonder, and granted I haven't been able to find much on it, did LE ever check out the other X locations on his map? 12 bodies were recovered iirc, but there were many other spots marked off. I read somewhere that one theory is that Megan Emerick (who was excluded as EA) and Mary Thill may be buried in two of those spots.

I agree, but the jewelry is throwing me off. But it may not mean a thing. Everything else fits.
 
  • #78
Here's the rule outs.


First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Teresa Davis 1955 Washington
Megan Emerick 1956 Alaska
Megan Emerick 1956 Alaska
Karen Evan 1962 Alaska
 
  • #79
So I was re-reading some of these missing ladies and re-reading the UIDs information and I found something interesting.

from the UID:
" a white shell ring with brown inset ring, and a ladies chain-linked wrist watch with gold plate and brown face "

And from Kerry Graham's Charley:
"rings on every finger, multiple bracelets, and a watch with a chain bracelet."

I have no idea how she would have got from California to Alaska, though. Her missing friend and her had people in New Jersey and Nova Scotia, but neither of those is particularly close to Alaska.
 
  • #80
I remember reading somewhere that Annie's body could have been at that location for up to one year, but I cannot find where I saw that. So it's possible that Roxane Easland could be Annie with that theory.

Not trying to be graphic, but I know where I live (which isn't a lot warmer than Alaska) if an animal dies in the summertime between the heat, the bugs, and the scavengers it can be skeletal in a few days. If June/July 1980 was warmer than usual, I imagine anything is possible.
 

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