AK AK - Anchorage, WhtMale 439UMAK, 25-40, naked, fell from flagpole, 23 August 1989 *NamUs #UP14060*

[Zuzettem]

I was going through Facebook and someone found Daniel Scott Tullar:

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Date of Last Contact: March 3, 1989
Missing From: Kodiak, Alaska
Missing Age: 26 Years
Height: 6' 0" (72 Inches)
Weight: 195 lbs
Race / Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Hair Color: Blond/Strawberry
Eye Color: Blue
Circumstances of Disappearance: Daniel is presumed to be deceased from a boating accident near Portage Bay near Shelikof Strait from fishing vessel Ocean Hope II. Also missing is Dennis Frye, Michael Wheeler and Jack White.

 

[Susikatze]

I was going through Facebook and someone found Daniel Scott Tullar:
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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Date of Last Contact: March 3, 1989
Missing From: Kodiak, Alaska
Missing Age: 26 Years
Height: 6' 0" (72 Inches)
Weight: 195 lbs
Race / Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Hair Color: Blond/Strawberry
Eye Color: Blue
Circumstances of Disappearance: Daniel is presumed to be deceased from a boating accident near Portage Bay near Shelikof Strait from fishing vessel Ocean Hope II. Also missing is Dennis Frye, Michael Wheeler and Jack White.

Good call but i think it is quite clear he drowned in a boat accident with the rest of the crew

 

[CooperDyl]

Unfortunately it seems LE in Alaska are hesitant to work with @othram (or just haven’t considered it). There are only two cases from Alaska on the DNASOLVES site.

I don’t think Flagpole Doe is likely to get his name back without the use of genetic genealogy, so hoping somewhere down the line it is considered.

 

[Melt71]

Unfortunately it seems LE in Alaska are hesitant to work with @othram (or just haven’t considered it). There are only two cases from Alaska on the DNASOLVES site.

I don’t think Flagpole Doe is likely to get his name back without the use of genetic genealogy, so hoping somewhere down the line it is considered.

The good news is both the other cases were also in Anchorage so will be the same police department, will they not? Maybe it's a resources issue - testing is expensive.

 

[CooperDyl]

The good news is both the other cases were also in Anchorage so will be the same police department, will they not? Maybe it's a resources issue - testing is expensive.

It certainly can be expensive. Would be happy to contribute towards the testing if they worked with Othram and got a funding link up as many DNASolves cases tend to have.

 

[othram]

It certainly can be expensive. Would be happy to contribute towards the testing if they worked with Othram and got a funding link up as many DNASolves cases tend to have.

Yes, we are always happy to help raise funding for cases!

 

[CooperDyl]

I have found an email listed as the ‘cold case’ contact for Anchorage PD, and have sent a brief email to note Othram’s potential interest to help as well as the willingness of some of this forum to help fundraise should work on the case get underway.

Will update if I receive a reply…

 

[kforbes862]

Has Ralph Alan Newcombe been suggested for this uid before? He fits the description. Missing from Seattle, but his truck was found parked at the Alaska ferry terminal.

 

[kforbes862]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[kforbes862]

Never mind, I see that he has been ruled out twice as being the uid.

 

[CooperDyl]

Received a reply to say they will take a closer look when time permits, and a quick thank you note about the willingness to help.

 

[kforbes862]

That is encouraging. I never got a response from them at all about a year ago when I made an inquiry about the case

 

[tricia]

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[Nate_Bro]

Has Edmond Belliveau or Dale Sinclair been considered?

 

[CooperDyl]

Has Edmond Belliveau or Dale Sinclair been considered?

Not as far as I can see!

 

[Tiger_Lilly]

I have received confirmation from Doe Network that Edmond Belliveau has been ruled out by fingerprints.

Edmond Bellivue has been ruled out by fingerprints.

With all due respect and maybe because I'm not American but how the chuff do you climb a flagpole? When we were kids we used to try and climb lampposts but we never got more than 3 or 4 ft off the ground.

I had never heard of this man before today. Another soul to add to my prayer list

 

[Tiger_Lilly]

4942DMCA - William Robert Prescott​

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Name: William Robert Prescott
Nickname/Alias: Unknown
Case Classification: Endangered Missing
Missing Since: February 5, 1980
Location Last Seen: Half Moon Bay, San Mateo County, California

Physical Description​

Date of Birth: March 23, 1953
Age: 23 years old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 185 lbs.
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Green
Distinguishing Marks/Features: He has a scar on his stomach.

Identifiers​

Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Light blue pants, plaid shirt, T-shirt with image of a salmon.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: New reddish brown Red Wing boots.

Circumstances of Disappearance​

Prescott was last seen February 5, 1980, driving a white 1964, International Harvester pickup truck with two California license plates: 121YVV (housecar) & 37376A (commercial).

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 831-471-1121
Agency E-mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: 801076
NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 1437

Has anyone suggested William Prescott? His age, height, weight, hair colour all match it says William's eyes are green whereas Doe's eyes are blue or hazel, I'm not sure if that automatically discounts him but my mum has hazel eyes that some people think are brown or green. William disappeared 9 years before our Doe went to that McDonald's but he could have worked on boats during that time or developed mental health issues. I'd be interested to know what way our Doe was facing when he fell. Just a theory

 

[CooperDyl]

4942DMCA - William Robert Prescott​

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Name: William Robert Prescott
Nickname/Alias: Unknown
Case Classification: Endangered Missing
Missing Since: February 5, 1980
Location Last Seen: Half Moon Bay, San Mateo County, California

Physical Description​

Date of Birth: March 23, 1953
Age: 23 years old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 185 lbs.
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Green
Distinguishing Marks/Features: He has a scar on his stomach.

Identifiers​

Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Light blue pants, plaid shirt, T-shirt with image of a salmon.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: New reddish brown Red Wing boots.

Circumstances of Disappearance​

Prescott was last seen February 5, 1980, driving a white 1964, International Harvester pickup truck with two California license plates: 121YVV (housecar) & 37376A (commercial).

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 831-471-1121
Agency E-mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: 801076
NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 1437

Has anyone suggested William Prescott? His age, height, weight, hair colour all match it says William's eyes are green whereas Doe's eyes are blue or hazel, I'm not sure if that automatically discounts him but my mum has hazel eyes that some people think are brown or green. William disappeared 9 years before our Doe went to that McDonald's but he could have worked on boats during that time or developed mental health issues. I'd be interested to know what way our Doe was facing when he fell. Just a theory

No comparison has been made that I can see.

Flagpole Doe is listed as having ‘no scars noted’ vs 4942DMCA with ‘scar on stomach’, but it could of course be that the medical examiner didn’t think the scar worth mentioning. Although it seems 4942DMCA is missing with a vehicle, which always makes me think they’re in water somewhere.

Both have dentals, DNA and fingerprints available, so should be easy enough to compare.

 

[Tiger_Lilly]

No comparison has been made that I can see.

Flagpole Doe is listed as having ‘no scars noted’ vs 4942DMCA with ‘scar on stomach’, but it could of course be that the medical examiner didn’t think the scar worth mentioning. Although it seems 4942DMCA is missing with a vehicle, which always makes me think they’re in water somewhere.

Both have dentals, DNA and fingerprints available, so should be easy enough to compare.

I've never done this before. Who would I notify? What do I say? I know it's a long shot but after 40 years and 36 years respectively anything is worth a shot is it not?

 

[CooperDyl]

I've never done this before. Who would I notify? What do I say? I know it's a long shot but after 40 years and 36 years respectively anything is worth a shot is it not?

It looks like that info was from Doe Network, if you head back to their website the have a menu option to ‘submit a match’, and you just follow the prompts from there. I’ve only done it a couple of times myself (including for this doe!) but they’re normally pretty good with getting in touch to let you know if they’re progressing the potential match or not. That way Doe Network takes care of coordinating efforts and speaking to LE.
Alternately you could contact LE directly.