AK, NY Israel Keyes - Who are all of his victims???

[~n/t~]

If the POI in Jennifer's case is 5'3 - 5'5 then there is no way the person in the still shot is Keyes standing at 6'2, imo

 

[~n/t~]

Here is the story about her picture appearing on various websites

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292615,00.html

Kara Nichols photos are appearing on escorts websites in Vegas. Perhaps the perp in Jennifer's case is connected to Kara's disappearance?

Was Keyes known to post photos of his victims on the web?

 

[digndoodle]

Kara Nichols photos are appearing on escorts websites in Vegas. Perhaps the perp in Jennifer's case is connected to Kara's disappearance?

Was Keyes known to post photos of his victims on the web?
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I do not know if he posted on the web.., but they have told that he spent a lot of time on his computer following his victims...he got a rush also from following the media that followed the story's...and it would have been a way to upset the parents and mislead authorities also
The lady in Las Vegas.........I had not read this before....but Keyes traveled to Vegas a lot, and last known visit was the day after he kidnapped and murdered Samatha Koenig....and I believe that is where he met the girlfriend he lived with in Alaska....She has a facebook profile back at the time I think they may have met and has pictures of Alaska posted and said SOON TO BE BACK HOME.....so he could have been this ladies POI also

 

[digndoodle]

If the POI in Jennifer's case is 5'3 - 5'5 then there is no way the person in the still shot is Keyes standing at 6'2, imo
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Please explain how they could possibly tell how tall this person POI is walking by the gate???.....I saw no possible way to give an exact measurement...I mean it would really have to be someway I have never heard of in my 59 yrs of life.........I'm not saying there is no way but have wondered how in the world they could possibly tell how tall

I had only read that Keyes is between 5'7 up to 6 foot tall

 

[saba]

If the POI in Jennifer's case is 5'3 - 5'5 then there is no way the person in the still shot is Keyes standing at 6'2, imo
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Please explain how they could possibly tell how tall this person POI is walking by the gate???.....I saw no possible way to give an exact measurement...I mean it would really have to be someway I have never heard of in my 59 yrs of life.........I'm not saying there is no way but have wondered how in the world they could possibly tell how tall

I had only read that Keyes is between 5'7 up to 6 foot tall

They knew the exact height of the gate, the exact position of the security camera and the exact position of the POI. Very easy to recreate. In most photos it's tough because there isn't a set reference point that can be measured. Here, LE got lucky because they had a measurable object to compare to the POI as well as a known location and angle of the camera.

 

[digndoodle]

They knew the exact height of the gate, the exact position of the security camera and the exact position of the POI. Very easy to recreate. In most photos it's tough because there isn't a set reference point that can be measured. Here, LE got lucky because they had a measurable object to compare to the POI as well as a known location and angle of the camera.

I will accept this saba.....if they have confirmed the person's height 100%...I'm sure they have ways to do that in our generation.....but as I've said earlier...IN MY HEART I cannot accept this.....The feeling...the way down gut feeling I got over all this...somehow...someway....I feel 199% it is still I. Keyes walking by that fence...LE also made out that the POI got out of the car, wiped his hands and inside the car....they think the POI is wearing gloves??? I. Keyes ALWAYS wears gloves....seen in both bank robberies...same gloves....also he has been known to wear surgical-type gloves...whether he has his hair tied up or whether it is a time (after he got out of the military his hair was very very short) his hair was short....just too much alike....The Military Gait walk, Military style this POI is holding his chest...no eye movement also know to be a military stare....and as far as the cap, hat.....as I said I have followed and read on Israel Keyes from day 1 when they released the photo to the public....I have seen him with a bandana wrapped around his head...a straw hat.....a white helmet type hat used in construction work, a hoodie with the cap part over his head...and also in one case they are now looking at...He was known to speak with a very peculiar accent..I believe it was Romanian to the 2 men they believe are his victims also and he walked with a limp and used a cane?????....but others that came in contact with him during this time described him as NOT having a limp, nor using a cane....Remember he idolized Bundy...Bundy was known for using things like this to lure his victims also....and I'm sure Keyes had a lot of accents, hats, caps and etc.....to me the clothing may have been a disguise also.....he wanted to go UNDER THE RADAR as he quoted to APD.....so far he is known to have worn flashy-tropical shirts, t'shirts, what I term regular clothing and sometimes a dark shirt with kakhi type pants.....You just got to get inside thinking of all his known thinking I guess..but I feel he was one master of disguise, he was in some ways a very smart person...he took sometimes 2 years to plan his victims...that alone tells me he was very different from typical serial killers.....just my thought...lol

 

[Wondergirl]

From some research and videos:

-POI had white socks on with black dress shoes

-Kesse's car was driven 1 mile, and left in a known drug area.

-Left with valuables in full view.

-Perp sat in car for 30 seconds before exiting

-Kesse's briefcase and purse were only things missing (*purse later recovered???)

-BF ruled out by FBI poly's and parents

-A fingerprint was found in her car. Couldn't IK's DNA be ruled in or out if this is true?


Video with her parents:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomIl8Hyy64"]Jennifer Kesse - 12/24/08 Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Wondergirl]

We need video of IK walking.

Was IK known to wear white socks with dark shoes? (Quite a taboo, really)

 

[Wondergirl]

DNA and latent print found indicates that the POI has never been in CODIS, never been arrested.

Pat Brown analysis also:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6nXgUEE73M"]Jennifer Kesse 12/24/08 Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[digndoodle]

At the time Jennifer went missing I. Keyes DNA would surely have not been entered, but after he killed himself, APD released a statement that they were going to follow through with leads and investigations...and stated his DNA was now in the system.........This is a case a gentlemen turned in on the facebook page.....Cellphone was taken and put where homeless were known in this area....I think he was thinking some of them would use the phone and that way LE would arrest them...not him.....so YES.....his DNA could now be analyzed in any known person missing to connect them to I. Keyes

CASE:Would have been one of his Earlier Workings..NOTE...........This is the one where with the victims he talked with an accent...used a limp and a cane!!!

http://panachereport.com/channels/more short stories/PracticeKill.htm

 

[CanManEh]

Not trying to be rude here but thats a rediculious comparrison,Short skinny white dude with a odd looking hat that's every fifth person i walk by on any given day anyways the reason i clicked on here was because today i seen a 6 minute long video on YT of this Low Life during part of his confession .He wants to be knowen as a SK clone of Ted Bundy ..Just thought someone might be interested in listening to this loser..

 

[digndoodle]

J.M.H.O....I disagree......as I said I have followed his story and photo plus did a lot of researching and reading on this case....if you have only seen a 6 minute video that sure would not qualify to give this opinion....Yes he idolized Bundy..he told APD he did but wanted and stated very hateful that he did not pattern his murders after Bundy nor any other Serial Killer.........at last count they think just as of this date he has 11 victims and they are working and going to follow his case forward...they stated it could take several years, but they plan on taking to the limit is my terms......Have you read any of his story??? followed it in anyway???......I think you would change your mind...he violently kidnapped, raped and then murdered the 3 they know 100% he killed...He was a very different type of serial killer...hiding his stashes as he called them all over the USA....and that included a murder weapon...usually drano....items to secure his victims....and items to dispose of the bodies.........He planned the murder of the couple 2 years...He went there in 2009.....stayed a few days...buried his stash in a wooded area kinda near the exit ramp of the interstate...then in 2011...went back and picked a house with no car in the driveway...he wanted a house with no dogs...must have a garage....I feel he was one of the most organized serial killers that will be known in our lifetime

 

[digndoodle]

Also need to add...It is not a ridicilous comparison....They had an expert come in and study this POI in Jennifer's case.....Military Gait in walking......the way this POI holds his chest...known as a military stance....and somehow they caught his eyes...Looking forward...never moving side to side looking at anyone...Also known as Military line file...funny looking hat???.....I have now seen pictures of Keyes with a bandana around his head...straw hat....white helmet he wore to rob a bank in New York.....and hoodies are well known to be over his head..........He was a master of disguise.....also seen in pictures with various type clothing on...but a carpenter all his life...until in 2007 he established Keyes Construction in Anchorage.....one man operation...known in Anchorage as a very good and meticilous worker...he prided himself in this work..People thought highly of him and his work....Why would this be a ridicilous comparison.....Construction work was plenty at Jennifer's complex at the time she went missing....Workers were allowed to stay in the many empty condo's at night...at the time she went missing there was access to a back entrance into her complex because the right fencing had not blocked it or been put up at this time....Her car drove only 1 mile....Keyes is known to kidnap and ALWAYS in the victims cars...He took the curriers from their bed, made them get in their own car...drive a short distance to an old abandoned house or barn type building...he had staked this out for several days....he then beat the male with a shovel, and because he kept calling for his wife...shot him dead....then upstairs he raped the wife, took her downstairs and shot her to death also...So why may I ask is this to you a ridicilous comparison when you take the works known to be how keyes operates??? and if you pull up KEYES in Florida...MANY MANY Keyes....businesses and his cousins are known to live there...it's just the timeline released by FBI has not linked him there...but there was a 2 month and 21 day not accounted for in 2006.......Where was Keyes during these 2 months and 21 days????

 

[digndoodle]

~n/t~--------One of his childhood friends was released in 2008. Wonder where this guy is now?

I searched this 2 days ago....Cheyne Kehoe was known and arrested in Daytona Beach Florida in 2010 on smaller charge................also is known I believe his son to be in another part of Florida.....The Kehoe family lived in Florida and I believe the Kehoe brothers were born there, but the Father later moved them to North Carolina...then onto Colville Washington....

 

[~n/t~]

Please explain how they could possibly tell how tall this person POI is walking by the gate???.....I saw no possible way to give an exact measurement...I mean it would really have to be someway I have never heard of in my 59 yrs of life.........I'm not saying there is no way but have wondered how in the world they could possibly tell how tall

I had only read that Keyes is between 5'7 up to 6 foot tall

saba posted a link to the court documents indicating he was 6'2. Also if you look at photos of Keyes getting arrested, he is significantly taller than the sherriffs so I would assume he was at least over 6', imo

Honestly, I don't think he was connected to Jennifer's disappearance. I really admire your passion and research and for bringing Jennifer's case back to the forefront. We can look at possible other connections to her case including the one I posted earlier of Kara Nichols. Some perp out there is getting thrills by posting photos of their victims on websites. Another case is Katelyn Markham. Her photo was not posted on a website but right before her disappearance, her boyfriend got a picture of her. It was a picture of a picture. It is believed the perp got a thrill by sending it to her bf and it wasn't Katelyn who sent it.

Another serial killer?

 

[~n/t~]

I do not know if he posted on the web.., but they have told that he spent a lot of time on his computer following his victims...he got a rush also from following the media that followed the story's...and it would have been a way to upset the parents and mislead authorities also
The lady in Las Vegas.........I had not read this before....but Keyes traveled to Vegas a lot, and last known visit was the day after he kidnapped and murdered Samatha Koenig....and I believe that is where he met the girlfriend he lived with in Alaska....She has a facebook profile back at the time I think they may have met and has pictures of Alaska posted and said SOON TO BE BACK HOME.....so he could have been this ladies POI also

Kara Nichols disappeared in November. Keyes was in prison.

 

[~n/t~]

Well geez, I just went through some of the older articles on James Hataway possible connection to Jennifer's disappearance and found this:

James Hataway, 28, who is the focus of investigators in two disappearances and possibly four assaults, is 5 feet 10 inches tall and police say he could be the man who was captured by a surveillance camera walking away from Jennifer Kesse's car three and a half years ago.

The suspect seen on this surveillance video was estimated to be inches shorter, but that's not stopping Orlando Police Department's full-time Kesse detective from investigating a possible connection.

"I would say there's some leeway there 5'5 to 5'11. We're not going to be held to these measurements. Our person could be taller than 5'5," said Orlando Detective Joel Wright.

Nevertheless I still believe Hataway is more probable than Keyes.

Jennifer used to go to the Tap Room in Metro West, where police believe Ocasio was last seen alive with Hataway.

"That is Jennifer's old neighborhood. She lived next door to the Tap Room there," said Drew Kesse.

"She worked in Ocoee for four years," said Joyce Kesse.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/detectives-find-possible-link-to-jennifer-kesse-ca/nFBYp/

 

[digndoodle]

~n/t~....I am an old Southern lady that is more stubborn than an ole' mule plowing a field...LOL....I have read all about James Hataway.....I knew he was a POI...and have also read about the workplace theory....and I've read about the man that was very jealous of Jennifer....but all I know to say to anyone about my search and conclusion....It's just something you can't possibly explain....that inner gut feeling...they say in psychology..."You know what you need to know, and you already know you know it"...which means if we are struggling with a problem...we know way down deep within us we already have the answer we need, but sometimes we don't want to see it....As I have stated...Unless FBI or LE comes forth and has proof otherwise....I mean strict proof and truth...I will draw my last breath on this earth believing in my heart that Israel Keyes was Jennifer's Abductor.......It's just the way it came to me....WHY would I have struggled with this 2 nights and days...over and over...YOU KNOW THIS PERSON...YOU HAVE SEEN THIS PERSON.....I cried, I walked the floors....it haunted me so bad...I knew definitely I had never saw this person...didn't know him in any way....but that 2nd early morning....I suddenly remembered the POI walking by Jennifer's fence?????? and then I even questioned myself...WHY in the world would you remember a case that is now 7 years old????......I wrestled with all my being to get this out of my head....but there was not anyway I could get it out......and I've now spent months reading and searching on every possible search engine I knew of and even had help finding others I had never heard off...... I would never disagree with a person with known proven facts...but the camera I disagree with and them forming a given height.....I say NO WAY...they would have to know how far this person was from the fence...does that add or take away from the height??? and known position???.....doubt it very strong...they didn't even know there was a camera for days after she went missing...I say PURE LUCK on that one...and I know it is stated in some reports this POI was walking fastly....I just feel there is absolutely NO WAY anyone could give a 100% definite height...and about him being taller than the sheriff and etc....Maybe so..but who knows how tall this sheriff was??? and the others around him.....I know one of them was bending over in this picture when they pulled him over in Texas...maybe this sheriff was very short....ha ha ha...see I have my own funny side too...lol......

Did you see above where I answered your question on the friend that was released in 2008 from Prison???.....Known and arrested in Daytona Beach Florida

Also just as I logged off tonight...the FB page on the Lost and Missing posted VANISHED it was on my wall...2nd down from the top....so apparently LE has some reason or is wanting more people's feedback.......I'm not the only one that thinks I. Keyes is connected to 2 cases...One man on that Video had posted this

by cmon_people11 December 20, 2012 2:06 PM EST
I just said that I watched this twice and the video reminds me of Israel Keyes. His m.o. was to lure women out, especially pretty women. He had a similar build, and hair color.He did not have an imposing presence and I think this is why women maybe did not feel threatened by him. They have to look at him. He was all over the country. Saddened every time I see this. Bless the families.

 

[~n/t~]

The anniversary of her disappearance was on Thursday. 7 years. Maybe it came to you because her case made the news again. I don`t know.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/jennifer-kesse-missing_n_2536613.html#slide=2019110

I`m not discounting your gut instinct. You could very well be right but we need more proof and I don`t know how to go about doing so with the little we have. A blurred surveillance photo that shows what appears to be a male dressed in white coveralls with some sort of head gear.

On the video, an unknown person can be seen parking the car and waiting approximately 30 seconds before exiting the vehicle and walking away without looking back. Despite intense media coverage of the video, the gender and identity of the driver remain a mystery.

"We cannot find that person," Drew Kesse told HuffPost. "We don't have any answers and we are no closer than we were that day. We have had over 1,400 leads. None of them leading to a point where any law enforcement agency can tell us to this day right, left, up or down. She vanished from her door and they just don't know."

Surveillance video at the link

 

[digndoodle]

Have they come forth in a more recent article stating that Hataway is the known POI??...the above link was back in 2009....I have questions...Why would Hataway know where Jennifer moved too??.....Why would he have abducted Jennifer...he was known to offer a ride home...I don't feel Jennifer would have EVER accepted a ride from anyone..her family said she was very safety minded, carried pepper spray and etc....How would he have known what condo was Jennifer's??....I have a lot of questions as to WHY they consider Hataway a possible POI......seems from the article posted he was too busy assaulting other women and offering rides home from this bar...I believe it was 8 he was suspected as of 2009....I just cannot believe Jennifer would have ever even thought about this guy personally...just my opinion...and we know she was not taken by force according to OPD...and WHY has he not been arrested on these women??.....If they suspected him at all, he should be in jail for a long long time....I'm sure he would confess once behind bars like Keyes did.............I guess we will wait and see for sure......Thanks for everyone's input to what I have posted