AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 1 Feb 2012 - #3

[bdawk20]

Thank you for correcting me. she said " NOT CLOSED UP. Someone just basically left their shift."


I personally am taking this at face value, she did her shift duties (cleaned the pots, stocked the cups and condiments etc. but did not close the shop... (I think because she knew she was going to hang out and drink that cup of coffee with someone she had to talk to/someone she trusted/someone she had business with----)

You know, this makes me think again about when DT said he arrived to get her "minutes after the abduction". Does he know that based on the time LE says the video shows her leaving? I keep going back to how convenient it is that he was late picking her up....but minutes after the abduction couldn't have been THAT late, right? I thought LE said it happened right at closing. I wonder did he notify her he'd be late?

 

[joslmaman]

I just went and tried on my deadbolt. To unlock my quickset deadbolt lock, if the door is UNLOCKED, I cannot "unlock"it again...the key doesn't turn that way.

just at my house. I have never been to AK, and I have no idea the manufacturer of that lock.

For what it's worth, the last place I worked someone locked the handle but did not lock the deadbolt. Since the alarm was set no one knew the deadbolt hadn't been locked until the am when I went to open it. The deadbolt definitely felt different because it didn't require any pressure to turn the lock..if that makes any sense. Just another perspective.

 

[bdawk20]

I guess it's because LE hasn't ever officially said themselves that Sam's belongings WERE left behind, but I'd say in the majority of missing person's cases they release info on who the last known person the missing spoke to from phone records. We know she spoke to her dad 90 minutes prior to closing, IIRC, because that was reported in the press, but other than that we've never heard.

Another thought, Joe Friday said it looks like the doors or locks were changed. I wonder if her keys were left behind or if they were on her? If left behind, it answers the question about the deadbolt. No key, can't lock the deadbolt from outside. If her keys were gone, the perp then has keys probably to Common Grounds (hence a lock change), to her house, her vehicle, etc. assuming she kept all her keys together.

 

[CincinnatiKate]

Lets give Duane the benefit of the doubt--"minutes" equal 2 through 59.

So--he arrives at 8:59 and has zero contact with her overnight---

Dad has zero contact with her overnight (I am assuming she sleeps at his house...she is or is not in school?)

and its the coffee hut who notifies authorities about the money missing and the suspicious activity on the tape.


Is this accurate???




The Common Grounds
Operating Hours
Weekdays: 5:30am to 8:00pm
Saturday: 6:00am to 8:00pm Sunday: 7:30am - 8:00pm

 

[ryanemsmom]

You know, this makes me think again about when DT said he arrived to get her "minutes after the abduction". Does he know that based on the time LE says the video shows her leaving? I keep going back to how convenient it is that he was late picking her up....but minutes after the abduction couldn't have been THAT late, right? I thought LE said it happened right at closing. I wonder did he notify her he'd be late?

Samantha's boyfriend Dwayne says he spoke with her just minutes before she was abducted and says "everything was fine." He was supposed to give her a ride home from work.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/05/10322846-father-of-abducted-barista18-pleads-for-her-return

So he talked to her "minutes before she was abducted", then arrived "minutes after the abduction"? And he didn't' think that was worth calling the cops?

 

[ryanemsmom]

Samantha's family is offering more than $12,500 as a reward for her return

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/05/10322846-father-of-abducted-barista18-pleads-for-her-return

Same article as above, posted February 5th. The $12,500 was put up as a reward by the family. Less than a month later JK says he is using donated funds to pay bills. It just seems off to me that you can put your hands on $12,500 cash in less than 2 days, but now can't pay your electric bill?

My Opinion Only.

 

[bdawk20]

Lets give Duane the benefit of the doubt--"minutes" equal 2 through 59.

So--he arrives at 8:59 and has zero contact with her overnight---

Dad has zero contact with her overnight (I am assuming she sleeps at his house...she is or is not in school?)

and its the coffee hut who notifies authorities about the money missing and the suspicious activity on the tape.


Is this accurate???


James said he knew someone kidnapped his daughter long before police called the case an abduction. Samantha lived with him -- she likes video games and going to the movies, he said -- and always kept in contact. It wasn't like her to just disappear without warning, and James talked to her by cellphone about an hour-and-a-half before her shift ended, he said.

When he hadn't heard from Samantha by late Wednesday, James started calling her repeatedly.

"I called her cellphone until the battery finally died, and texted it and everything," James said. "It would ring until it went to voice mail. And then, noon yesterday, it just went to voice mail, straight out.

Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/02/03/2298379/police-continue-search-for-missing.html#storylink=cpy

Yes, benefit of the doubt on the minutes...men aren't good with time LOL. "I'll be home soon" could be 2 hours at my house!

Her dad according to this article was clearly expecting her home that night, or at least to have heard from her by a certain point "late" Wednesday...

 

[CincinnatiKate]

You are supposed to drive her home, You tell her " I am on my way," and when you get there, the shop is closed up, dark and appears secure. Meanwhile someone on foot is walking west with your girlfriend of nearly a year at gunpoint. (whats "west" of the hut? a parking lot? apartments? a busy street? Are they implying they left on foot, or were just on foot until they got into a car/truck out of camera range?)

Neither man called the owners of the hut between 10pm and 6:05am to question them about anything? They just keep calling Sam's phone until it loses power?.?.?...

I have to believe it was LE who called/went to JK to tell him about Sam and the huts surveillance camera--


DId James know it was DT that was scheduled to pick her up, or was this something Sam would just organize on her own?

If she was expected to sleep at JK's that night, at what point do you call (or email, or FB) her boyfriend or best girlfriend and ask who was picking her up, and why isn't she with either of you???

 

[ryanemsmom]

MO, a morning-shift barista at the coffee stand, said there were cups of coffee left out on the counter when she arrived to open up, and Koenig's belongings were left in her cubby box. Koenig left a note asking if she needed to work Saturday, she said.

http://www.adn.com/2012/02/03/v-printer/2298379/police-continue-search-for-missing.html
She left a note??? I think that this might be the most accurate statement IMO, since it was published Friday, probably made by MO the day she was discovered missing.

 

[bdawk20]

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/05/10322846-father-of-abducted-barista18-pleads-for-her-return

So he talked to her "minutes before she was abducted", then arrived "minutes after the abduction"? And he didn't' think that was worth calling the cops?

Hmmmm. Let me go searching. Maybe he didn't say he arrived minutes after the abduction, only that he spoke to her minutes before...
Good point!

ETA I think I am wrong. He said he spoke with her minutes BEFORE the abduction. As far as after, all I can find it that he was delayed by work and by the time he got there to pick her up, she was gone.

 

[CincinnatiKate]

from US News link http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...-of-abducted-barista18-pleads-for-her-return:
snipped by me:


Samantha's boyfriend Dwayne says he spoke with her just minutes before she was abducted and says "everything was fine." He was supposed to give her a ride home from work.

"I had the only means of transportation for her and I got off work and went to go get her, and she wasn't there. It was a mess," says Dwayne.
(this statement means he was driving (iirc)the maroon short bed truck)


why does the media keep spelling his name wrong???????????
where does duane work, he must get off at 830-ish as well. Maybe she rendezvoused for that 30 or 40 minutes while waiting on DT and he caught her?

(But then I remember LE says they have no reason to suspect DT)

but WHAT WAS A MESS????? if the shop WAS closed up, he can't see the "mess" inside. if the shop was not "closed up" he would have seen the two cups of coffee----hmmmm.


I want to know if Sam made that coffee for him (like did it have a lid and was it right next to the second cup ready to be carried out to her "ride", or was it set far apart like someone was supposed to come in and drink it...

 

[Joe Friday]

I guess it's because LE hasn't ever officially said themselves that Sam's belongings WERE left behind, but I'd say in the majority of missing person's cases they release info on who the last known person the missing spoke to from phone records. We know she spoke to her dad 90 minutes prior to closing, IIRC, because that was reported in the press, but other than that we've never heard.

Another thought, Joe Friday said it looks like the doors or locks were changed. I wonder if her keys were left behind or if they were on her? If left behind, it answers the question about the deadbolt. No key, can't lock the deadbolt from outside. If her keys were gone, the perp then has keys probably to Common Grounds (hence a lock change), to her house, her vehicle, etc. assuming she kept all her keys together.

I don't think the door was changed after Sam was abducted. I think the door was changed sometime after the pictures were taken that are displayed on Common Grounds website of when they opened their first hut which was several years ago and which also happens to be the same hut Sam went missing from on Tudor Rd.

 

[Joe Friday]

Some one mentioned earlier up thread about cell phone coverage around town. I'm to lazy to go back and look for it to quote it so anyway here goes.

If her phone was somewhere that it received NO coverage when JK was calling the phone all night and the next morning the phone would have gone directly to voice mail regardless of if the battery was dead or not. The voice messages are stored on the phone companies equipment, not the actual cell phone and you can leave someone a voice mail even if they do not have service at the time or if their phone is turned off or has a dead battery. Only when the phone is on and has service will you hear a ringing when you call before you eventually get a voice mail message if the party does not answer the phone. I'm sure you all have been talking to someone and lost a call, when you tried calling them back the call went directly to their voice mail, but when you tried again in a few minutes the phone rang and they answered. This was caused by the loss of service whoever you were talking too experienced, not because their phone's battery died.

Since JK said the phone rang until it finally went dead the next day and then the phone went directly to voice mail it can be deducted that the phone was on and receiving service this whole time. (That kind of tells me the phone was located maybe within the city limits if phone coverage is that limited outside the city)

I still want someone to tell me if the darn phone was left in the hut or not. Why LE won't clear that up or anything else about this case is baffling. I personally think LE knows a lot about where she was if her phone was not left in the hut that night and they are keeping that close to the vest. If her phone was in the hut why wouldn't they say that? NOT like it is a national security issue.

JMO

 

[joslmaman]

Do any of you have the link to the interview with Duane where he says it was a mess?
I saw it but it's been a while and I can't find it now. I think it caught me off guard, but then I assumed he meant from there it was an "emotional stressful panic type mess."

 

[bdawk20]

Do any of you have the link to the interview with Duane where he says it was a mess?
I saw it but it's been a while and I can't find it now. I think it caught me off guard, but then I assumed he meant from there it was an "emotional stressful panic type mess."

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...r-of-abducted-barista18-pleads-for-her-return

 

[CincinnatiKate]

Bdawk beat me. by seconds I may add


If you think he meant it was an emotional mess... why did it take the missing money to start looking at surveillance tapes?

Do any of you have the link to the interview with Duane where he says it was a mess?
I saw it but it's been a while and I can't find it now. I think it caught me off guard, but then I assumed he meant from there it was an "emotional stressful panic type mess."

 

[ryanemsmom]

(That kind of tells me the phone was located maybe within the city limits if phone coverage is that limited outside the city)

This really does depend on the carrier. There are a lot of random "dead" spots around town and on the way out of town, but a much larger portion of Alaska has cell coverage than people think.

http://wireless.gci.com/catalog/lifeline-rural-p-154.html?osCsid=f88a330e48fbeec16c25c44b28ccc5b1

Cell coverage map for GCI. You can see the road system and that there is coverage over pretty much all of the roads out of Anchorage.

 

[bdawk20]

Bdawk beat me. by seconds I may add



This is the article with links to KTUU "full story" quoting Duane. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...for-her-return

I win!!!:woohoo: LOL

 

[joslmaman]

Bdawk beat me. by seconds I may add



This is the article with links to KTUU "full story" quoting Duane. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...for-her-return

Thanks guys. I had seen the article, I was hoping to see the video again just to see it because I remember it seeming awkward.

 

[ryanemsmom]

AT&T coverage map for southcentral AK
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/?wtSlotClick=1-006XQI-0-5
Doesn't show the roads but you can see same general coverage.