AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 1 Feb 2012 - #4

[Redgoblin]

Just rereading an article and these 2 statements STILL stick out to me:

We are not going to release details of what led us to him and other details at this time. It’s a sensitive investigation, we still don’t know where she is (and) we don’t want to do anything that would put this investigation in jeopardy,” he (Markiewicz) said.

I did the bolding cause I am clever like that. That isn't the first time I have heard him say this is a sensitive case. That has to mean something indirectly. Sensitive to whom?

..... and then:

Markiewicz said that there was "no information or evidence" that Koenig and Keyes knew each other "before."

Which is probably why I am thinking there are more involved. IK may have been hired and things went down hill from there.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/texas-arrest-made-missing-anchorage-barista-case

Perhaps IK was duped into doing something which on reflection may of not been as innocent as he might of originally thought?

Just a thought?

 

[LucyOso]

This article kind of explains what I was thinking. Maybe this guy has been on the radar due to location, location, location. I wonder what the possibility is that he is using a card or opening an account for another missing person? Maybe the only connection could be that he is suspected, because he may be linked to another missing person. From one of the comments I read in the latest news updated link posted, a local is saying this girl is his bio daughter. Where is that mother? Is it possible these charges really are credit card related now, but highly suspicious because of past patterns?



http://[link removed]/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981199027

 

[GutFeeling!]

Perhaps IK was duped into doing something which on reflection may of not been as innocent as he might of originally thought?

Just a thought?

Yeah ... a wanna earn some easy money? type thing. Told it would last a few days, which turned into weeks. Not sure about the duped part though. He had to know a decent amount of what he was getting into.

Maybe ... (pie in the sky thoughts) he was hired to abduct Sam, didn't want to be at the crime scene, so he hired some dummy for a night to take her and bring her to him and transfers the money from the person that really wants her abducted and then gets that charge cause he has skipped out of carrying everything out that he was supposed to be paid for.

There are some interesting comments on news articles flaoting around.

 

[GutFeeling!]

This article kind of explains what I was thinking. Maybe this guy has been on the radar due to location, location, location. I wonder what the possibility is that he is using a card or opening an account for another missing person? Maybe the only connection could be that he is suspected, because he may be linked to another missing person. From one of the comments I read in the latest news updated link posted, a local is saying this girl is his bio daughter. Where is that mother? Is it possible these charges really are credit card related now, but highly suspicious because of past patterns?



http://[link removed]/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981199027

Police have said it is related to Samantha's case. I doubt there are other missing people he is involved with. I don't doubt that IK is not the main instigator here.

The charges he has at the moment gave police reason to keep him in a federal facility.
Could have been a charge of misuse of a credit card and that doesn't land you in a federal jail.

 

[GutFeeling!]

I just saw who wrote that piece. That is a totally unsourced piece of work written in Vegas (I think) by someone that probably doesn't know as much about this case as you and I, nor does she have any regard or responsibility to answer to anyone. She grabs pieces off other news sources all the time and makes her own guesses.

I think she has written a couple of fiction type books.

She is nothing more than a sleuther with less rules to follow and a paycheck

 

[SmoothOperator]

Just rereading an article and these 2 statements STILL stick out to me:

We are not going to release details of what led us to him and other details at this time. It’s a sensitive investigation, we still don’t know where she is (and) we don’t want to do anything that would put this investigation in jeopardy,” he (Markiewicz) said.

I did the bolding cause I am clever like that. That isn't the first time I have heard him say this is a sensitive case. That has to mean something indirectly. Sensitive to whom?

..... and then:

Markiewicz said that there was "no information or evidence" that Koenig and Keyes knew each other "before."

Which is probably why I am thinking there are more involved. IK may have been hired and things went down hill from there.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/texas-arrest-made-missing-anchorage-barista-case

I believe its obvious why the case would be referred to as sensitive... it doesn't get more sensitive than a young 18yr old girls life literally hanging in the balance...and that sadly IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO ...as we all know its very possible she has already long since lost her life.. IMO these apd officers never in their lives have even dealt with something anywhere near this highly sensitive and of grave importance.. Sensitive to who? Obviously first and foremost sensitive to Sam.. with her life possibly hanging in the balance and then of course her loved ones...another sensitivity of concern is to make damn sure that they(the apd) with their inexperience DONT somehow jeopardize the integrity of the case.. compromising the case and therefore negatively impacting their eventually procuring a successful conviction of those involved.. again as I said it doesn't get more sensitive than that...

As for the "before" regarding LE stating that Sam did not know IK "before"... IMO I can't make a connection in the least with that somehow being indicative that there is more than IK involved.. IMO it means just what it says... LE have found nothing that indicates that Samantha and IK "knew" each other before the day he abducted her.. IMO its very likely that she did not know him and that "if" any familiarity is to exist its likely from his regularly or irregularly frequenting the coffee hut..

I still find it not likely that this man with no criminal past, a family and young daughter, etc, etc..committed this abduction and quite likely murder FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S BENEFIT! NOPE NOT AT ALL IMO... IF IT DOES IN FACT LEAD TO IT BEING IK WHO COMMITTED THESE MULTIPLE CRIMINAL ACTS IMO IT WILL HAVE BEEN DONE FOR NOBODY OTHER THAN HIMSELF THAT HE DID SO.. jmo!

 

[SmoothOperator]

Yes Chelsea Hoffman's word literally means less than zero if that's possible.. she is an attention seeker who desperately leeches onto missing person cases to exploit for limelight. .she's definitely NOT MSM.

 

[Snowbunny]

I have a question...Post #181 has a PDF of his DUI. I noticed the second time around that IK wrote the date as 4 June 01. It didn't strike me at first, because I am an expat living abroad right now. But, typically Americans or those educated in America who have not traveled elsewhere would write the the date as 6/04/01. I am not sure if the Army, Navy, etc trains people to write Day/Month/Year, but in the US we are taught Month/Day/Year. Has he spent time abroad? If he has, is this why there are minimal records? Or does the US Army train them to write this way? I know military time is different. So if this is just standard protocol let me know! Thanks

That's how the military dates all their documents......................................................................................

 

[GutFeeling!]

Of course it is sensitive - a child was abducted, what crime isn't sensitive in nature - police don't oftrn use it.

We can sit back and watch

 

[Montjoy]

Yes Chelsea Hoffman's word literally means less than zero if that's possible.. she is an attention seeker who desperately leeches onto missing person cases to exploit for limelight. .she's definitely NOT MSM.

Slightly OT, but I don't know why [link removed] isn't ***ed-out. And I can see it being worth 'less than zero' in a way -- it can mislead people and lowers the level of discourse and sleuthing here. I think a lot of bad information has muddied or contaminated the pool in many cases, this being a prime example, what with all of the rumor and insinuations about a victim's character that have been treated as fact.

 

[Redgoblin]

The fact that there is a criminal complaint out against him (outside of Alaska) based on what has been written in the MSM - and forgive me if I'm wrong - but does that mean someone (in a civil case) is pursuing him for his past actions, about something he has done in the past, perhaps to do with his construction business?

Was he in the process of getting sued?

Is this why he was in Texas?

So far we have the access fraud, and this past 'complaint' - could it be he wanted a way to make a quick buck to cover himself, it does seem extreme to kidnap someone for ransom tho'

 

[GutFeeling!]

The fact that there is a criminal complaint out against him (outside of Alaska) based on what has been written in the MSM - and forgive me if I'm wrong - but does that mean someone (in a civil case) is pursuing him for his past actions, about something he has done in the past, perhaps to do with his construction business?

Was he in the process of getting sued?

Is this why he was in Texas?

So far we have the access fraud, and this past 'complaint' - could it be he wanted a way to make a quick buck to cover himself, it does seem extreme to kidnap someone for ransom tho'

A civil case becomes criminal when civil actions are broken. Just a basic example: If I get a protective order against you (that is civil), you are served and then approach me. I call the police and it becomes criminal.

It could be anything - but he has broken the civil papers he was served.

The rumor mill is working with why he is in Texas, from a family wedding to trading Sam to Mexico. (absolutely nothing concrete - I am more inclined to lean to the wedding myself).

The evidence in the car is what has me most baffled. From my readings that evidence has something to do with Samantha directly (but I may be wrong). I think more people are involved and I link it all to drugs because drug money is always dirty money and there is a never a case where someone isn't hurt. And the drug world is so underground

 

[SmoothOperator]

Of course it is sensitive - a child was abducted, what crime isn't sensitive in nature - police don't oftrn use it.

We can sit back and watch

I respectfully disagree and give 3 quickly cited articles including statements made by LE where they state directly that the case/investigation is that of a sensitive nature.. these are just easily Googled examples but in following many missing person cases the investigating agencies many many times refer to the case as a whole or specific areas of a case or investigation as sensitive .. just as the first example below is of missing Haleigh Cummings..

Hardy declined to allow formal interviews with agency members about the investigation “due to the sensitive nature of the case,” the release said.
http://staugustine.com/police-repor...rd-anniversary-haleigh-cummings-disappearance

Dane County Sheriff's Office Investigating Alleged Prosser ... tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/.../dane_county_ sheriffs_offi... Jun 27, 2011 – The sheriff's office said in a statement issued Monday: ... recognizes the significance and sensitive nature of this investigation. ... Because this case is in the very early stages, no further information is available at this time.

Due to the sensitive nature of the investigation, Sheriff Ray Stone is not releasing any further information about the incident at this time.
http://www.salemnews.net/page/content.detail/id/545131/Death-cause-is--questionable-.html?nav=5007

HTH

 

[bessie]

The fact that there is a criminal complaint out against him (outside of Alaska) based on what has been written in the MSM - and forgive me if I'm wrong - but does that mean someone (in a civil case) is pursuing him for his past actions, about something he has done in the past, perhaps to do with his construction business?

Was he in the process of getting sued?

Is this why he was in Texas?

So far we have the access fraud, and this past 'complaint' - could it be he wanted a way to make a quick buck to cover himself, it does seem extreme to kidnap someone for ransom tho'

Redgoblin, I haven't read anything about a criminal complaint other than the one issued by a U.S. magistrate in Anchorage on 03/13/2012 and filed in the Eastern District Court in Texas on 03/14/2012. I think the wording in the news reports are misleading. Is this what you're referring to?

According to a criminal complaint filed in Texas, Keyes took $1,000 or more from another person sometime between Tuesday, Feb. 28 and Tuesday, March 13, the day he was arrested.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/...-awaits.html#storylink=misearch#storylink=cpy

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/...torylink=misearch#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy​

Unless I've totally missed something. If that's the case, would someone please provide a link or at least direct me to the right source. TIA!

 

[isamom]

Yes Chelsea Hoffman's word literally means less than zero if that's possible.. she is an attention seeker who desperately leeches onto missing person cases to exploit for limelight. .she's definitely NOT MSM.

That is so beyond true. Just wanted to say Thank you for posting this. I couldnt agree more. She is far from "real" news. And NOT MSM. Thanks for your post.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Not sure where I stand on Chelsea Hoffman. She seems to "tell it like it is" in not such a politically correct way. IMO there's not much difference between her site vs any other blog or forum with various people expressing their opinions, especially compared to people that obviously insert themselves & post whatever they feel simply bc they heard one side of a story & decide to take sides right away. Not sure about main stream media being mentioned bc Chelsea Hoffman's blog might not be msm BUT the Huffington Post definitely is, and Chelsea Hoffman officially writes for them now.

Sure, she may have a lashing tongue but it's nothing I haven't seen before from others on the net, even here. The difference is that Websleuths is respectful and run most of the time with class. However, even here, ya still run across those same types of posts sometimes. It happens.

I like to stay open & look at all perspectives... My only exception is in the JBR case - I absolutely despise the Ramseys & 100% honestly believe they're totally unequivocally involved in JBR's death & coverup.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Busy day today so can't be on much. Have a question: Israel had an id hearing in TX the other day. Is that normal standard procedure? Is an ID hearing the same as a Wade hearing? IK is 34 years old. Why isn't he popping up on the net as far as credit history & such? Past residences? Net activity? I find it a little odd that his "construction" company has a website but he doesn't have a web trail. Why? Was he previously married? He says he was discharged in June 2000 from the Army but receives an "award" citing a 2001 date. How is that possible? Is it normal to even be discharged from the army in 3 years? Were rules different before 9/11? Are we sure he was really honorably discharged? I know a person can get dishonorably discharged for AWOL but fight the charge to prove active time served as far as hours are concerned, then have that dishonorable discharged changed to honorable discharge. So my mind is spinning.

If this guy isn't involved, then his life is being ruined for no good reason by tying him to Sam's abduction. I would think le has something on him that's concrete enough to follow him to TX.

I'm thinking of that guy Rockefeller in the New England states. He wasn't who everybody thought he was.

 

[obody]

I still find it not likely that this man with no criminal past, a family and young daughter, etc, etc..committed this abduction and quite likely murder FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S BENEFIT! NOPE NOT AT ALL IMO... IF IT DOES IN FACT LEAD TO IT BEING IK WHO COMMITTED THESE MULTIPLE CRIMINAL ACTS IMO IT WILL HAVE BEEN DONE FOR NOBODY OTHER THAN HIMSELF THAT HE DID SO.. jmo!

If he did it, and there were others involved, I wonder if he himself could have gotten too deep in something - perhaps this could have been a way for him to pay a debt.

 

[cluciano63]

I agree that if he is guilty of kidnapping Samantha, he did it for his own reasons...this is too "big" of a crime to do for someone else, IMO...also I don't believe AK would send LEO's to TX unless they had really solid evidence linking him to the abduction. JMO

 

[TxLady2]

Busy day today so can't be on much. Have a question: Israel had an id hearing in TX the other day. Is that normal standard procedure? Is an ID hearing the same as a Wade hearing? IK is 34 years old. Why isn't he popping up on the net as far as credit history & such? Past residences? Net activity? I find it a little odd that his "construction" company has a website but he doesn't have a web trail. Why? Was he previously married? He says he was discharged in June 2000 from the Army but receives an "award" citing a 2001 date. How is that possible? Is it normal to even be discharged from the army in 3 years? Were rules different before 9/11? Are we sure he was really honorably discharged? I know a person can get dishonorably discharged for AWOL but fight the charge to prove active time served as far as hours are concerned, then have that dishonorable discharged changed to honorable discharge. So my mind is spinning.

If this guy isn't involved, then his life is being ruined for no good reason by tying him to Sam's abduction. I would think le has something on him that's concrete enough to follow him to TX.

I'm thinking of that guy Rockefeller in the New England states. He wasn't who everybody thought he was.

Yes. There is a 3-year enlistment in the Army.