AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 1 Feb 2012 - #5

[z560]

Thanks so much for the affidavit bessie!

Some interesting pieces from it:

-- It looks like IK took out money in Anchorage on 2/28 and 2/29. Then there is nothing until 3/7 when IK is in Arizona AND NOW DISGUISED taking out money at an ATM. After that you have regular withdrawals every day or every other day until IK is apprehended. What happened between 2/28 and 3/7 that caused IK to take on a disguise??? Why the week long gap between use of the card? Is this around the same time that the reward fund started coming in to question?

--"Multiple maps with what appeared to be highlighted routes from north to south through California, and other highlighted areas in Arizona and New Mexico, were observed on the floorboard of the vehicle during contact with KEYES." What does this mean? Did he drive through California? What is with the highlighting? Obviously the route was planned out in advance--were there specific places he needed to stop? What for?

--Here is the background on the special agent filing the affidavit: "I am currently employed as a Special Agent (SA) for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and have been so employed since October of 1996. During my employment with the FBI, I have been assigned the investigation of criminal matters within the jurisdiction of the FBI, with emphasis in the areas of bank robbery, drugs, street gangs, fugitives, crimes aboard aircraft, the sexual exploitation of children and white collar crime. I have been assigned to a violent crime and drug squad within the Anchorage Office of the FBI since October of 1998, and I was detailed to the Anchorage Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Task Force from June 1999- July 2000."

So basically this agent could have something to do with every possible avenue of this case--drugs, gangs, human trafficking, or fraud. :banghead:

 

[Fishermom]

Scratch this question. The timing's all wrong. He told LE he flew to LV on 03/07, but he used the card in Wilcox, AZ, 500 miles from LV, at noon on 03/7. And then there were the maps with driving routes through California.

Ties in nicely with why the car he supposedly rented in Las Vegas has TX plates... (though I realize you can get cars with out of state plates from rental companies...). Would be nice to be able to check it...

 

[Knox]

The affidavit says Keyes rented the White Ford Focus at McCarran? The affidavit says the car has Texas plates? Did he swipe a plate in Texas and put it on the car?

 

[katydid23]

Scratch this question. The timing's all wrong. He told LE he flew to LV on 03/07, but he used the card in Wilcox, AZ, 500 miles from LV, at noon on 03/7. And then there were the maps with driving routes through California.

Yes, good catch. I thought he might have been lying from the way the article was written. He SAID he flew to Las Vegas, they never said he DID do so.

So he was a con man, we know that. But was he a killer too?

 

[z560]

Interesting that the affidavit says that $400 was over the limit on 3/8... "10. On 03/08/2012, at approximately 1:24am MST, there was an attempted $400.00 withdrawal at the Western Bank located at 711 Main Street in Lordsburg, New Mexico using Person A's stolen VISA debit card to access the same Credit Union 1 bank account. The withdrawal was declined by the ATM, because it would have exceeded the daily withdrawal limit. " Does it vary by ATM? Strange (?)

There was a $400 withdrawal on 3/7, so I'm thinking maybe it goes by 24 hour period and he tried to withdraw $400 twice in one 24 hour period? That would be $800 and we know from earlier in the affidavit that $600 was over the "daily" limit.

 

[SUNchips]

Scratch this question. The timing's all wrong. He told LE he flew to LV on 03/07, but he used the card in Wilcox, AZ, 500 miles from LV, at noon on 03/7. And then there were the maps with driving routes through California.

The California maps throw me off too, but he used the card in Arizona at 11:57pm on March 7, not noon.

 

[katydid23]

The California maps throw me off too, but he used the card in Arizona at 11:57pm on March 7, not noon.

Ok, then he would have been able to fly into Vegas and still make it to Arizona by midnight,right?

 

[Knox]

How old is Duane? The affidavit said that the card was issued in Sept. 2005. I don't think he is old enough to have a 7 year old debit card.

I wonder if IK really did fly to Vegas or not. It seems like it would be easy and quick for the police who pulled him over to find out of the car really was rented from the LV airport.

And then there's the maps with directions from North to South in California. Maybe IK flew into Vegas and then drove through California, and then on to the I-10 to begin his route through Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. I don't know why he would do that, but it seems like he must have been doing something illegal with his driving route, the money rolled up on the floor, ect.

The reference to 2005 is the insured deposit issuance to Credit 1, not the ATM card.

 

[z560]

Ok, then he would have been able to fly into Vegas and still make it to Arizona by midnight,right?

Accordingly to Google maps, Wilcox AZ is an 8 1/2 hour drive from Vegas. So I think that is possible.

But then why the maps with highlighting in California?

 

[obody]

There was a $400 withdrawal on 3/7, so I'm thinking maybe it goes by 24 hour period and he tried to withdraw $400 twice in one 24 hour period? That would be $800 and we know from earlier in the affidavit that $600 was over the "daily" limit.

Or possibly it ticks over at midnight Alaska time. Which would be 2 am Mountain.

 

[SUNchips]

Ok, then he would have been able to fly into Vegas and still make it to Arizona by midnight,right?

Definitely, I've driven from Vegas to right near where he was in Arizona in around 5 hours before. He would also have had enough time to drive from Vegas, through California, and then to Arizona, all before midnight. This is IMO, nowhere has it said that that's what he did.

 

[bessie]

The California maps throw me off too, but he used the card in Arizona at 11:57pm on March 7, not noon.

Ach! I just realized that. It's waaaaay past my bedtime. :blushing:

 

[Fishermom]

Definitely, I've driven from Vegas to right near where he was in Arizona in around 5 hours before. He would also have had enough time to drive from Vegas, through California, and then to Arizona, all before midnight. This is IMO, nowhere has it said that that's what he did.

If he did, the area of CA he likely may have driven through, most likely, would have been the Mojave Desert area. Amazing place, but many very remote areas...though I will also note that March is probably the most popular time for visits to this area (desert bloom), so maybe a bit more busy with people than usual...but it doesn't take much to get off the main road and out of the public eye.

 

[z560]

So the card was stolen on 2/2.

It was used on 2/28 and 2/29 in Anchorage.

Then not used again until 3/7, this time in Arizona. At this point IK is using a disguise to access the card. It is used regularly after that until IK is apprehended.

(Note: the drive from Anchorage to Arizona is about 4,000 miles--seven or eight days at 800 miles a day.)

(Also note: the reward fund becomes an issue in the media around 2/29-- http://www.adn.com/2012/02/29/2344750/search-for-koenig-continues-a.html )

I feel like these facts are very important.

Why wait three and a half weeks to use the card?

Then why the week in between the use on 2/29 and the use on 3/7? And why the sudden need for the disguise?

 

[katydid23]

If he did, the area of CA he likely may have driven through, most likely, would have been the Mojave Desert area. Amazing place, but many very remote areas...though I will also note that March is probably the most popular time for visits to this area (desert bloom), so maybe a bit more busy with people than usual...but it doesn't take much to get off the main road and out of the public eye.

But he couldn't have had Sam with him at that time. No way she flew with him to vegas.

 

[GutFeeling!]

Accordingly to Google maps, Wilcox AZ is an 8 1/2 hour drive from Vegas. So I think that is possible.

But then why the maps with highlighting in California?

I am sure flights from Alaska fly directly to Oregon. The maps down Cali would get him over to Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

That is the route I drove to Oregon from Texas - much less snow that way. The whole "dlew to Vega" may be a lie too.

If the first transaction was the 28th that may be the amount of time needed to get money in that account.

Did anyway take notes of JKs posts on facebook? I am thinking all this could be tied in to rants ... I am so tired I am not making sense huh?

 

[Knox]

If he did, the area of CA he likely may have driven through, most likely, would have been the Mojave Desert area. Amazing place, but many very remote areas...though I will also note that March is probably the most popular time for visits to this area (desert bloom), so maybe a bit more busy with people than usual...but it doesn't take much to get off the main road and out of the public eye.

I was raised in the tri-state area of CA, AZ & NV. There are a couple of different ways he could have drove, but Vegas to Kingman, then pick up 40 East seems most direct. But I think it said he was on 10? Wayyy to late to think rationally.

Night all!

 

[bessie]

Definitely, I've driven from Vegas to right near where he was in Arizona in around 5 hours before. He would also have had enough time to drive from Vegas, through California, and then to Arizona, all before midnight. This is IMO, nowhere has it said that that's what he did.

No, we don't know for sure, but it seems significant. Even if he didn't go to California, he took an unusual route from LV to Lufkin.

 

[GutFeeling!]

So the card was stolen on 2/2.

It was used on 2/28 and 2/29 in Anchorage.

Then not used again until 3/7, this time in Arizona. At this point IK is using a disguise to access the card. It is used regularly after that until IK is apprehended. (Note: the drive from Anchorage to Arizona is about 4,000 miles--seven or eight days at 800 miles a day.)

I feel like these facts are very important.

Why wait three and a half weeks to use the card?

Then why the week in between the use on 2/29 and the use on 3/7? And why the sudden need for the disguise?

Forget the flight to Vegas for a sec (why in hell would he tell police the date he flew anyway).
He doesn't use the card until there are funds in the account. He uses it in anchorage, flies to Oregon or Cali, drives down I5 in Cali, on to I10 which goes from Cali to who knows where via the states of Arizona and New Mexico and Texas.
He can drive down I5 to Arizona in 2 days or as long as he wants from Oregon or North Cali, where he starts withdrawing money constantly to daily limits every day, to get the amount needed for the pay off he is collecting.


The important words in that affidavit is that not all the information is there, just enough to get a warrant signed for an arrest.

 

[bessie]

So the card was stolen on 2/2.

It was used on 2/28 and 2/29 in Anchorage.

Then not used again until 3/7, this time in Arizona. At this point IK is using a disguise to access the card. It is used regularly after that until IK is apprehended.

(Note: the drive from Anchorage to Arizona is about 4,000 miles--seven or eight days at 800 miles a day.)

(Also note: the reward fund becomes an issue in the media around 2/29-- http://www.adn.com/2012/02/29/2344750/search-for-koenig-continues-a.html )

I feel like these facts are very important.

Why wait three and a half weeks to use the card?

Then why the week in between the use on 2/29 and the use on 3/7? And why the sudden need for the disguise?

Thank you! I was too tired to look it up, but I was trying to recall what we were hearing in the news around 02/28-29. And yes, why wait almost a month to use the card. When credit/debit cards are stolen they're normally used immediately. It's a lot to think about.