Found Deceased AL - Aniah Haley Blanchard, 19, Auburn, Lee County, 23 Oct 2019 *Arrest* #5

[Sleuthinsleuther]

Were allowed to discuss theories but not tips? I say the “tip” is more of a theory anyways....

 

[0101ABA]

Were allowed to discuss theories but not tips? I say the “tip” is more of a theory anyways....

I understand what you are saying. While yes, a tip is a form of a theory, we do not discuss tips we’ve called in here. If you have a theory that you feel strongly enough about to contact LE, we need to be respectful and give them time to do their job and look into it.

Just for example, say you have a tip as to where you strongly believe Aniah’s body may be. If a member were to post specifics here, a co-conspirator or even a family member of the accused may decide to move the body or heaven forbid, ambush LE at the burial site during their investigation. Now if a theory/tip is published in MSM then it can be discussed.

 

[Angleterre]

I don’t know why he waited. I can speculate but I could be wrong. IMHO it had nothing to do with the reward. He didn’t come forward. He was basically investigated, imho.

I’ve mentioned this previously but I feel it prudent to mention it again and remind people that there are no rights or wrongs about the witness coming forward ( or not as in this case until LE found him) , and the reality of what this person may face or may believe he faces by giving up his account .


There are no rights or wrongs in this situation of this witness coming forward or not or even when because unless and until you are ever unfortunate enough to take a walk in their shoes , then sat safely behind a keyboard in the comfort of your own home, you could not possibly ever imagine the fear that some people justifiably feel.
I speak from first hand witnessed experience when a case I was investigating involved 40+ doormen who were all heavily armed, traveled in a convoy to a specific location where it was known that the person who they had a ‘beef’ with, would be.
Once there, which incidentally it was a pub on a Sunday afternoon filled with patrons young and old, families with children etc , a handful went into the pub whilst the rest stood guard outside, and ‘hacked’ a man to death in front of his wife and children and the pub customers and staff.
They had on no facial covering or balaclavas and they did not deface or cover up the CCTV cameras such was their confidence that nobody would give a witness statement to the Police, stating what they saw . And they were so sure that if anybody did, that they would soon be persuaded by whatever means necessary, not to give evidence in court .
Out of many ,many witnesses, 1 , just 1, came forward and she stated that it was the biggest mistake of her life.
Even though all sorts of measures were put in place to protect her, she had no option but to go into ‘witness protection ‘ which if you aren’t aware , means total separation from every person who has ever been in your life including parents and siblings etc
It means a whole new identity in a whole new city away from everyone and everything that you have ever known.
Did they find her, of course they did .
But it didn’t stop there. Her family home was firebombed and razed to the ground. Her parents and grandparents were continually subjected to threats . Her brother was kidnapped and left for dead . I could continue but I think my message is clear enough. This was an exceptional circumstance but it does happen and none of us can know how we would feel if we witnessed Amiahs kidnapping because none of us know what the perpetrator/s is or are capable of ( albeit we have already got an idea ) and we don’t know if there was any kind of relationship between the witness and the perpetrator/s and how identifiable they would be.
So please have some compassion if you don’t already have, for the unknown situation that this witness was in .
Yes it could well be that it may have saved Amiahs life ( if in fact she’s dead ) but contrast this with the thought that the witness could be signing a death warrant for his/her own family members and think of the torture the witness may have felt ,weighing up what to do . Either way, this witness is in a lose lose situation because whatever they do or don’t do, they have to live with the consequences for the rest of their lives so it’s potentially not just Amiahs life ruined and that of her family and friends but also the life of the witness and their family and friends. Food for thought people .

 

[Van Helsing]

I’ve mentioned this previously but I feel it prudent to mention it again and remind people that there are no rights or wrongs about the witness coming forward ( or not as in this case until LE found him) , and the reality of what this person may face or may believe he faces by giving up his account .


There are no rights or wrongs in this situation of this witness coming forward or not or even when because unless and until you are ever unfortunate enough to take a walk in their shoes , then sat safely behind a keyboard in the comfort of your own home, you could not possibly ever imagine the fear that some people justifiably feel.
I speak from first hand witnessed experience when a case I was investigating involved 40+ doormen who were all heavily armed, traveled in a convoy to a specific location where it was known that the person who they had a ‘beef’ with, would be.
Once there, which incidentally it was a pub on a Sunday afternoon filled with patrons young and old, families with children etc , a handful went into the pub whilst the rest stood guard outside, and ‘hacked’ a man to death in front of his wife and children and the pub customers and staff.
They had on no facial covering or balaclavas and they did not deface or cover up the CCTV cameras such was their confidence that nobody would give a witness statement to the Police, stating what they saw . And they were so sure that if anybody did, that they would soon be persuaded by whatever means necessary, not to give evidence in court .
Out of many ,many witnesses, 1 , just 1, came forward and she stated that it was the biggest mistake of her life.
Even though all sorts of measures were put in place to protect her, she had no option but to go into ‘witness protection ‘ which if you aren’t aware , means total separation from every person who has ever been in your life including parents and siblings etc
It means a whole new identity in a whole new city away from everyone and everything that you have ever known.
Did they find her, of course they did .
But it didn’t stop there. Her family home was firebombed and razed to the ground. Her parents and grandparents were continually subjected to threats . Her brother was kidnapped and left for dead . I could continue but I think my message is clear enough. This was an exceptional circumstance but it does happen and none of us can know how we would feel if we witnessed Amiahs kidnapping because none of us know what the perpetrator/s is or are capable of ( albeit we have already got an idea ) and we don’t know if there was any kind of relationship between the witness and the perpetrator/s and how identifiable they would be.
So please have some compassion if you don’t already have, for the unknown situation that this witness was in .
Yes it could well be that it may have saved Amiahs life ( if in fact she’s dead ) but contrast this with the thought that the witness could be signing a death warrant for his/her own family members and think of the torture the witness may have felt ,weighing up what to do . Either way, this witness is in a lose lose situation because whatever they do or don’t do, they have to live with the consequences for the rest of their lives so it’s potentially not just Amiahs life ruined and that of her family and friends but also the life of the witness and their family and friends. Food for thought people .

Thank you for that reminder. Very sad. What are "doormen"? I can't find a definition on line that seems to fit. Do you mind sharing what country this was?

 

[Angleterre]

Idk if you can force someone to testify. I’m NO lawyer so anyone who does know please chime in. But for whatever reason I was thinking that you could have a witness come forward but that witness refuse to testify in court?

I think the only reason she came up & was relevant at all was as the reason he didn’t come forward immediately. I would think if the witness didn’t lead them to believe that she was his partner of some kind (wife, gf) that they wouldn’t have made mention of a relationship between the two. There are other ways to say that without specifically making her his partner. So, I don’t think she has any relevance for being brought up other than that being the reason he didn’t call the cops. IMO.

I can only answer this from the perspective of how it works in the UK
You can take a witness statement and once the case gets to Crown Court the witness will be compelled to give evidence. However, some people for a variety of reasons, decide not to give evidence as per their statement by either refusing to answer to their Barrister wether it be prosecuting or defending Barrister or by refusing to speak at all or by diluting or refuting their original written statement. Obviously, a person cannot be made to speak but if that’s the case then the presiding judge will give an instruction that failure to comply will result in a mandatory prison sentence. The witness will be given one more chance by the judge but if he or she still refuses then they will be sent to prison immediately for contempt of court. This can and does happen to ensure that the justice system is not abused or disrupted by witnesses being ‘paid off ‘ by the defendant(s) and / or their comrades. The sentence can be anything from 24/48 hours or a couple of weeks to send the message that it will not be tolerated.

 

[Angleterre]

Thank you for that reminder. Very sad. What are "doormen"? I can't find a definition on line that seems to fit. Do you mind sharing what country this was?

A Doorman is basically a security guard who works the ‘doors ‘ of nightclubs, deciding on whom enters the club etc and to purportedly stop any overly drunken or violent patron/s going into the nightclub. It was in the UK in Liverpool in the 1990’s

 

[Van Helsing]

Thanks.

A Doorman is basically a security guard who works the ‘doors ‘ of nightclubs, deciding on whom enters the club etc and to purportedly stop any overly drunken or violent patron/s going into the nightclub. It was in the UK in Liverpool in the 1990’s

I can see how some kind of organization of doormen could be intimidating.
Edit: I found on line that criminals got in control of some security companies and there were criminals functioning as doormen.

 

[jenn83]

Looks like someone is cleaning up the fb pages just a little bit. The post from today (which appears to have been made by the 2nd suspect's son) has been deleted.

and replaced by a live video......wow is all I can say.

 

[Angleterre]

Just thinking along these lines, and assuming rape and murder: If this was a random act, IY and his possible accomplices probably didn't come prepared to bury someone. So if she is in Auburn I would think they put her in some kind of container and duct taped it up or just dumped her in the woods or in a pond. If they did bury her, they probably had to go to Wal-Mart to buy tools or they stole some (LE could check W-M video & could ask public to report stolen tools). They probably didn't have time to rape, murder, acquire tools, and bury her within that hour, so if she is buried it may be more likely she is not in Auburn. Factor in the amount of blood in the car. Characteristics of the blood evidence, considering how much there is and how fast a body bleeds when dying or dead, LE may have some idea of the likelihood she is still in Auburn, if they really did leave at 12:30. Sorry for morbid thoughts.

LE and forensic scientists who examined the vehicle will be able to tell from the amount of blood and the blood pattern analysis within the vehicle, the likelihood that Amiah was murdered inside the vehicle and potentially how.
It is exceptionally clever science work!

 

[montana1]

Oh, okay. I was wondering if he sold the item to someone in Florida or sold something that he was trying to get rid of which would have connected him to this case.

Do we know what her keys/key chain looked like? I was wondering about the ones pictures with the outfit. It had beads on it which seemed odd for a tough guy - MOO.

 

[Angleterre]

He could have called it in as an anonymous tipster.

But depending on any potential relationship between IY and the witness and / or what he witnessed and who was around at that time. Even anonymously, it’s possible that IY could deduce with certainty that the anonymous caller was him . It’s not as clear cut as it seems and can still have ‘danger ‘ written all over it even after being reported anonymously

 

[155etta]

and replaced by a live video......wow is all I can say.

She's classy isn't she.

 

[jenn83]

She is posting live videos on his page and on her own.

 

[ce4au]

and replaced by a live video......wow is all I can say.

**3 live videos lol all I know to say is what you said. Wow.....

 

[0101ABA]

It’s called a filter. For some people it comes to us as an innate/ingrained quality, but for others, it’s just a skill they are not adequately equipped to acquire

 

[jenn83]

She's classy isn't she.

Omg I feel so bad for the little girl in the back

 

[jenn83]

Has the name of the gang been mentioned? Crumb Nation, maybe? They need to be brought down. I hope Aniah does it.

This was just mentioned in a comment on his page.

 

[jenn83]

Now all the live videos have been deleted.

 

[Lesliebham]

Sometimes when i think i may have read some information about somebody, but do not know where, or if the info. is even legit and do not have a proper news link to post- i might post in question form, if there is a possibility that so and so lives with you know who and i finish that post, with a imo (in my opinion) rumour and/or speculation, ect.
FWIW (for what it is worth)

Thank you. I absolutely see what you mean and will phrase It that way for sure next time- but will try to hunt down the source first!!

 

[Ashley74]

Just thinking out loud...is it at all possible that the second suspect arrested was the witness that confirmed seeing IY abduct Aniah?