AL AL - Brittney Wood, 19, Mobile, 31 May 2012 - #11

[Lady Demelza]

Ian Watkins.

Just putting his name first because I wanted to mention that case (it's relevant I think), but my brain just keeps shutting out his name. So, anyway, ex-singer with british band who has just pled and been found guilty of baby rape.

It is absolutely gobsmacking and sickening and unbelievable. I saw some social media trails indicating the charges were not news to many people, and followed them. I couldn't believe that years of repeated accusations of baby and child abuse all over the web, with links, could have been ignored by media and even authorities. That couldn't happen, could it?

Everything I found indicates yes it could. And did. Forums from 2009 where ex girlfriends are posting again and again about the danger he poses, and how complaints to police have been ignored. Links to his sites, and comments, viewed by thousands, and his boasts about a five year old victim.....oh, and a little clue in his password, of course.; I....kids.

Yet not a word was written by mainstream media, and police only arrested him after accidentally finding video evidence of his child abuse when they searched his house following a drug offence. Under US laws, I think that would have been disallowed as evidence? Anyway, two moms of the babes have been found guilty of helping. Their names will never be known, to protect their little ones. Police are looking for more victims.

There just seems to be something that makes people disbelieve such horrific stuff can be true, and they stay quiet, hoping it will just go away. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

I am now really thankful this case has had the coverage it has got. Brittney now seems lucky to me, in the sense that at least one loyal journalist has stuck with this story and refused to drop it. I didn't quite appreciate what that may have taken, up to now, after becoming aware of that man's case, up above.

I think a big problem with some media outlets may be that they just don't know how to cope with coverage of this child sex abuse ring, and its terrible details. And because it's impossible to mention Brittney's disappearance without mentioning that, Brittney's case doesn't get coverage.

I don't know if Steph has ever had media training, but she has done an amazing job of getting coverage of Brittney's disappearance, and providing quotes and information that is easy for media to use. I wish a media professional could step up and help her out though, because it is too much for one person.

Sigh. I am being pessimistic today. Pictures of sick pedos hugging kids in hospitals, heartbroken, big tough Scottish men weeping for their lost dads and people starting petitions to free husbands charged with the murder of their sweet, beautiful wives has done it.

Perhaps someone will dig deep and find the shred of decency necessary to allow Brittney to be brought home soon. I'll hold onto that spark of hope.

Zwiebel im glad you mentioned the miscreant that is Ian Watkins, I mentioned him earlier on in this topic. He is the vilest of excuses for humanity, the mothers names are widely available on the net and particularly twitter. It has been widely stated that he is a paedophile of the worst order for many years, and an abuser of his young ie. underage fans for many years. How his band mates claim to have no inkling, at least with the underage fans is beyond me, as a large proportion of the abuse took place while on tour. For many years his ex partner joanne Nikita majic (web name) has been abused by his fans but it turned out she was telling the truth. There is likely many more young mothers who gave their children to Watkins to abuse, but it is unlikely they will come forward. This has rocked the foundations of the UK and is almost unbelievable, except that he admitted his crimes. Anyone from US google it and be prepared to be horrified, it is absolutely disgusting. I still cannot get my head around it. He pleaded guilty in the end so no trial is forthcoming, although he wasn't convicted of actual rape of the male baby, just attempted rape, as the video footage wasn't clear enough. He was a coprophiliac, paedophile, sado-masochist, and seriously f***ed up human being. I only wish we had the death penalty in the UK, for cases that are beyond doubt, exactly like this one.

The detective in charge is now being investigated for not bringing charges sooner, after being advised of abuse 4 yrs prior to his initial arrest on drugs charges. The detective worked and lived in Ian Watkins home village, a small place in South Wales with a population of approx 10,000 .

 

[zwiebel]

I didn't know about the detective living in the home village.

It really is unbelievable the amount of stuff that has been out there on the internet for years - and poor Jo being dismissed as 'jealous' and 'mad'.

It has given me another perspective on Brittney's case - compared to the Watkins case, the Woods and Kents and Hollands were super, super secretive. Even though they probably weren't, if you know what I mean.

But in England there was a tough woman with her own resources, who didn't give a damn, shouting her head off for years, and no-one listened.

It has made me realize exactly how incredibly brave the young victims are in this case. I so hope they have happy lives ahead of them, and they are loved and cared for in the way all children should be.

 

[zwiebel]

If one of this bunch don't try and bring Brittney home, they can all rot for all I care. They haven't lifted a finger to help find her so far, and that would have been the only way to try and make some sort of amends.

 

[zwiebel]

Unless you count the premature gravestone and Chessie's fundraising efforts.

 

[minusfour]

If one of this bunch don't try and bring Brittney home, they can all rot for all I care. They haven't lifted a finger to help find her so far, and that would have been the only way to try and make some sort of amends.

I agree. There really has to be some remorse for any hope of redemption in the future, and this would have to include bringing Brittney home. At times I find it very difficult to think of this group as human beings.

 

[*Lash*]

I agree. There really has to be some remorse for any hope of redemption in the future, and this would have to include bringing Brittney home. At times I find it very difficult to think of this group as human beings.

I personally don't believe ANY member of this sick group is remorseful. I don't think they're capable of remorse unless they are feeling sorry for themselves. How can a person rape a child and be capable of feeling remorse at the same time? One would think if they were capable of feeling remorse, then they would never have raped a child. I happen to believe people who rape have a narcissistic personality disorder of some type. I don't mean this to be used as an insanity claim either. I just don't believe they actually see their victims as innocent human beings, more as objects. All these sick people care about is their own selfish wants. In my opinion if any of these scums end up talking about what happened to Brittney or her whereabouts, it will have zero to do with remorse. The only reason they will talk is to get a reduced sentence and to cover their own arse. The only emotions they're capable of feeling are all self absorbed.

ETA - or they feel remorse when they know the gig is up. Which imo is what happened with RSW.

 

[SilkySifaka]

I personally don't believe ANY member of this sick group is remorseful. I don't think they're capable of remorse unless they are feeling sorry for themselves. How can a person rape a child and be capable of feeling remorse at the same time? One would think if they were capable of feeling remorse, then they would never have raped a child. I happen to believe people who rape have a narcissistic personality disorder of some type. I don't mean this to be used as an insanity claim either. I just don't believe they actually see their victims as innocent human beings, more as objects. All these sick people care about is their own selfish wants. In my opinion if any of these scums end up talking about what happened to Brittney or her whereabouts, it will have zero to do with remorse. The only reason they will talk is to get a reduced sentence and to cover their own arse. The only emotions they're capable of feeling are all self absorbed.

ETA - or they feel remorse when they know the gig is up. Which imo is what happened with RSW.

RSW was on my radar for Brittney's death long before his arrest. I found his insistence on being the voice and leader of the searchersl classic perp behavior of inesrting himself into the case and of course WWH was on there too because of her behavior re Britt's phone and online messages. I think between the two of them there was ample evidence to believe Britt was murdered and certainly at least one of them was in charge of it. Then the rung got busted open and the reasons became clear.

Further i believe RSW went to police to deflect any suspicion of himself re murder and get them busy with a sex ring to deal with .AFTER checking possible bail amounts and sentences in case he was blown as well. The bails in the case are a joke

 

[TobyWong*]

Zweible re: dk being the letter writer.
Phone is acting up hard to quote.
I for one didn't consider him only because I'm guilty of profiling him as somone who might not be able to write full complete sentences or write so neatly. Bad I know but now that you mention it, yes dk is a good possibility. I also never consider brownlee for the same reasons.

What do we have next? When are the next round of court dates?

 

[KateB]

Review this from 6/20/12 when Dustin Kent and Scott Wood were arrested.
http://www.fox10tv.com/news/two-men-arrested-for-sex-crimes

Arthur is with Baldwin Co Sheriff's Office.

"Captain Arthur said the juvenile victim in this case contacted the sheriff's office. Investigators called one of the men she accused in for questioning, and officials said the suspect confessed."
"Arthur said the suspect who confessed gave them the name of the second suspect in this case."

Yet we have this - http://www.fox10tv.com/news/special-report-missing-brittney
"It's a story that technically began February 26, 2012 when investigators said Brittney's uncle, Randall Scott Wood, called authorities to report the family sex abuse."

I understand that both of these could be accurate with different victims but is that the case? The first is a direct quote from LE. The second is not. I believe at this point, it was the same victim. If that is the case, which of these reports is correct or how else can both be correct? Could they have went in together?

 

[KateB]

Zweible re: dk being the letter writer.
Phone is acting up hard to quote.
I for one didn't consider him only because I'm guilty of profiling him as somone who might not be able to write full complete sentences or write so neatly. Bad I know but now that you mention it, yes dk is a good possibility. I also never consider brownlee for the same reasons.

What do we have next? When are the next round of court dates?

Brownlee seems to be a minor player so I had not considered him. I'm only suggesting Dustin. We all were so disappointed in Scott after thinking he was one in the family that seemed to sincerely care about Brittney. Sometimes I think we weren't wrong then.

I don't remember seeing any samples of Dustin Kent's grammar skills. He had 2 different Facebook accounts, only one is still up https://www.facebook.com/dustin.kent.10
It doesn't indicate what his education level is either other than he attended Theodore High School. Has anyone seen anything he has posted?

 

[Louvie]

I didn't know about the detective living in the home village.

It really is unbelievable the amount of stuff that has been out there on the internet for years - and poor Jo being dismissed as 'jealous' and 'mad'.

It has given me another perspective on Brittney's case - compared to the Watkins case, the Woods and Kents and Hollands were super, super secretive. Even though they probably weren't, if you know what I mean.

But in England there was a tough woman with her own resources, who didn't give a damn, shouting her head off for years, and no-one listened.

It has made me realize exactly how incredibly brave the young victims are in this case. I so hope they have happy lives ahead of them, and they are loved and cared for in the way all children should be.

This made me think about how young girls here (UK) and elsewhere are often told that if they fear imminent attack from a sexual predator to yell "FIRE!" for attention and help rather than "RAPE!", as the former is statistically more likely to get you assistance. The latter makes people too uncomfortable and scared to get involved. Same thing with Watkins I reckon. No person in authority wanted to be the first one to step up and face potential embarrassment if they were wrong. Easier to pretend they haven't heard the yelling and walk on by.

 

[Curious Me]

What really irks me is that Brittney already went through an ordeal when she was younger. Her whole family must have been aware of the case against her gma's bf. Now, we find out she was still a victim after that ordeal. Ask Chessie, she'll vouch that Britt and Derek were victims. So...

No one protected Brittney more after that. No one learned a lesson in the family and changed their ways. Other children still were abused beyond that point. Nobody in this bunch cared enough to protect the children.

 

[redfish]

Was it ever determined if Scott really did go to Tennessee on the Thursday after Britt was last seen? I have always suspected he may have removed her from the area. It really gave me a spark of hope way back in the beginning when the truck driver reported seeing a girl fitting her description hitch hiking in Tennessee. I get really mixed feelings about Scott.

 

[zwiebel]

Review this from 6/20/12 when Dustin Kent and Scott Wood were arrested.
http://www.fox10tv.com/news/two-men-arrested-for-sex-crimes

Arthur is with Baldwin Co Sheriff's Office.

"Captain Arthur said the juvenile victim in this case contacted the sheriff's office. Investigators called one of the men she accused in for questioning, and officials said the suspect confessed."
"Arthur said the suspect who confessed gave them the name of the second suspect in this case."

Yet we have this - http://www.fox10tv.com/news/special-report-missing-brittney
"It's a story that technically began February 26, 2012 when investigators said Brittney's uncle, Randall Scott Wood, called authorities to report the family sex abuse."

I understand that both of these could be accurate with different victims but is that the case? The first is a direct quote from LE. The second is not. I believe at this point, it was the same victim. If that is the case, which of these reports is correct or how else can both be correct? Could they have went in together?

This is really confusing. I wonder if it could have gone something like this:

Feb 2012: RSW is furious when he discovers that his victim - who he imagines adores him so much they would never tell he's abused them - has been abused by another family member. He reports that family member.

Mar/Apr/May 2012: Authorities spend months coaxing information from frightened victim. Abusers are going into panic mode about what victim may be revealing. And what Brittney might reveal as well. RSW begins to realize he might actually get named by the victim too, which he did not expect.

June 2012: Victim starts naming names and the first one is RSW, who gets called in and confesses. He wants to appear to be the 'good, honest guy' in amongst the bad bunch he knows are going to be charged later. He maybe wanted to present himself as the exception who only had one victim, and he was in 'love' with that victim, so it was different?

But I was thinking that if he had had another victim he abused in the past, who might come forward and tell of terrible abuse as well - that could have really spoilt his plan. If that victim had disappeared just before RSW got called in, it could have been really convenient for him. There would be nobody around to contradict his story of 'only one victim'.

Just thought - I should go check his charges. I can't recall if he has multiple victims, and if he has my theory above is kaputt!

 

[KateB]

Remember that in the earliest time references to two suspects, one could have been Donald and and the confessing one might have been Donald and the statements made by law enforcement are technically accurate, but we've interpreted it as the two suspects early in the investigation are the same two suspects arrested but it may not be. Scott's arrest seemed to surprise everyone the most.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Just thought - I should go check his charges. I can't recall if he has multiple victims, and if he has my theory above is kaputt!

Hi zwiebel. I snipped your post to this part to show Scott's charges. First, June 19th 2012, he's charged with sodomy, sexual abuse and incest. Then October 2013 he's charged with rape, sodomy and enticing a child into a building or dwelling

http://blog.al.com/live/2013/10/7_brittney_wood_family_members.html#incart_river_default

http://www.local15tv.com/template/c...ies/archive/2013/10/WFnx9w8e.xml#.Up1Hz9JDssI

I'm gonna assume Scott has more than one victim only because more victims came forward as the investigation continued.

Also, my own opinion based on nothing I've read or heard, is that Scott prefers young boys. Just one of those feelings I get about him. MOO :twocents:

 

[minusfour]

I've read before of Scott's infatuation with his victim, (or one of them?), but have missed how this is known, could somebody please fill me in? Thanks

 

[minusfour]

Remember that in the earliest time references to two suspects, one could have been Donald and and the confessing one might have been Donald and the statements made by law enforcement are technically accurate, but we've interpreted it as the two suspects early in the investigation are the same two suspects arrested but it may not be. Scott's arrest seemed to surprise everyone the most.

That is really clever, Kate, I have never even considered it, but why not?

 

[Eileen730]

I've read before of Scott's infatuation with his victim, (or one of them?), but have missed how this is known, could somebody please fill me in? Thanks

I believe that to be speculation!

 

[KateB]

Hi zwiebel. I snipped your post to this part to show Scott's charges. First, June 19th 2012, he's charged with sodomy, sexual abuse and incest. Then October 2013 he's charged with rape, sodomy and enticing a child into a building or dwelling

http://blog.al.com/live/2013/10/7_brittney_wood_family_members.html#incart_river_default

http://www.local15tv.com/template/c...ies/archive/2013/10/WFnx9w8e.xml#.Up1Hz9JDssI

I'm gonna assume Scott has more than one victim only because more victims came forward as the investigation continued.

Also, my own opinion based on nothing I've read or heard, is that Scott prefers young boys. Just one of those feelings I get about him. MOO :twocents:

The latest Oct 2013 arrest with the rape charge has to be a unrelated female due to the Alabama statute definition of rape and the lack of an incest charge. His other 2 October charges are not gender specific. But we can assume now Scott has at least 2 victims.

And the scenario zwiebel posted works up until 10/22/2013. I agree with all of it except for the confessing part. The confessing had to be done months before 6/2012 imo, I think any one of 3 - Donald, Dustin, Scott is the confessor that gave LE the 2nd suspect referred in the quote from LE 6/20/2012 but I'm still leaning that it was Donald and Dustin initially named by the victim and/or Scott and either one, DH or DK could have called foul on Scott's good guy hero/protector whistleblower act and told LE to look at him.