Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, prisoner, & Vicky Sue White, CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22 *Reward* #3

[Elley Mae]

Her Mother has to have information on her routine in the last few months. Dud she go out of town? Was she looking at beach properties? Why did she not stay at her home the nite or two before she left? What was she doing in the evenings the 4 or so weeks she had been with her Mother. If she was using the cop car as transportation and didn’t have car was she using Mothers car?

Jmo

 

[Laughing]

Although it's not the *ideal* way to RV, even my smallish rv has enough fresh water, grey water, & black water tank capacity to make it from one side of the continent to the other w/o dumping or refilling if I'm not wasteful. If a 3rd party were driving, CW & VW would never even have to exit the rv or be seen on any security cameras ever at any gas stops. We know she planned in advance, so I doubt money for gas to get to a distant state & hook up at a safe haven like at a gang member's house would be an issue. Once there, they're in their own self contained "tiny home" on wheels. I think this mode of escape carries the greatest likelihood of success.

Agree completely, a great way for them to travel & stay under the radar.

But do we know that either of them had any experience with an RV? You have to know how to operate the water system: potable/gray/black, the propane, the electricity, the smoke alarms....

BTW, ALL recipes for cooking in a camper begin with Disable Smoke Alarm. Brewing coffee sets that darn thing off!

Any report that either of them has used a camper or RV?

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[sds71]

Chad Hunt, with the Gulf Coast Regional Fugitive Task Force, says with the vehicle being found in Williamson County Tennessee, it has given them a more specific area to focus on in trying to find Casey White and Vicky White.

"Even though we are seven days after the fact of the vehicle being dumped, we have that foundation, we have that springboard starting point," said Hunt…

He says he isn't ruling out the possibility of Vicky potentially getting help from some familiar faces.

"She treated these inmates above par if you will. They had a lot of respect for her. Some of the things that we have to account and sit back and look at is 17 years' worth of contact with other inmates that are potentially out now. Is that another avenue that she’s exploiting? That’s something that we have to look at and we are looking at," said Hunt.

U.S. Marshal: Casey White, Vicky White could be relying on criminals for help staying free

Chad Hunt, with the Gulf Coast Regional Fugitive Task Force, says with the vehicle being found in Williamson County Tennessee, it has given them a more specific area to focus

www.waaytv.com

 

[Tealgrove]

I think they are headed for Alaska. As long as they don't speak out loud (accents) they could make it a long time up there.
MOO MOO MOO

The logistics of getting to Alaska are complicated.

By land they would have to enter Canada and drive through British Columbia. Doing this legally will not work. An illegal crossing would have to be figured out.

Second option, by air. Don’t think that’s possible.

Third option by sea. Again, not an easy task.

Once in Alaska, they won’t be able to camp or do the cabin in the woods thing without serious planning for the long cold winter ahead. I think these two died in the wool Alabamians would stick out like a sore thumb.

MOO

 

[Tabulator]

Chad Hunt, with the Gulf Coast Regional Fugitive Task Force, says with the vehicle being found in Williamson County Tennessee, it has given them a more specific area to focus on in trying to find Casey White and Vicky White.


"Even though we are seven days after the fact of the vehicle being dumped, we have that foundation, we have that springboard starting point," said Hunt…


He says he isn't ruling out the possibility of Vicky potentially getting help from some familiar faces.

"She treated these inmates above par if you will. They had a lot of respect for her. Some of the things that we have to account and sit back and look at is 17 years' worth of contact with other inmates that are potentially out now. Is that another avenue that she’s exploiting? That’s something that we have to look at and we are looking at," said Hunt.

U.S. Marshal: Casey White, Vicky White could be relying on criminals for help staying free

Chad Hunt, with the Gulf Coast Regional Fugitive Task Force, says with the vehicle being found in Williamson County Tennessee, it has given them a more specific area to focus

www.waaytv.com

Wow. This. This is one of the best thought-out responses to V.W. I have read. I would imagine that V.W. earned not only respect from the inmates, but a lot of goodwill. That goodwill might prove extremely valuable if she needed assistance in the escape and subsequent hiding out. Hmmmm...
It is ironic to me, though, with the whole country on alert and searching for C.W., he is still in a type of prison.

 

[Elley Mae]

'It was a sheriff's deputy and a yard full of police cars. They asked me if they had seen any suspicious persons or knew anything about the parked and abandoned vehicle at the end of the driveway.'

Woman who discovered Vicky White's car outside her house speaks out

Jackie Adams (at left), a school-bus driver in rural Tennessee, says she found the vehicle outside her home hours after the duo fled an Alabama prison 100 miles away.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Skigh]

Now, in THAT picture, she looks like someone who is serious about life and who could take care of herself. Much different look than the picture we have all seen of Vicky in her uniform.

I do still wonder how much experience she has in life skills and living away from her home environment. She was living close to her mother who cooked her evening meal and she had close contact with her mother in law. It would be interesting to know how many things she did independently...did she every go on holiday on her own or with close friends,did she have any hobbies she pursued outside the home?

Even if he is still taking his medication and behaving positively towards her I can see her finding it very difficult to be away from everything she has known.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I don't think it's been made clear what VW's relationship with her ex actually was before his death. I've read everything from them still just being on friendly terms, to them continuing to live together all those years. In any case, I think it's fair to say VW was involved in SOME level of corruption, as shown by her last day on the job.

This issue really bothers me as well..... Divorced for 16 years. i know so many folks divorced, but still living in their ol familiar home territory, so they just get used to seeing each other, knowing what each other does etc.... I just think we are all putting way to much into the relationship with her ex. To me, he was just ............ there. The problem is we know nothing about WHAT ELSE was in Vicky's life....

 

[SMK777]

This is actually day #10.​

More than a week after they disappeared, an Alabama inmate and former corrections officer have left few clues for investigators on their trail​

More than a week after they disappeared, an Alabama inmate and former corrections officer have left few clues for investigators on their trail | CNN

As the search continues for a missing former Alabama corrections officer and an inmate charged with murder, authorities remain in the dark on where the pair may have gone after the SUV they used after leaving the jail turned up little new information in the case.

www.cnn.com

 

[Curiousobserver]

I would like to know if the suv did break down or was that the destination, just seems odd that it would break down on what appears to be a dead end rd.

Jmo

It is a bit odd- I assume she has some means of navigation and didn't end up there accidently. It seems unlikely that they had car trouble on a dead end road in the middle of nowhere, then emptied the entire car and carried it off somewhere without anyone seeing them? Seems unlikely.

 

[zecats]

Vicky certainly is in a precarious position right now if she’s still alive. But if she deliberately and without coercion enabled CW to escape, she has put anyone he comes in contact with in extreme danger. I don’t want harm to come to her, but I’m very concerned about innocent bystanders who end up in CW’s way, probably thanks to her.
JMO

I wonder if that thought even crossed her mind (or her conscience) as she planned and enacted his escape. I'd hope as an employee on the side of the law (once) that killing someone would be abhorrent to her. Could be all out the window now though, as to what's needed to avoid capture and continue this road trip/escape.

Also the reports from those who live on the road where the abandoned Ford was found and the school bus driver who found it as she was returning home from a run and then called the sheriff, tow truck arriving soon after..how much time did they have to get out of there and/or carjack, hitch-hick or in someway find another ride?? They must have had a readily available second vehicle. IMHO

 

[Elley Mae]

Snipped by me.

According to an official with the U.S. Marshals, he also has a tattoo of eyeballs on the back of his head.

Search for escaped Alabama inmate, corrections officer enters day 10

Over 100 investigators are involved in the search for Vicky White and Casey White, according to WAFF. Border Patrol has been on alert since April 29.

www.mysuncoast.com

 

[zecats]

Woman who discovered Vicky White's car outside her house speaks out

Jackie Adams (at left), a school-bus driver in rural Tennessee, says she found the vehicle outside her home hours after the duo fled an Alabama prison 100 miles away.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Interesting article about the bus driver who found the car. Probably posted somewhere already, but wanted to back up my previous post.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

I think they are headed for Alaska. As long as they don't speak out loud (accents) they could make it a long time up there.
MOO MOO MOO

Wow, that would be a journey! Joseph Keenan May lifted a SS # from his step brother who died as a teen and fled to Alaska where he lived for 20 years. I don’t personally feel like CW and VW are headed for Alaska, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Smccat]

Now, in THAT picture, she looks like someone who is serious about life and who could take care of herself. Much different look than the picture we have all seen of Vicky in her uniform.

In that photograph with the uniform she is about 30-35 IMO. Wouldn't surprise me if it's when she first qualified and joined the prison service. I wonder why they've used it too be honest.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

It is a bit odd- I assume she has some means of navigation and didn't end up there accidently. It seems unlikely that they had car trouble on a dead end road in the middle of nowhere, then emptied the entire car and carried it off somewhere without anyone seeing them? Seems unlikely.

I’m still wondering if they picked up a second vehicle along the way and he followed her in that one until they dumped the orange car. Yes, she’d be risking that he would flee. But they may genuinely have formed a kind of bond and also she does bring value to him in being able to plan and retrieve supplies while drawing less attention than he may.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

Wow. This. This is one of the best thought-out responses to V.W. I have read. I would imagine that V.W. earned not only respect from the inmates, but a lot of goodwill. That goodwill might prove extremely valuable if she needed assistance in the escape and subsequent hiding out. Hmmmm...
It is ironic to me, though, with the whole country on alert and searching for C.W., he is still in a type of prison.

While I think they would try to keep the operation small and less discoverable, he makes some interesting points.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

The reason why carjacking is skyrocketing (aside from this being laxly prosecuted) is that modern cars, as in ones made in the last 15-20 years, are hard for an amateur to steal due to tech in the keys. It is way easier to surprise someone and carjack their car. The fact that we don't have authorities telling us, or even leaking, that someone reported a couple meeting the description carjacked a car in the vicinity of the abandoned burnt orange car, tells us things don't look good for the driver of a possibly carjacked vehicle.

if they had brains they would get out of that ridiculously conspicuous one in 200, burnt orange car and are in a basic boring black,white or silver suv of which there are millions in any region of the country.

Although in rural area such as where I live many still leave keys in the car. I have a push button start but I leave the fob in the car many days when I know I’m going back out. I know that may sound crazy to people in a forum like this or who live in a more populated area, but it’s commonplace here.

 

[SMK777]

In that photograph with the uniform she is about 30-35 IMO. Wouldn't surprise me if it's when she first qualified and joined the prison service. I wonder why they've used it too be honest.

Yes, you would think a recent picture would be a must for a fugitive from justice. And usually professional photos are taken every few years to update them. When the story first came out, people kept commenting on how very young she looked for 56. That’s because the picture is 20+ years old.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

IMO MOO

Could it be possible that…

1 - VW planned for a handsomely compensated accomplice to drive the orange SUV North from the shopping center location (and abandon it as was done) to serve as a red herring (as many here have speculated that is what that car is, a decoy)?

2 - Then she planned for a boat launch somewhere along the Tennessee River as a means to escape undetected with her 7 foot companion in the first few hours of her plan?

For example, I noticed the Quality Inn and shopping center where she swapped cars is right by the river. There is a marina and boat ramp about 10 minutes East from that location called Turtle Point.

[ETA: There is actually a Waterfront Marina and Public Boat Launch along the 72 highway heading East from the shopping center before the Turtle Point Marina. It is closer and also gives direct access to the Tennessee River. I attached a map.]

WHAT IF she bought a boat and planned to travel East along the Tennesse River until a point where they reached another marina. I don’t know where that would be exactly, but it seems one could travel in this manner along that river until Guntersville.

This method of escape would have bought them some time off the roads IF their plan had been discovered much sooner and LE was on the lookout for them.

VW could have made arrangements to have a 2nd getaway vehicle at a destination marina along the river. The boat could have been abandoned and nestled among other boats.
Then they could have gotten on the road South towards the Gulf. To get from Guntersville to Pensacola, FL is only about a 5hr drive.

With the time they bought themselves with the decoy, once reaching the coastal cities, they could have chartered a boat into Mexico or even headed further South into Florida and chartered a boat from there to an island destination.

Similarly, they could have eventually ditched the boat along the Tennessee River and continued heading East towards the Carolinas or Georgia coastlines in a vehicle. The driving distance is only about 7 hrs from Guntersville. Once again, the options open up to get to their destination by sea from there.

I find the detail that VW was very adamant about wanting to retire at a beach a very important detail in her planning. If she’s expecting a ‘go out in a blaze’ ending to her criminal life, then I think she definitely planned to live her last days with her toes in the sand and that is the direction she headed.

This is just all MOO IMO of course. I don’t know how plausible any of this is not knowing the area. I’m just tossing out possibilities of VW and CW’s escape plan as I sleuth.

While I don’t know her mentality, it seems to me like her level of planning suggests she’s trying to set up an escape and make a play for a life of freedom. Otherwise, I think she might’ve left the money from the sale of her house with her mother. Just my opinion. Could go either way!