GUILTY AL - Jack Girdner, 73, & DeJerinett twins, 9, found murdered, Hope Hull, 3 June 2012

[Soulmagent]

Where or if?

Still catching up and reading loosely.

I'm in tears. I so wanted these kids to be ok.

Me too Cubby I was scrollling and reading and taggin important links because I know how fast links get buried. As I get to the last three pages, I was all upset and I havent even got to reading the social media links and the underground reports .

Still have not seen where the bodies were confirmed as being the twins, but I feel at this point hope is all but gone.

 

[gitana1]

I have a story-but I don't want it to sound off the wall- but I kid you not--my husband bought me a 93 white Mercedes(almost the same thing in this case) for mother's day last month-its used-but its in good shape-he brought it home and I said-I DON'T WANT IT-Carjacking came to right to my mind when I saw it-I still have not driven it!!

Really! Wow, I hadn't thought of older-model Mercedes as being targets for car jackings. They are cool, so I can see it now. That was kind of a smart thing for you to think of. We feel safe in our cars, but we can be vulnerable.

 

[HeinekenMan]

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/3023414081.html

 

[TexasLil]

The reporter replied to a question and indicated the scene in the photo is about five miles away from Mr. Girdner's house.

https://www.facebook.com/ReporterKristaLittlefield#!/ReporterKristaLittlefield

 

[gitana1]

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/3023414081.html

Is that the make and model and year of Mr. Girdner's car? If so, call the police. Or, are you just showing what they are going for? That's a lot of cash.

 

[HeinekenMan]

I have a story-but I don't want it to sound off the wall- but I kid you not--my husband bought me a 93 white Mercedes(almost the same thing in this case) for mother's day last month-its used-but its in good shape-he brought it home and I said-I DON'T WANT IT-Carjacking came to right to my mind when I saw it-I still have not driven it!!

I will take it. LOL. We have been a one-car family for four years. We had a Corolla and a Cavalier. For a few years, we had two car payments. We finally paid off the Cavalier. Then an old man pulled out in front of the Corolla. The insurance money paid off the loan with $2,000 left over. A month later, the engine blew on the Cavalier on the way home from work. GM had been involved in a class action suit due to engine, water pump and radiator problems in several models, including mine. But that was not settled yet. So I sold the car for next to nothing. Then we drove a rental car to a dealership and plopped down $2,000 for a new Mazda3, our first new car. I love the Mazda, but we've had to do a lot of shuffling to get two kids to their baseball games, etc. With student loan payments and a sharp drop in freelance clients, I haven't been able to buy another vehicle. But I'm hoping to get a teaching job in the fall. Cross your fingers. Right now, they're talking about big layoffs in the school district.

Sorry to go off-topic. Rough day around here!

 

[Kimster]

I am so very sad. :tears: I really thought they would be coming home safe.

:rose:

 

[Patty G]

Krista Littlefield‏@Krista_CBS8 2m

Just left the missing twins home. Their mother Terrye Moorer said she is "devastated" and didn't feel up to talking to us on camera.
https://twitter.com/#!/Krista_CBS8

 

[HeinekenMan]

Is that the make and model and year of Mr. Girdner's car? If so, call the police. Or, are you just showing what they are going for? That's a lot of cash.

I believe that's the same year, make and model. But I don't know that his was a convertible. The car I saw on the road a few days ago was a sedan, and I'm sure it was much newer than a 1988.

 

[beach]

Cant work out the huggy pics, but hope you're ok !

Thank you (to everyone!) :heartluv:

I better get a grip though or they aren't gonna give me any more updates. lol

My boss asked me just a minute ago, "[beach], other than as a compassionate human being do you have a special relationship with any of these people? Just concerned because you haven't been yourself ...teary, since you walked in the door this morning."

That and I haven't gotten crap accomplished at work today. Okay, well I did put out a couple of fires that I HAD to put out. I mean I did a little something, ya know.

 

[ohiogirl]

The reporter replied to a question and indicated the scene in the photo is about five miles away from Mr. Girdner's house.

https://www.facebook.com/ReporterKristaLittlefield#!/ReporterKristaLittlefield

I think she said about 5 minutes away. jmo:seeya:

 

[SyraKelly]

Really! Wow, I hadn't thought of older-model Mercedes as being targets for car jackings. They are cool, so I can see it now. That was kind of a smart thing for you to think of. We feel safe in our cars, but we can be vulnerable.

My friends think I am crazy and I know I hurt my husband's feelings-which I did not mean to do-but they don't read the stories I do!

 

[Donjeta]

Is that the make and model and year of Mr. Girdner's car? If so, call the police. Or, are you just showing what they are going for? That's a lot of cash.

It's not the same one if the photos they showed earlier were of Mr. Girdner's actual car, it's not a convertible.
Photo in the video.
http://www.wsfa.com/story/18699945/montgomery-twins-still-missing-mother-speaks

Mr. Girdner's white 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL is also missing. It has an Alabama license plate reading A-Y-5-0-7-9-0.

 

[HeinekenMan]

I believe one report yesterday described the location as four miles south of the interstate off state highway 21. Clearly, it's not just off the highway. It's down a dirt road. I see a lot of dirt roads in the area southwest of the home. This might be a dirt road just east of 21.

 

[wasalurker]

I will just say that not every man out there who tries to help children and their mom is a "bad" guy. Seems like Mr Jack (as most people in the article comments call him) was just a truly caring individual.

And what about Big Brothers and Big Sisters? What about mentors?

And I personally know a gentlemen who is not the bio dad of 2 children but friends with the mom with many many years (no dating, no affair, no sexual feelings of any kind - just friends) who many would swear was the childrens father the way the kids and him are. They have not had a dad for many many years and this guy is their "father figure". They talk to him constantly, they spend weekends with him and his wife, they invite him to sporting and school events, they WANT to spend time with him. And I know for a fact 100% if not 200% that he would lay his life down for these children. And they are not his. But he is the next best thing....he is stability for them, he is a mentor to them, he is inspiration as to what they can acheive, he is a role model for them....he is everything that a dad should be - yet not their dad, or their stepdad, or even a blood relative. He has just known them since the day they were born and determined that they would have someone who they could trust and who would be there for them whenever, whereever....he is a true good guy. His wife married him knowing that these were not his children, yet he would never ever walk away from them.

I remember the saying "it takes a village to raise a child" Whatever happened to that? It sometimes seems that when someone is being a great friend, a help to the family, trying to make sure the kids are ok, etc that the "red flags" go up and they must have an ulterior motive. I truly believe that there are alot of decent, caring, helpful people out there. More than the true low lifes that do have ulterior motives, yet they are overlooked and suspicion cast upon them as soon as something happens. How many people went WTH for mom to have someone watching the kids? To me it seems that this man should be applauded for helping out and caring about children who were not his.
He is a victim in this terrible tragedy also.
Prayers for all of them and mom.

 

[Donjeta]

JMO but it's only natural to wonder if somebody might be a creepy perv if the news says he has disappeared with a couple of kids that don't belong to him. Sometimes it might be wrong but a lot of times it'd be exactly right, and we can only make educated guesses if there is no information.

 

[CarmelEyesD]

I was really hoping we would find out the old man took a wrong turn somewhere, got lost and he and the children would be found safe.....

 

[longtallcold]

Thank you (to everyone!) :heartluv:

I better get a grip though or they aren't gonna give me any more updates. lol

My boss asked me just a minute ago, "[beach], other than as a compassionate human being do you have a special relationship with any of these people? Just concerned because you haven't been yourself ...teary, since you walked in the door this morning."

That and I haven't gotten crap accomplished at work today. Okay, well I did put out a couple of fires that I HAD to put out. I mean I did a little something, ya know.

I know what you mean...not that we can "be immune" after reading all these cases, but I think sometimes it comes to a head and there is that one case (be it proximity to yourself, or other "connection" we feel) that just gets to us - especially when the outcome is so far from what we had hoped.

 

[HeinekenMan]

I left WS last August with a long, detailed explanation of my frustrations after they found that little 3-year-old girl's body in a river in southeast Missouri. BreAnn Rodriguez could have been my daughter. She was just a sweet little girl outside riding her bike. The neighbor killed her. He was a married man with kids. That was the case that just tore me apart. This case is very similar. So many of these victims are the sweetest, most wonderful people. I don't know how I'm holding it together now. At some point over the next few days, I'll probably break down over this case. Right now, I'm just too pissed off to let it get to me.

 

[EGirl]

Prayers to the family and friends of these missing twins and the man who was caring for them.

And thanks, EGirl, for the link to the bookstore article. I see that the man was having a phone conversation with a girlfriend while sitting in the children's section. I'm guessing he was "really" asked to leave because he was being rude and obnoxious. It's too bad they didn't just politely ask him to take his phone call outside or to the cafe where it would have been more appropriate. I'm also guessing that the customer who complained wasn't really concerned about him being a pedo as much as annoyed with his rudeness. But I wasn't there, so I don't know.

Why does there have to be more to the story? Why must he have been being obnoxious? He was in a bookstore, not a library and was described as 'quietly' talking.

There are other links to this story that have the employee admitting that it is an unwritten rule. The employee even asked him if he wasn't aware of pedophiles stalking children in bookstores. Obviously, the only reason he was removed was becasue he was a man.