Found Deceased AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from birthday party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019 #4

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I think he just walks like someone who has big pants that are falling down.
Imo
Me, too. I've watched the PC several times and they stop the video at the point where he engages with the kids. His pants are hanging low on his body. You can see the crotch of his pants hanging low, making his legs look really short.

I know there are older men who wear their pants low on their hips but I see it more on younger men. IMO
 
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I feel bad about giving you a like on such a

Does anyone know the business that is to the left of the daycare? (as per google map posted) air conditioner on roof? BPD released fb video, from road the tree the children followed POI and disappeared . That tree is to right of this building. The road children were on is a cul d sac, I think POI parked in this buildings parking lot. He would only have to pass one or two apartments. If he parked anywhere else he would have to pass several. JMO
I am working on finding this location. Will have to wait until tomorrow as the winds are picking up and we may loss electricity. Good Night, be safe. Bring this little one home
 
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The family was sooooo confident she wouldn’t go with a stranger.
Who does the other kid belong to?

LE released no information on the other child or family. MOO, he may want to protect them. I'm sure life in this community is a struggle everyday, after this.

I noticed in the 30 min.visit video of the complex. No one is outside. I feel this place is usually a bee hive of activity.

My stress level would be out the roof. Can even imagine.

All just my opinion.....
 
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OCT 18, 2019
Prayer service for Kamille
[...]

Saint James African Methodist Episcopal Church near Tom Brown Village has invited everyone to join them and pray for Kamille's safe return.

The service will start at 10:00 a.m. Saturday.

The community will have the opportunity to write notes of encouragement to the Mckinney family and to law enforcement.
 
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If they were loose she literally could have been yanked right out of them IMO
Was it ever reported what type of shoes they were? Sneakers? Sandals? Flip-flops or Crocs -something loose fitting could def have slipped off of her when she was picked up. Or maybe she was playing in the grass and was already barefoot. JMO
 
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I thought maternal grandmother was the lady next to Cupcake’s mom in the live video shot by the newswoman yesterday morning. She’s the same lady that was sitting with Cupcake’s brother in that heartbreaking video where he talks about missing his sister. Heavyset lady with short frosted wig.

ETA: Went back and checked. Lady I described IS maternal grandmother. She is identified by newsman prior to showing video with brother’s interview.
Thank you! I was wondering who she was.
 
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I am thinking they didn't try to grab the other 3 year old (although they might have planned to) because perhaps that is when the brother stepped into the picture, looking for Cupcake and then he saw the moment she was put in the car.
They probably took off then and left the other child behind. Maybe also this other child ran off a bit and they couldn't risk running after the child (since one was in the car and only one guy did the grabbing it seems) and just got CC and left. MOO

Also depends on what the abductor was seeking in a child. imo
Perhaps KM more closely fit his choice of child.
 
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Watch the video again. The first man comes from the right hand corner on the pavement. The second man comes out of the trees. MOO

Insignificant, they’re looking for the first guy.
 
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Was it ever reported what type of shoes they were? Sneakers? Sandals? Flip-flops or Crocs -something loose fitting could def have slipped off of her when she was picked up. Or maybe she was playing in the grass and was already barefoot. JMO
I haven’t read anything that I remember about the shoes other than they were found IMO
 
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Did u happen to see shoes? I think they r on. But could be my mind playing tricks on me. How and why did they end up in parking lot?
I really tried to avoid looking at the kids at all and just focus on the men. I was having a very difficult time looking at the kids knowing that she vanished shortly after that.
 
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From the article:

Chief Smith said they plan to do a few searches using K-9s in areas where a few of the persons of interest frequent.

Me: a few of the POI? Ugh I have to listen to presser again! I thought it was the 1 suspect who frequented search area.

Yes, a short clip of KM and another child and 2 men. Pommymommy did a nice time line a few pages back.

Mo
 
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Here's the video we are discussing showing the children and the two men

Bump
 
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I am working on finding this location. Will have to wait until tomorrow as the winds are picking up and we may loss electricity. Good Night, be safe. Bring this little one home

A Church is adjacent to the day care.

Also, why are folks getting fixated on the man who the children follow? The police are looking for the FIRST guy.
 
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Candy or a puppy is enough to entice any three-year-old, unfortunately.

If a woman (the girlfriend?) was in the vehicle - or standing by it - "see that lady over there, she's got the candy/puppy".
A woman may seem less intimidating for children to happily go to.
 
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A Church is adjacent to the day care.

Also, why are folks getting fixated on the man who the children follow? The police are looking for the FIRST guy.
First guy is described as a potential witness, not a suspect.
 
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Sorry, I don't recall seeing that in this case. Perhaps you are thinking of Dulce or Ahlora's case? They were both taken from playgrounds. All I remember seeing about Cupcake is that she was at a birthday party in a parking lot of the apts prior to disappearing. But I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time :D ). MOO.
I feel like a Dweeb. I don't know why I thought there was a playground or where I got that from. I know they said children at the party were playing outside- perhaps I did mix up my cases?

Sorry for the wrong info, folks.
 
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