AL - Karen Shahan, 53, murdered, Homewood, 23 July 2013 #2

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.wkrg.com/link/677643/richard-shahan-electronic-monitoring-order

Electronic Monitoring Order

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Jesus, the One and only: Babies-Kindergarten leader's guide (Based on the study for adults by Beth Moore). 2001. by Melinda Mahand and Richard Shahan ...

 

[SCHMAE]

http://thehomewoodstar.com/news/homewood-pastor-pleads-not-guilty-in-wife’s-death/

The 54-year-old children’s minister appeared before Jefferson County Judge Laura Petro and entered a “not guilty” plea to the charges that he stabbed his wife and cut her throat. Judge Petro also heard motions from both the prosecution and defense. Shahan’s defense attorney, John Lentine, filed a motion asking for clarification of the indictment against his client and whether the prosecution will argue that Shahan did not act alone in the murder. The prosecution did not answer this motion.

What ? I had no idea that was even a possibility !

 

[Deleted member 102539]

R.I.P. :heartbeat:

 

[PatEl]

WOW! Court hasn't even started yet this morning and the bombshells are already coming from the reporters on the scene:

Marissa Mitchell
‏@MarissaMtchll Prosecutors: Emails show Shahan was involved with people out of state, country for more than a year before wife's death #liveon3340


Marissa Mitchell
@MarissaMtchll Prosecutors: Emails show Shahan battled depression, felt trapped in his marriage while having outside relationship with a man #liveon3340


Marissa Mitchell @MarissaMtchll
Prosecutors: Text messages show Karen Shahan knew of her husband's preference for men and attempts to conceal it #liveon3340


Marissa Mitchell @MarissaMtchll
Prosecutors: An email references Shahan saying his wife's death was an answer to his prayer #liveon3340 http://www.abc3340.com/story/290031...ormer-homewood-pastor-accused-of-killing-wife …


Marissa Mitchell @MarissaMtchll
Prosecutors: Another email shows Shahan asking about British attny who could help him marry a man and gain permanent immigration status

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

WOW! Court hasn't even started yet this morning and the bombshells are already coming from the reporters on the scene:

Marissa Mitchell
‏@MarissaMtchll Prosecutors: Emails show Shahan was involved with people out of state, country for more than a year before wife's death #liveon3340


Marissa Mitchell
@MarissaMtchll Prosecutors: Emails show Shahan battled depression, felt trapped in his marriage while having outside relationship with a man #liveon3340


Marissa Mitchell @MarissaMtchll
Prosecutors: Text messages show Karen Shahan knew of her husband's preference for men and attempts to conceal it #liveon3340


Marissa Mitchell @MarissaMtchll
Prosecutors: An email references Shahan saying his wife's death was an answer to his prayer #liveon3340 http://www.abc3340.com/story/290031...ormer-homewood-pastor-accused-of-killing-wife …


Marissa Mitchell @MarissaMtchll
Prosecutors: Another email shows Shahan asking about British attny who could help him marry a man and gain permanent immigration status

Thank you so much for keeping us updated on the trial! :tyou:

Interesting stuff, already! :what:

 

[BhamGurl]

Court filing released this morning. I couldn't believe that she will killed while sitting in a chair, eating and watching television.
(That info was new to me as I had heard most of the other information through rumors.)

http://www.wvtm13.com/blob/view/-/32864158/data/2/-/j3oopsz/-/Shahan-emails-court-document.pdf

 

[wfgodot]

Thanks, all, for keeping us updated. Seems so long ago I saw this brutal sad story and started the thread.

 

[Fairy1]

http://www.myfoxal.com/story/290054...or-former-al-pastor-charged-with-wifes-murder

This story has a link within of the court docs related to today's hearing. I couldn't open the link provided by BhamGurl so not sure if you all have seen it. Fascinating.

 

[i.b.nora]

Finally!

From: http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/05/homewood_pastors_wife_cited_hu.html

"Lamb laid out this account of Richard Shahan's movements on the day of Karen's death:

Shahan traveled to Franklin, Tenn., for a vacation and planned to visit their two sons, one in Nashville and the other in Kentucky. After reserving a room at a hotel, he turned his phone off at 3:25 p.m. and bought something at Wal-Mart shortly afterward.

During an interview, he said he watched two movies in Franklin, but in a later interview he said he returned to his Birmingham home to retrieve a breathing machine. Driving from the Franklin, Tenn., hotel to Birmingham takes approximately three hours.

Based on digital records, his activity resumed at 2:30 a.m. the next day when he opened his hotel door.

Karen Shahan returned home from work around 9 p.m. and was found dead the next day. Richard Shahan denies seeing Karen that day and has maintained his innocence in her death."​

 

[i.b.nora]

I was looking for a post I made on the first thread for this case, in the very early stages, long before Richard's arrest. I couldn't find the post I was looking for but I started reading and its interesting to see what we were thinking early on. The thread starts with the initial crime and ends with his arrest at the airport before he was shipped back to Birmingham.

The thread includes posts from a variety of people who personally knew the Shahans, including his Pastor friend, people with knowledge of how Baptist missions work, people who live in and around Homewood and Birmingham and lots of people who were very suspicious of the husband from virtually the beginning. And, even some people who have recently been banned! 🚯 😜

In light of the new information, I found it interesting to go back and see what was being said as it all unfolded. And, since there is only one prior thread of about 1,000 posts, its a manageable read.

Anyhow, the first thread is locked and located somewhere deep in the bowels of Websleuths but if you would like to access it, here is the link:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ESTED-for-Brutal-slaying-of-wife-Karen-Shahan

 

[jennapuppy]

subscribing...

 

[colette]

subscribing...

At the top of every thread there is a "thread tools" on the top right. Click on that and then click on subscribe. It works for every thread.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Thanks for the ideas IB & Colette.....I followed this story until he was arrested and then you know how it goes....life interrupted. Glad to see the link and that I can subscribe to the first thread as well. Will plan on re-reading the first thread this weekend. Some pastor, huh?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...emails-pray-wait-wife-death-article-1.2214805

Alabama pastor’s email to boyfriend: ‘I pray and wait’ for wife’s death


Birmingham’s First Baptist Church has cut ties with the pastor since his arrest.

Shahan’s lawyers appeared without him on Thursday at a pre-trial hearing, Al.com reported.

They claimed prosecutors are trying to “slander” the preacher with sordid tales of infidelity.

“This case is going to be tried on fact and proof — not on some sexual orientation, not on whether there was fidelity or infidelity in the marriage," defense attorney John Lentine told Al.com.

Shahan’s trial is expected to begin in 2016.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/05/homewood_pastors_wife_cited_hu.html#incart_2box

Homewood pastor's wife cited husband's affairs with men in email before she died, prosecutors say

Before she was killed in July 2013, Karen Shahan sent an email saying she knew of her husband's sexual preferences and his attempts to carry on surreptitious romantic relationships with two men outside of Alabama, according to prosecutors.

Witnesses, numerous emails and statements from Shahan himself demonstrate that he was involved in romantic relationships with a man in Nashville and another in Europe, Deputy District Attorney Patrick Lamb wrote.

In the document filed Wednesday, prosecutors say that email and text message conversations between Richard Shahan and his two "paramours" include explicit sexual statements, as well as a reference to Karen's death:

 

[i.b.nora]

From the Fox link above:

http://www.myfoxal.com/story/290054...or-former-al-pastor-charged-with-wifes-murder

I found the items I bolded below interesting:

"Shahan was not in court on Thursday morning for the pre-trial hearing because the judge excused him since it was a brief matter. His attorneys asked prosecutors for information about past break-ins at the Shahan home.

The document filed by the state also included more details about how Karen Shahan died. The defense is arguing someone broke into the couple's home and killed Karen Shahan."

*

"Defense attorneys claim there is other evidence the state hasn't responded to, including a foot print found on a broken door in the home, semen found on Karen Shahan's body and also records of other recent break-ins in the Shahan's neighborhood."​

- Past break-ins at the Shahan home? I don't recall that.

- I guess they mean someone other then Richard broke into the house?

- And, didn't we actually look at all the break-ins and events in the general neighborhood area of the Shahan home and found nothing even remotely similar?

- And, semen found on the body? Huh?

Little by little, I suppose one day we will learn the whole story.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

From the Fox link above:

http://www.myfoxal.com/story/290054...or-former-al-pastor-charged-with-wifes-murder

I found the items I bolded below interesting:

"Shahan was not in court on Thursday morning for the pre-trial hearing because the judge excused him since it was a brief matter. His attorneys asked prosecutors for information about past break-ins at the Shahan home.

The document filed by the state also included more details about how Karen Shahan died. The defense is arguing someone broke into the couple's home and killed Karen Shahan."

*

"Defense attorneys claim there is other evidence the state hasn't responded to, including a foot print found on a broken door in the home, semen found on Karen Shahan's body and also records of other recent break-ins in the Shahan's neighborhood."​

- Past break-ins at the Shahan home? I don't recall that.

- I guess they mean someone other then Richard broke into the house?

- And, didn't we actually look at all the break-ins and events in the general neighborhood area of the Shahan home and found nothing even remotely similar?

- And, semen found on the body? Huh?

Little by little, I suppose one day we will learn the whole story.

BBM...

I missed this bit of informationnn

:waitasec:

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I didn't know until now, RS returned from Franklin to his home (3h driving time) to get a breathing machine. At 2.30h in the night he was seen in Franklin on camera, when he opened his room in his "vacation" hotel. In the afternoon before he turned his cellphone off until he came back to his hotel.
Yes, okay - vacation, hotel, Franklin, planned visits to his sons, 6h drive back to get a breathing machine, odd shopping with cellphone and without cellphone ("off"), returning to his home without seeing Karen, quite by accident and in addition a burglar and murderer in his home after he left - I believe all this BS.

I also didn't know about semen. Isn't that easy to clarify, whether it was his or not? IF his, he may be more "ill" than thought before. IF it wasn't his, then I would think, he had help of a strong man (also "ill"). IMO

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Richard Lee Shahan, 53, was arrested on January 1 as he boarded a plane from Nashville to Germany, six months after the body of his wife, Karen, was found at their house in Homewood.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-Europe-marry-boyfriend.html#ixzz3ZcgtAyyx
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One boyfriend in Nashville and one in Ireland - now I can understand why RS wanted to fly from Nashville.


Witnesses, numerous emails and statements from Shahan himself demonstrate that he was involved in romantic relationships with a man in Nashville and another in Europe, Deputy District Attorney Patrick Lamb wrote.