Found Deceased AL - Paighton Houston, 29, left bar with 2 men, Birmingham, 20 Dec 2019

[bestill]

My mind is spinning now. Praying LE hasn't been on a wild goose chase. Do we know if the friend called her family and reported her missing or did her family call looking for Paighton first?

 

[Jaydee0158]

Or mistaken. We don't know how long PH and her co-worker were at the Tin Roof establishment or what state her friend was in that evening. From PH's Vemeo, I believe that PH is a smoker. She may have seen PH walk outside one or ten times Friday night to smoke and if she was not called upon to account what she saw until the following day her recall might be off. MOO

How many people leave the indoor stage area to go to the outside stage area to have a smoke? Tin Roof Bar | Birmingham

 

[Crimechick27]

Ok... So LE can't seem to confirm the existence of the two heavyset black men that must have stood out that night. We have confirmation that this information was included in the missing persons report filed by her brother and father. So this is second hand information coming from the last person known to be with Paighton... The co-worker/friend.

So if this is true, why would the coworker go home, see that Paighton's car is still parked outside, go inside and promptly get to sleep and not notice the text from Paighton until morning??? Knowing Paighton left with two strangers before she did, she's not home and you just go to sleep? What?

www.wbrc.com/2019/12/27/reward-offered-missing-trussville-woman/

So much this! ☝

 

[Deleted member 110058]

Ok... So LE can't seem to confirm the existence of the two heavyset black men that must have stood out that night. We have confirmation that this information was included in the missing persons report filed by her brother and father. So this is second hand information coming from the last person known to be with Paighton... The co-worker/friend.

So if this is true, why would the coworker go home, see that Paighton's car is still parked outside, go inside and promptly get to sleep and not notice the text from Paighton until morning??? Knowing Paighton left with two strangers before she did, she's not home and you just go to sleep? What?

www.wbrc.com/2019/12/27/reward-offered-missing-trussville-woman/

Where in this article does it state that the friend went home, saw the car and did not contact the Houston family until the next morning? Was this information confirmed?

 

[Crimechick27]

What in the heck has LE been doing for the last 10 days?

They might have been on a wild goose chase looking for 2 men who don’t exist!

 

[ChuckInHouston]

My apologies for repeating the argument rumor.

Thus far it sounds like the only real info we have, is that she was at the bar with co workers. I have found it strange that none of the co workers have been interviewed, or come out to speak on the night she went missing.

 

[UnderTheSouthernCross]

if it turns out no one can confirm that she was last seen w those gentlemen, who would have access and reason to text the friend the disturbing message....

If the friend's information about PH leaving the Tin Roof with two heavy-set men is now being called into question, is there any reason to believe that she received a text at all? Has LE at least verified the text? It's quite odd that someone who was at a bar with live music at 10.30p was already home and asleep by 12.15a; and also that when she got home and saw PH's car still there that she didn't call immediately if only to say "get this car out of my driveway."
The story is getting murkier every minute.

 

[cvaldez1975]

My apologies for repeating the argument rumor.

Thus far it sounds like the only real info we have, is that she was at the bar with co workers. I have found it strange that none of the co workers have been interviewed, or come out to speak on the night she went missing.

I'm going to point out an argument may have happened, but it has not been shared by verified sources or LE. so we rent supposed to discuss it as fact. however, ppl who know the parties may have shared it on social media and we aren't supposed to discuss that. i don't know, i personally haven't seen it but i've been scarce for a few days.

 

[JusMeJim]

Whaaat?! The men have not been ID! Forgive me everyone as I am generally FIRMLY in LE's corner, but what in the heck have they been doing for the last 11 days?

White it might mean that they have not been identified at all, I think what it means is that they have no publicly been identified. If LE knows their identity, but they have been cleared then there is no reason to throw their names out there to the sharks.

 

[ChuckInHouston]

If the friend's information about PH leaving the Tin Roof with two heavy-set men is now being called into question, is there any reason to believe that she received a text at all? Has LE at least verified the text? It's quite odd that someone who was at a bar with live music at 10.30p was already home and asleep by 12.15a; and also that when she got home and saw PH's car still there that she didn't call immediately if only to say "get this car out of my driveway."
The story is getting murkier every minute.

Many strange disappearances stares with red herrings.

 

[cvaldez1975]

White it might mean that they have not been identified at all, I think what it means is that they have no publicly been identified. If LE knows their identity, but they have been cleared then there is no reason to throw their names out there to the sharks.

i read that there is no footage of her leaving w 2 heavyset black men.

 

[Peppery]

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (WBRC) - Sergeant Johnny Williams with the Birmingham Police Department said investigators have reviewed surveillance video from a bar where Paighton Houston was last seen and have not found anyone matching the description of the two men she is believed to have left with.

Officers believe Houston willingly left the Tin Roof bar with two heavy set black men on Friday, December 20, based on information provided in the missing persons report.

Houston’s family said she was at the bar that night with friends from work. One of those friends contacted Houston’s family and told them she left the bar with the two men and appeared to do so willing, according to Houston’s brother, Evan.

The friend also shared a text message she said she received from Houston that said, “IDK who I am with so if I call please answer. I feel in trouble.”

B’ham Police: Surveillance video in Paighton Houston case does not show 2 men she reportedly left with

Very concerning. I hope everyone who was there on that night looks through their phones to see if the two men may appear in the background. It doesn’t look like a large place, it’s really hard for me to imagine ONLY the friend saw them and they aren’t in video anywhere....moo

 

[sraybella]

Where in this article does it state that the friend went home, saw the car and did not contact the Houston family until the next morning? Was this information confirmed?

I have seen this mentioned a few times in this thread and keep asking the same question. I have not seen this reported by MSM. IMO, at this point, it’s another rumor until / unless verified by msm / approved source.

 

[Deleted member 110058]

They might have been on a wild goose chase looking for 2 men who don’t exist!

Hard for me to believe that LE would put the last 10 days energy into looking for two men based upon someone's drunken recollection.

 

[Frenchie4]

Where in this article does it state that the friend went home, saw the car and did not contact the Houston family until the next morning? Was this information confirmed?

It's in all the early reports that the text came in at about 12:15??( Don't have it in front of me) and the friend didn't immediately call or text back because she didn't see it until morning. It's also been widely circulated by family/friends that Paighton didn't drive, her car was left at the coworker's house.

So I'm putting those bits together and wondering why the coworker just went on to sleep. That's strange.

 

[sraybella]

DBM - duplicate

 

[Peppery]

I've never seen where LE stated she was on camera leaving the bar. Only the coworkers account. And no one else has come forward with confirmation that they saw her there, at least publicly.

Paighton's sil and other family members have posted in the FB group and are correcting rumors/false info. They are the ones discussing the debit card found. I'll see if I can pull a news article.

If this is an official family-run FB group, you can post a link.

 

[UnderTheSouthernCross]

It's in all the early reports that the text came in at about 12:15??( Don't have it in front of me) and the friend didn't immediately call or text back because she didn't see it until morning. It's also been widely circulated by family/friends that Paighton didn't drive, her car was left at the coworker's house.

So I'm putting those bits together and wondering why the coworker just went on to sleep. That's strange.

IMHO using the word "co-worker" instead of "friend" is becoming more and more appropriate the more time goes by.

 

[Seattle1]

“We’re pretty much in the same place that we were when we first reported her missing,” Williams told the outlet. “We don’t have any other leads. We’ve exhausted the ones we’ve had to this point, but we’ll continue to investigate and try to develop new leads.” bbm

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (WBRC) - Sergeant Johnny Williams with the Birmingham Police Department said investigators have reviewed surveillance video from a bar where Paighton Houston was last seen and have not found anyone matching the description of the two men she is believed to have left with.

Officers believe Houston willingly left the Tin Roof bar with two heavy set black men on Friday, December 20, based on information provided in the missing persons report.

^^bbm

For what it's worth, my experience is the closer a missing person investigation begins to escalete to endangered or criminal, the more pertinent or relevant information from LE becomes. Clearly LE has known much more than ever shared or reported by the media.

I think we can now see how the initial reports that HB left with two strangers, surveillance not that helpful, and we've exhausted our leads -- to the latest statement by LE that the surveillance video does not in-fact depict anybody matching the description of the two men HB allegedly left the bar with, this should leave us more confident that LE has not been sitting back here but actually verifying the account provided in the missing person report while filtering any tips received over the past 10+ days.

Also, I think now that this defining information about the surveillance video has been made public, there will be more tips coming in from other patrons that may have seen something suspicious or not -- including when PH left the bar if any variance in the 10:45 pm time reported.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 110058]

It's in all the early reports that the text came in at about 12:15??( Don't have it in front of me) and the friend didn't immediately call or text back because she didn't see it until morning. It's also been widely circulated by family/friends that Paighton didn't drive, her car was left at the coworker's house.

So I'm putting those bits together and wondering why the coworker just went on to sleep. That's strange.

Thanks Frenchie! I guess I would like to know if the info about the friend not texting back until the morning has been verified. Not just from comments on FB but from an official source. Did her parents give that info in one of their FB posts?