GUILTY AL - Savannah Hardin, 9, forced to run til she died, Etowah Co., 17 Feb 2012

  • #141
http://www.waff.com/story/17024883/judge-may-unseal-documents-in-hardin-death-case

Judge may unseal documents in Hardin death case

ATTALLA, AL (WAFF) - A judge could unseal some documents in the case of 9-year-old Savannah Hardin's murder.



Monday, Judge Allen Millican will announce whether the court documents pertaining to Savannah's death will be unsealed.

Only because Nancy Grace's staff lawyers are wanting to give her something to talk about on her show :)
 
  • #142
Only because Nancy Grace's staff lawyers are wanting to give her something to talk about on her show :)

That's fine with me. I'll be watching.
 
  • #143
I just went over every page.
My eyes are crossed.

Not much info.

Just back and forth between Savannah's dad and mom and back and forth between Savannah's dad and stepmother.

Divorce docs
Child custody docs
Child support docs
Accusations of abuse of Savannah by her bio mom.
Accusations of abuse of Savannah's little brother by his mom (the evil stepmother)
Accusations of mental illnesses, verbal abuse, physical abuse between the adults.

A forged deed transfer

Distinction distinction distinction

Savannah never had a chance.
I pray for her little brother and the new baby.


JMO
 
  • #144
It's good that Ala. is getting a little sunshine on these cases....the more everybody knows what's going on the better we know what to look for and maybe prevent it from happening.
 
  • #145
2 charged in death of Ala girl forced to run

"Authorities say 9-year-old Savannah Hardin died after being forced to run for three hours as punishment for having lied to her grandmother about eating candy bars. Severely dehydrated, the girl had a seizure and died days later. Now, her grandmother and stepmother who police say meted out the punishment were taken to jail Wednesday and face murder charges.
Witnesses told deputies Savannah was told to run and not allowed to stop for three hours on Friday, an Etowah County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman said. The girl's stepmother, 27-year-old Jessica Mae Hardin, called police at 6:45 p.m., telling them Savannah was having a seizure and was unresponsive."

IMO, there's more to this story. I think this child went through something even more horrific - starvation and neglect.
 
  • #146
It's good that Ala. is getting a little sunshine on these cases....the more everybody knows what's going on the better we know what to look for and maybe prevent it from happening.

BBM =

Oh, Absolutely. Nothing more frustrating than having someone decide for you what you 'need to know'.
 
  • #147
:maddening:


There's just no way to understand the ignorance of some parents, nor their cruelty. Three hours... because of a candy bar? There is an odd twist to the justice that will come to those two women: being incarcerated with other mothers in a world where candy bars are highly prized currency. I imagine they'll do some "running" of their own-- and for the rest of their lives, they'll WISH they were dead.

There you have it. :mad:

RIP, little Savannah. What a beautiful, sparkling, child you were... I take solace in knowing that you're romping, playing, skipping, and laughing in a place where love is without question. :heartluv:
 
  • #148
http://www.waff.com/story/17033291/hearing-set-for-savannah-hardins-stepmother

Hearing set for Savannah Hardin's stepmother

Court dockets did not reveal the subject of the hearing, scheduled for this Thursday.



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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46549027


Hearing for woman accused in girl's running death

She is now back in the Etowah County jail after being released from a hospital. A hearing is set for Thursday but court dockets don't reveal the subject.
 
  • #149
As a mom of two wonderful adult kids, I cannot even fathom punishing a child for eating candy when they weren't supposed to. I mean name one kid in the world who hasn't done this? I actually probably would have laughed it off and moved on....maybe even asked if they got one for me, giggle, giggle...

If it was stealing the candy (which it wasn't) we would have talked about not stealing. Then they would have had to pay back whoever it was they took it from and apologize. But you know it wouldn't have been an earth-shaking event. It just would have been a "this is how we do things" event.

If it was a legitimate health issue, we would talk about it and moved on. My husband is diabetic and he shouldn't eat candy. But you know, sometimes he does. And really, so what?

If I did have to punish one of them for something, I always chose activities, like doing dishes, vacuuming, working in the yard, you know, something that made them see they had accomplished something when they were done (and they were given great praise for it) and coincidentally it would be something that made my life easier. I'm not completely dumb. My kids are in their 30's and very responsible, hard-working, good kids.

I feel so bad for this little girl.
 
  • #150
This story is crazy....

I have made my kids run. BUT its for being too wild in the house. I tell them, "you have a lot of energy, go run around the tree (big tree in front yard) 10 times." They are usually happy to do so and come in a little more calm:) I also will give push ups when I feel they have a little more energy than I can deal with at the time, and again, they seem more than happy to do them. BUT...A CANDY BAR? That doesnt even MAKE sense? Were they worried about her weight? I mean really.......yep, totally sounds like control and wanting to watch someone suffer. Mean, nasty, people.

The only thing I would "punish" for would be if she lied about the candy bar. I certainly wouldnt make her run though. Maybe grounded from video games or tv or friends over. But not running......
 
  • #151
Well I'd lie too if I had the Grandmother and StepMother from Hell. I'm sure she knew what kind of consequences she would be facing.
 
  • #152
As a mom of two wonderful adult kids, I cannot even fathom punishing a child for eating candy when they weren't supposed to. I mean name one kid in the world who hasn't done this? I actually probably would have laughed it off and moved on....maybe even asked if they got one for me, giggle, giggle...

If it was stealing the candy (which it wasn't) we would have talked about not stealing. Then they would have had to pay back whoever it was they took it from and apologize. But you know it wouldn't have been an earth-shaking event. It just would have been a "this is how we do things" event.

If it was a legitimate health issue, we would talk about it and moved on. My husband is diabetic and he shouldn't eat candy. But you know, sometimes he does. And really, so what?

If I did have to punish one of them for something, I always chose activities, like doing dishes, vacuuming, working in the yard, you know, something that made them see they had accomplished something when they were done (and they were given great praise for it) and coincidentally it would be something that made my life easier. I'm not completely dumb. My kids are in their 30's and very responsible, hard-working, good kids.

I feel so bad for this little girl.
You have the right attitude! Too bad you weren't this little girl's grandmother instead of the monster she got who has the nerve to call her "beloved"!!!
 
  • #153
Slightly OT but when I was little, maybe 4, there were these diet meds disguised as caramels called Ayds. My hand to God---ain't that awful?

Anyhoo,my mom was always dieting and she had a box of them hidden in the linen closet only not hidden so well. We weren't allowed sweets so naturally I had a wicked sweet tooth and climbed into the closet and ate a goodly portion of the box.

Now I don't know if it was just caffeine or heck, maybe even something really strong that was legal OTC back in the 60's-70's, but when my mom discovered my deed shortly after, she wigged out, made me drink ipecac and rushed me to the doctor. I was fine(although probably pretty hyper), but I guarantee you that it never occurred to my mom to physically punish me for that, and also she lightened up a little on the sweets ban in the house.

I know it's not the same, those Ayds were not just candy, and I didn't have medical condition that may have been exacerbated by the candy (had it actually been candy), but how snake-bit mean do you have to be to run a child TO DEATH because they ate an effin candy bar?

"oh it's bad for your health so I'm going to physically abuse you until you die to teach you to take better care of yourself". Makes great sense.

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I can't believe you know about those! The mother of one of my friends, probably '68, weighed no less than 400 lbs - she sat in the same chair every day, and her belly would be hanging off the sides of it. She was always eating those things. The name of that "candy" was forever burned in my mind - I swore I'd never eat them because they, in my mind, made you really huge. Later, of course, I found out they were a diet aid.

I posted about this beautiful little girl on another forum here - when I put in the name Samantha Hardin, nothing came up. My apologies for the repeated thread.

RIP beautiful little girl.
 
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  • #155
from an article linked upthread:
"Savannah Hardin's life was in turmoil long before police say the 9-year-old was run to death by her grandmother and stepmother for allegedly lying about some candy she ate."

"Run to death". The words just boggle the mind. Three hours straight, running around that house until her little body just gave out. For eating some candy.
Unbelievable, this kind of cruelty and malice.
 
  • #156
from an article linked upthread:
"Savannah Hardin's life was in turmoil long before police say the 9-year-old was run to death by her grandmother and stepmother for allegedly lying about some candy she ate."

"Run to death". The words just boggle the mind. Three hours straight, running around that house until her little body just gave out. For eating some candy.
Unbelievable, this kind of cruelty and malice.

I would think that at some point before she died, probably after an hour or so, she must have started throwing up. I don't know that for sure, but I'd be willing to bet. If that did happen how they could keep running her after that is beyond me. Well the whole darn thing is beyond me anyway.
 
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  • #158
http://www.gadsdentimes.com/article...rosecutors-to-upgrade-charge-in-girl-s-death-

Alabama prosecutors say they are filing capital murder charges -- which carries the possibility of the death penalty -- against a grandmother accused of running her 9-year-old granddaughter to death as punishment


Defense lawyers say both women are innocent and predict they'll be acquitted. They say the father of the dead girl is supporting the women.
 
  • #159
I'd like to hear what the father has to say. I'm not taking a defense attorney's word on if the father is supporting his wife and mother.
 
  • #160
The part about the father supporting the women has been taken out of the article.
 

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