Alec Baldwin
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FWIW, from one of Penelope's links, it states that her husband, Alec Baldwin, had a hard time dealing with her illness.
Soooooo, IMHO, anything he says about Ms Basinger, I'd take with a grain of salt. Now that he's angry at her, he's going to use her illness against her. He on the other hand,.............well he IS on tape.
JMHO
fran
PS.....My daughter in law and grandson went to the after party for the premier of Twilight a while back. She met and talked to Kim Basinger and said she was very sweet. (she had her daughter with her)
http://www.personalmd.com/news/n0827102716.shtml
Even Basinger's husband had a hard time coming to terms with her illness.
``He was baffled by it and wasn't sure it really existed. But he has seen a great change in me,'' says Basinger, adding that she has learned to face her fears and has regained control of her life.
It is very hard for people to understand the fear that comes with Panic and anxiety.My ex just could not wrap his mind around it. I could not wrap mine around it until I went and talked to a Dr. about it.When it hits me all I can do is breathe and go in my room and pray. From an outsider looking in I'm sure it looks very strange.I have tools that I use to help me.
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Panic/Anxiety is crippling. Interestingly enough, all of the reading I have been doing regarding it ties it to excess sensitivity to carbon monoxide build up in the blood. It causes a "fight or flight" reaction in the brain by increasing the heart rate and breathing to increase blood flow. The down side is that this reaction creates a shallow breath rather than a deep satisfying breath, which increases the carbon monoxide in the blood and the body cycles again....It may also be related to PTSD type reactions in the brain....this is why yoga has proven to be a relatively effective tool with both because it teaches a deep quality breath that is controlled....sorry to go OT.
Yoga and pilates have been very helpful to me.
southcitymom
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Hey mystery! I didn't mean to ignore you, but I haven;t been around in a few days.
I think Penelope's post came closest to summing up my beliefs about Kim. My opinion is filtered through my own lens - that of a child whose mother tried to damage her relationship with her father during and after a divorce.
I don't have any links, but the impression I have formed based on things I have seen and/or read in the media is that Kim has definitely tried to alienate Ireland from her Dad. I have seen and read things (not only Alec's accusations) that are eerily similar to things I experienced with my own divorced parents.
Parental alienation is very common in divorce - less common today than it used to be, I think, thank goodness - and it is a brutal thing to do to a child. Most of my deepest childhood wounds center around my mother's subtle and not subtle attempts to undermine my love for my father.
Now, Alec has done himself no favors in strengthening his relationship with Ireland. Some of his documented behavior is scary and buffoonish. But Kim plays a big part in this. There's no way anyone can convince me that Kim has not manipulated her daughter's opinion of Alec and used her daughter to continue to hurt him because he hurt her.
I know she has defied a few court orders. I believe she had a hand in the release of that tape where Alec was railing on Ireland.
I think both of these parents have made a mess of parenting this child. It boggles the mind that an adult would allow hatred of another person to guide their behavior more dramatically than love of his/her child.
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SouthCityMom -- you said it perfectly when you said your opinion was "filtered through my own lens". Mine is filtered through my own lens, too. I consider myself a feminist but had my eyes opened to divorce from the point of view from a father through my life with my late husband.
Like you, I have formed impressions regarding the Baldwin-Basinger situation and see some similarity in my husband's relationship with his ex-wife. Of course, we do not know what goes on behind the closed doors of a relationship, just as we cannot make decisions about people based on their public persona. My stepdaughter's mother comes across at first glance like a sweet, beautiful and doting mother. Only when you begin to have daily interactions with her do you see the real person behind the facade.
One of the things I learned through my half-century of life experience is to take into account the way a person was raised and how they treat their parents. Like I said before, my observations of the Baldwin boys, not matter how bizarre their adult behavior, is that they grew up in a fairly stable family environment. I do not know much about Basinger's childhood, other than she suffered from anxiety (she said this) and she became estranged from her mother for a number of years. This leads me to believe that she has some issues, too, and a manifestation of these issues could be the mess with her daughter and ex-husband.
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In addition I would like to add that after years of dealing with a borderline/Anit-social ex wife and mother to mr zig's kids...when you read in depth about parental alienation syndrome in a severe case it will blow your mind and here's the part people are missing when they assume...
often times the parent that "seems" the most unlikeable one is the most honest one and it especially happens with men who just can't handle subtle manipulations etc. I'm just saying that even marriage and family therapists can meet with the parents and if one parent has a great handle on their personality disorder, they can make the more normal parent look like the crazy one - and with limited interactive time, even the MFTs will buy it.
None of us really know, but Kim's lack of anything on tape etc. could be either her extreme craftiness or really good handling by her employees...I think AB has issues not doubt, but sometimes others can throw fuel on the fire.
often times the parent that "seems" the most unlikeable one is the most honest one and it especially happens with men who just can't handle subtle manipulations etc. I'm just saying that even marriage and family therapists can meet with the parents and if one parent has a great handle on their personality disorder, they can make the more normal parent look like the crazy one - and with limited interactive time, even the MFTs will buy it.
None of us really know, but Kim's lack of anything on tape etc. could be either her extreme craftiness or really good handling by her employees...I think AB has issues not doubt, but sometimes others can throw fuel on the fire.
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I see Southcitymom........
You could be right.......she could play a bigger role than I know of and no, Alec doesn't do himself any favors..that's for sure.
I hope that Ireland is able to rise above all of this and isn't permanently scarred more......
Also, Five Element Acupuncture can be amazing! Five Element, or Classical Acupuncture as it is sometimes called, can help reset the energetic flow back to a person's true authentic self, the natural self before trauma knocked it off center. In the classical meridian theory, fear and anxiety is most often related to the water element, and the kidney and bladder meridians. Interestingly, western medical research has recently linked agoraphobia to dehydration.
Classical acupuncture (5-element) dates back over 5 thousand years and is different from TCM (traditional chinese medicine). TCM arose during Mao's tenure and has substantial differences from the ancient knowledge of 5-element acupuncture. Classical acupuncture is very effective in treating many issues that seem to have a psycho-emotional origin.
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Of course, my opinion is clouded by my own experiences also. Just last week my ex was out of town, drunk, and I guess the guilt of what he did years ago was getting to him. He called my 19-year old daughter to spill his guts, tell her how he almost broke his neck (didn't bother to call and find out what that was all about because I'm sure it was some B.S.). All of this at almost midnight on a Thursday night. I've done nothing to alienate my children from their father. He does great with that all by himself.
I guess AB could be telling the truth. I'm just hesitant to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I guess AB could be telling the truth. I'm just hesitant to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_1...ked-off-plane-for-playing-words-with-friends/
(CBS) Alec Baldwin was booted from an American Airlines flight in Los Angeles on Tuesday, apparently after he used an electronic device to play a Scrabble-like game before the plane departed.
"Flight attendant on American reamed me out 4 playing WORDS W FRIENDS while we sat at the gate, not moving. #nowonderamericaairisbankrupt," Baldwin tweeted.
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How dare those nasty flight attendants, asking him to shut off his toy!!! And all for measly security & safety's sake! Don't they realize who they're dealing with??
Maybe next time he should take his private jet.
(CBS) Alec Baldwin was booted from an American Airlines flight in Los Angeles on Tuesday, apparently after he used an electronic device to play a Scrabble-like game before the plane departed.
"Flight attendant on American reamed me out 4 playing WORDS W FRIENDS while we sat at the gate, not moving. #nowonderamericaairisbankrupt," Baldwin tweeted.
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How dare those nasty flight attendants, asking him to shut off his toy!!! And all for measly security & safety's sake! Don't they realize who they're dealing with??
Maybe next time he should take his private jet.
The part of the story that Alec left out is that it was the Captain who had him removed.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/06/alec-...es-throw-off-words-with-friends/#.Tt9yK2D9KFU
He threw a temper tantrum and slammed the lavatory door so hard it was heard in the cockpit. The guy might be an entertaining actor, but he is a real life jerk and bully.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/06/alec-...es-throw-off-words-with-friends/#.Tt9yK2D9KFU
He threw a temper tantrum and slammed the lavatory door so hard it was heard in the cockpit. The guy might be an entertaining actor, but he is a real life jerk and bully.
ziggy
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What? Dr. Drew is defending this guy? He does not care about working class people Dr. Drew...he may come from that background and pretend to, but deep in his soul he thinks he's above it all - a pompous, arrogant celebrity. How much more Al B do we need to see to get it? Sheesh.
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Alec, just more of his antics to keep him in the news.
Why doesn't this putz just grow up?
Notice---- Nothing is never his fault! It's always someone else's, his
ex-wife, the airport, the networks, etc.
He thinks he is so above the rest of us and can get away with anything.
It's time someone puts this child in his place.:maddening:
Goz
Why doesn't this putz just grow up?
Notice---- Nothing is never his fault! It's always someone else's, his
ex-wife, the airport, the networks, etc.
He thinks he is so above the rest of us and can get away with anything.
It's time someone puts this child in his place.:maddening:
Goz
Dr. Drew is nothing but a celebrity boot-licker. The guy has ZERO credibility.
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Off topic, but I notice Dr. Drew is all over the place now, Big freakin expert,,
(Not).. He is a nothing too. I enjoyed him when he kept himself on CR and only that, but now he is the go to man.. right! :maddening:
Goz
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I do love Words with Friends, though...
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