All About George

[jomasano]

I don't have grandchildren yet, but I hope I wouldn't hesitate to turn one of my sons in if he had harmed his child. I would like to think that I would have the strength to watch one of my children go to prison for the rest of his life.

My point: I have judged CA and GA for trying to protect their daughter, but until I have walked a mile in their shoes, I really can't say how I would react in the same situation.

Sorry. I didn't sleep well last night and my thoughts are really jumbled.

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[YellowDog]

I realize that Casey is the only POI at this time, but I am not sure at all that the A's are innocent of any wrongdoing, at least on some level. That of course is MHO and I am entitled to it. I am not trying to start rumors or throw accusations that are not true. While I don't doubt for one minute how much the GP's love Caylee, they have shown where their priorities lie. And IMO that would be in protecting the person that killed their grandchild, their daughter Casey! The Ultimate Betrayal to Caylee I think.... I wonder if we would even know that Caylee was missing if CA had given Casey the extra day that she wanted on the 911 call, unfortunatly I think we may be none the wiser. MOO

I don't believe you'd turn your own daughter in to the police if you were a co-conspirator. If it wasn't for Cindy, we might not know today that Caylee is missing.

 

[TxLady2]

I have thought of this over and over again. First of all, my child would be in jail. There is no doubt in my mind about that fact. The second thing I am pretty sure of is that I would have been in jail for beating the chit out of her for not telling, Im sure someone would have posted my bail. I havent decided yet where I would be now.. either flying the country following every single hint of a lead that came in or heavily sedated in bed or the hospital. Either way I wouldnt be mentally or physically around to see protesters.

Flying around all over the country would get very expensive after a few days. There could be plausible reasons why they aren't physically looking for Caylee that we don't understand.
I don't like the way they've handled it, to be clear. But it is wrong to say what WE would do when faced with a situation like this, because we just don't know until it happens.
I don't have a daughter. I do have a stepdaughter I'm very close to because she lived with us while in high school. We stood by her when her own mother turned her back on her for filing charges on her stepfather for molesting her. No one believed her except my husband and I. If this happened to her, and she was suspected of her child's disappearance, we would not disown her and we would probably stand by her. It would hurt us deeply, but we could never stop loving her. That's the difference in real love for your child and just loving them until they make a terrible mistake, and then tossing them to the wolves. I'm not talking about you personally... just saying that people need to stop and think before they speak... you don't know what Life is going to hand you down the road... and you surely don't have a rulebook for how to handle it when a tragedy occurs.
I mean no disrespect at all. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and you might handle things entirely different than I would, or someone else would. I think I would be a basket case by now. Someone else might be a lot stronger. But when push comes to shove... it's not easy to turn your own child away... it's much easier to talk about than to do... I've been there.

 

[coco puff]

It truly is difficult to know what I would do in this situation, but I do know that I would do whatever it takes to find out what happended to my daughter. I couldn't lay in my bed one night not knowing if she had a warm place to sleep. I wouldn't worry one minute about my house not knowing what house my little girl is calling home. I couldn't drive by one wooded area without getting out to look, JUST to make sure it was NOT her final resting place. Mostly, I think I would cry because I'm missing watching her grow and learn and discover life.

I would welcome all who have posted on this thread to be on the jury if I ever had to face one. It is amazing to me how much empathy you all have. It gives me hope.

 

[Katie526]

Flying around all over the country would get very expensive after a few days. There could be plausible reasons why they aren't physically looking for Caylee that we don't understand.
I don't like the way they've handled it, to be clear. But it is wrong to say what WE would do when faced with a situation like this, because we just don't know until it happens.
I don't have a daughter. I do have a stepdaughter I'm very close to because she lived with us while in high school. We stood by her when her own mother turned her back on her for filing charges on her stepfather for molesting her. No one believed her except my husband and I. If this happened to her, and she was suspected of her child's disappearance, we would not disown her and we would probably stand by her. It would hurt us deeply, but we could never stop loving her. That's the difference in real love for your child and just loving them until they make a terrible mistake, and then tossing them to the wolves. I'm not talking about you personally... just saying that people need to stop and think before they speak... you don't know what Life is going to hand you down the road... and you surely don't have a rulebook for how to handle it when a tragedy occurs.
I mean no disrespect at all. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and you might handle things entirely different than I would, or someone else would. I think I would be a basket case by now. Someone else might be a lot stronger. But when push comes to shove... it's not easy to turn your own child away... it's much easier to talk about than to do... I've been there.

Great Post.

 

[softsoul]

I realize that Casey is the only POI at this time, but I am not sure at all that the A's are innocent of any wrongdoing, at least on some level. That of course is MHO and I am entitled to it. I am not trying to start rumors or throw accusations that are not true. While I don't doubt for one minute how much the GP's love Caylee, they have shown where their priorities lie. And IMO that would be in protecting the person that killed their grandchild, their daughter Casey! The Ultimate Betrayal to Caylee I think.... I wonder if we would even know that Caylee was missing if CA had given Casey the extra day that she wanted on the 911 call, unfortunatly I think we may be none the wiser. MOO

I don't know if any other family member is or ever was involved in any crime. I'll leave that up to LE. This is a family which has experienced an unimaginable loss, likely the result of the actions of their own. This is also a family that has to live with that loss every waking minute. However, this is a family that told the public to off their arses and look for Caylee then promptly returned to their house to sit on their own. This is a family that has never had recognizable presence at the Sawgrass Apartments (see resident answers questions thread) where Caylee was supposably last seen alive. This is also a family that has asked for money from the public in several ways (some very suspicious to say the least) and have used at least some of that money for things that have absolutely no relationship to a search for Caylee. This is a family that has continually exhibited a sense of entitlement that goes beyond anyone I have ever seen in a similar situation. So I understand the compassion, but I also understand the anger. Believe it or not, it is possible to experience both.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I don't believe you'd turn your own daughter in to the police if you were a co-conspirator. If it wasn't for Cindy, we might not know today that Caylee is missing.

My point exactly! And I don't think that CA was a co-conspirator. But, I do think that if Casey had the extra day that she can be heard asking for on the 911 call to spin her tale to the GP's that CA may NOT have made that call. I in no way think that anyone other than Casey had anything to do with the death of Caylee, I do believe that they loved her with all their heart. But, I do wonder what role any of the 3 may have played in covering up what has happened. Just My Opinion :blowkiss:

 

[Pondering Mind]

FWIW I had Great Compassion in the beginning for the A's, but I guess that has long since given way to anger. I just feel that no matter how much they love their daughter and don't want her to spend the rest of her life behind bars, they are turning their backs on Caylee by protecting Casey. (IMHO that is exactly what they are doing) At this point my ONLY concern is finding this precious child and so often it appears now that theirs is protecting Casey.

 

[beetrue]

yes, and perhaps get their GED's so they can speak in full sentences without cussing.

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[Pondering Mind]

But their are certain patterns of behaviour that human beings adhere too. Thats why we have Psychiatry and behavioural science. And according to previous cases that have been similar in many ways to this, the A's ARE BEHAVING LIKE PEOPLE WHO KNOW CAYLEE IS DEAD. And, KC is behaving like a sociopathic killer. And they are doing more for their grass than their granddaughter!

This is why people are outraged. Its so horrible to see. A tiny wee girl is gone and these people are making statements about punishing the people responsible for the chipping of windows and denting of garages TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.

Its worse than tragic, its a GO*DAMN TRAVESTY

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[TURBOTHINK]

I have thought of this over and over again. First of all, my child would be in jail. There is no doubt in my mind about that fact. The second thing I am pretty sure of is that I would have been in jail for beating the chit out of her for not telling, Im sure someone would have posted my bail. I havent decided yet where I would be now.. either flying the country following every single hint of a lead that came in or heavily sedated in bed or the hospital. Either way I wouldnt be mentally or physically around to see protesters.

Mine would be in jail too. I have no doubt in my mind about that either. I would never enable them by letting them sit in my home until they told me exactly what happened.

One of my sons got into trouble at 17 by being in a car with his friends where there were beers. The older ones were legally able to have it but him and one more wasn't. The police stopped them, took the beer and called me to see what I wanted them to do with him. I asked "What do you normally do with an underage boy with beer?" They said they take them to jail. I told him to do exactly that with my son.

The other parent went after their son, and he suffered no consequences at all. My son had to spend 24 hours in jail and go before a judge. He then had to do community service, go to alcohol school, and pay a fine before it would be dismissed and expunged from his record. He did all of it and thought it very unfair I would not pick him up like the other parents did.

Two years later, the boy who was picked up instead of going to jail died in a car wreck while driving under the influence of alcohol. Do I think it made a difference for my son? I don't know, but I know he did not get in a car with anyone with alcohol again until he was over 21 and doesn't hesitate to tell others about his "jail experience" when his mother would not bail him out.

 

[BrowncoatWhit]

Two years later, the boy who was picked up instead of going to jail died in a car wreck while driving under the influence of alcohol. Do I think it made a difference for my son? I don't know, but I know he did not get in a car with anyone with alcohol again until he was over 21 and doesn't hesitate to tell others about his "jail experience" when his mother would not bail him out.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: Bravo! That's the kind of parenting this world and this country needs more of!!

 

[Theonly1]

I agree...... and I also have compassion for this ENTIRE family. I'm a single mom with a 19 year old daughter who is my life. I cannot even begin to imagine raising......and then losing my two year old grandchild like this. Then knowing that my daughter could possibly spend most of her life in a cold and dangerous prison would most likely kill me. I think I could handle my childs death better than her being in prison.


Would I want her at home through the court proceedings, or in jail? Would I want to cook for her, and spend quality time with her before she was sentenced? Would I beg her to tell me the truth? If what she did was so disturbing and horrible.......could I ever forgive her? Would I turn her in with a confession? Would I help her run? There are so many questions, and I ask myself "what if" I was Cindy, George, or Lee? The entire world is in your face judging every single thing you do. Your life is in a complete shambles and no matter what you do is wrong. You know Casey is a very sick girl, and has been since childhood, but you have all lived in denial thinking it was just a faze.

I honestly don't know what I would do. I believe Cindy, George, and Lee all know Caylee is gone and now they are just hanging on to Casey as long as they can. They know she is going to prison, and they are afraid. When I look at the Anthonys fighting off people protesting I think to myself how horrible it must be to have to deal with that in addition to everything else happening. That situation there is out of control, and the protestors are down right frightening. Most of those people are uneducated, tacky, rednecks looking to get on the news. If the media goes away, so do the protestors!!! JMO

I understand everything you're saying. In my opinion the A's are dealing with an "us and them" mentality. In my opinion, they are entrenched in it. They feel attacked, one of their own is being charged with crimes, and they are circling the wagons. All of "them" (the protestors, the law enforcement, the bounty hunter, Tim Miller, the media, the bloggers, essentially the world) are creating issues for the family. While the A's can focus on "all of them" they do not have to focus on the real problems (in my opinion) which is the "us".

While there is any DRAAAMMMMAAA going on they can go out with hammers, bats, signs, caution tape, yelling, challenging, finger-wagging, spinning, etc. They can fight all of the media, the protestors, the bloggers and focus on a whole slew of essentially unimportant stuff compared to the most important fact that their darling grandchild is GONE! Do you really care that someone has their toe on your "property" when your only grandchild is GONE? Do you care that Joey D. Blogger wrote a dirty word on a website about Casey when your grandchild is GONE? Do you really care that a protestor's dog bowl on the sidewalk when your grandchild is GONE?

It must be a terribly hard thing to deal with knowing that the person sitting inside your own home holds some if not all of the answers to the real problem and you can't or won't deal with it. As long as there are "thems" to fight outside the family they can focus on that and not the big huge purple hippo.

 

[black poodle]

How refreshing to come upon almost a whole page of posts that aren't filled with hate and venom. :blowkiss:

Amen to that my thoughts on these protesters are they really seem to have nothing else to do but stand in the street and make fools of themselves in front of everyone and sadley enough their own children who I am sorry to say will grow up just like them. I work a 40 hr week and have a home, family and pets to take care of if these people did also they would not have time to be out there doing this. CA and GA have the right to have their daughter in their home on a bond under the LAW. It is really none of anyones business but theirs and the law, the courts and attorneys. I have a grown daughter about Casey's age and if I were in their place(thank God I am not) I can't say what I would do I dont't know and neither does anyone else until they are in that horrible position.

 

[Cherry Baby]

I really have done my best to see that A side of things. Early on I could understand their 'confusion' in their responses. Once the test results started rolling in though...that tiny bit of compassion I had got thrown out the window. I still think George is capable of cracking up and hurting someone, Guardian Angels or not.

I don't know, but I know he did not get in a car with anyone with alcohol again until he was over 21 and doesn't hesitate to tell others about his "jail experience" when his mother would not bail him out.

Are you my sister from another father? I've told my kid numerous time that she's going to turn out to be a useful and productive member of society if it kills her or me in the process.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I really have done my best to see that A side of things. Early on I could understand their 'confusion' in their responses. Once the test results started rolling in though...that tiny bit of compassion I had got thrown out the window. I still think George is capable of cracking up and hurting someone, Guardian Angels or not.

Are you my sister from another father? I've told my kid numerous time that she's going to turn out to be a useful and productive member of society if it kills her or me in the process.

I most likely am your sister from another father. LOL I just wanted my kids to understand there were no "free rides" when they made the wrong decisions.

I always told them we ALL make wrong decisions, but the difference between the ones who become responsible adults and the ones who don't is accepting the consequences and learning from it. When kids, young people and even young adults never have to pay a consequence they become a burden to society rather than a blessing to it.

 

[dcorrigano]

How is this useful in finding Caylee? An obviously biased secondhand report by an obviously biased person makes GA complicit in Caylee's disappearrance? How is alot of what is posted about the psychology of KC and her family relevent to finding Caylee? More than a few people believe the A's are complicit in Caylees Disappearance.

The Anthonys are going through a hell that few of us could ever imagine. Every word they utter is endlessly dissected and misinterpreted by wannabe pundits who expect them to be grateful for their attention. Their lives, past and present, have been discussed ad nauseum by people who have never even met them.They brought alot of their problems on themselves and no one else. I dont believe they are being honest with LE about what happened to Caylee and the obvious change in their behavior since the first time KC got out of jail adds a big !!!! to that point.

The condemnation they've received for not searching for Caylee is particularly offensive, imo. Can anyone reasonably expect these grandparents to go trudging through swamps looking for a decayed body? Get real....what organized search party would want them there if such a find was unearthed?Really how about stealing from TES, which has been all over the WS threads, is that acceptable. How about the misuse of money meant for finding Caylee is that acceptable.

Yes, their daughter brought this hellstrom upon them and yes...she holds the key to the mystery. But a parent cannot always turn their back on their child. I'm sure these people feel in their hearts that they eventually will be able to get the truth from her. And I'm sure they are praying that truth is something other than "I killed her". I am certainly with them in that prayer. I hope God helps them find some solace in this tragedy. I wouldn't wish their troubles on my worst enemy.

Yes and the A's hold the key to end it. No one is asking them to turn their backs on their child, but they dont have to condone it either, they can visit her in jail. I believe KC has allready told them and they are keeping this information from LE. Oh wait they cant admit she is dead, because the money supply would end!! I wouldnt wish their nightmare on anyone either, but I wouldnt expect the family of a missing child to sell T-shirts and bracelets that were donated on a website either like the A's are doing!!

 

[magic-cat]

Why were George's tire wedges inside of Casey's trunk? THIS has stumped from the get go since he said it. What man puts his tire wedges inside of his daughter's trunk and for what reason were they put there and why did he know they were there. I have seen their garage, and I simply do not believe for one second that they used Casey's trunk for "tool storage"...has anyone ever seen a REASON why he said those were in her trunk?

 

[Oakley]

Yes and the A's hold the key to end it. No one is asking them to turn their backs on their child, but they dont have to condone it either, they can visit her in jail. I believe KC has allready told them and they are keeping this information from LE. Oh wait they cant admit she is dead, because the money supply would end!! I wouldnt wish their nightmare on anyone either, but I wouldnt expect the family of a missing child to sell T-shirts and bracelets that were donated on a website either like the A's are doing!!

Last night on Geraldo, it was revealled that CA has been spreading the rumor that JG was responsible for putting Caylee's body in KC's trunk. So is she now saying that Caylee IS deceased???

 

[doortonowhere]

He was married to her almost 30 years ago... is irrelavent IMO
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Not Necessarily. A leopard doesn't change it's spots, If he was a habitual liar back then he is more than likely one now, and we have already seen his explosive temper. Just goes to show you how KC turned out the way she did. I think it has a lot to do with this as a matter of fact!