All Casey Cell Phone LOGS and PINGS Part#2

[BondJamesBond]

If you look at ping 10 or 11, over to the left and up a bit on the map...you are in Blanchard Park. The Econ something trail runs up right into the park. To the exact same spot that the girl NG was found on June 10th. (I don't think that KC had anything to do with that but she was interested enough in the incident to mention it in her interview with LE.) Could it be that she would have thought it a good place given that the area had already been searched recently. Best place to hide a body being perhaps an area that has already been searched?

I don't know why but this area just keeps coming up!

LP is on NG tonight and he's actually suggesting that the location is near the airport and that she visited near there on the 27th as well...

Don't mean to go around in circles. It was just a strong idea I had...

Thanks, Pink.

OK...on 6/27 I see:

Ping 10: 11:40 am - 11:41 am Near Amscot
Ping 11: 11:42 am - 11:43 am Near Blanchard Park
Ping 12: 11:44am - 11:58 am Near Amscot​

Seems like Ping 11 is only long enough to be passin' through the coverage area w/o stopping, IMHO.

FWIW, when you consider the range of the cell towers, pings "Near Amscot" could just as well come from being in the west end of the Blanchard Park area, actually in the Lake Deborah area where all the canals are and the large retention pond behind the big store next to Amscot is located. I count 3 separate trips from Tony's apt to the "Near Amscot" tower on 6/26. There's also a heavily wooded area on the south side of Colonial near Forsyth that is likely served of this same tower.

1:26 - 1:33PM Near Amscot
1:44 - 1:52PM Near Amscot
5:49 - 6:50PM Near Amscot

All other times @ Tony's apt. The first 2 trips would be while Tony's in class. The last trip...picking up dinner...disposing of something in the Lake Deborah area?

On a related note, Casey's latest story about Blanchard Park draws attention to this area. It seems in her best interest a body is never found. Even if she sticks to the ZFG story, it still seems best for her if a body is never found...which makes me think her drawing attention to Blanchard Park area is a diversion.

Another poster commented about Chris S. thinking he saw her jogging near Chickasaw Trail area...and potential she was revisiting disposal site on foot. That has some merit...I mean...she could be sorta in an outta the way place and to a casual observer she'd be written off as a jogger. I need to go look @ that again.

 

[Georgia PI]

That's almost the exact area I posted this map for a while back when an individual here was offering to go search on a weekend. I felt the small pond was very secluded and, if you zoom in there is a little building next to the pond also.

Yes, I agree. I was trying to make since of LP's statement on NG last night.

South of the home, north of the airport along the road that cut's across. A small area that has a little water on it

 

[BondJamesBond]

I think that the area LP was referring to is actually to the right of the yellow box that you've drawn, around the vista park area and pond. he did say south of the house and north of the airport and that it was secluded. the vista park area meets this criteria.

I dunno. Looking @ the time associated with these pings on 6/27, the only reason I'd suspsect this area is if there were previous pings in the area for a longer duration. There are only a couple minutes between pings when she's down here on 6/27...just long enough to be passing through on main roads...no time to slow down and drive on secondary roads IMHO. Are there any ping maps for any of the 6/16-6/20 days? IIRC, the early reports indicated she was down by the airport ~6/17. Sorry to be such a straggler.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Seeing the yellow rectangle marked on the map I wanted to try something myself, and learned quickly that I wasn't able to find my way around Google Maps.

I'd like to take a ping map and overlay some ~2 mile 'coverage' circles around each tower to see what this looks like, or, even expand some tower coverage circles to encompass the areas they seem to cover based on the tower hand-offs.

I've been 'imagining' these coverages as I step through the ping maps, but, as I try to focus on a quick-disposal I think this kind of coverage-view might help highlight or eliminate some areas for consideration.

Anyone able to give me the 3-sentence how-to on placing scaled shapes on a map?

'lil help?

 

[Pink Panther]

Bond - Thanks for your info too! I will try to check these areas as well.

Something for you to consider as well - keep in mind that KC has been wearing many of the items that she bought with stolen money these past couple of weeks. She almost seems to enjoy "rubbing things in". I also suspect that the big white knapsack that she wore when she first started going to Baez's office - was the same one that GA saw her leaving with the last time he saw Caylee.

ETA - ...And also remember that when she talks about this part of Blanchard Park, she says that it is her mother that doesn't want her to go to that area.

MOO

 

[Capri]

Lil & others working on the complete phone list:
Found a few of the missing phone id numbers (a very few)

(407) 5**-0272 is Larry(a tattoo artist) his myspace screen name is LaryTat2

(407)6**-3131 is the number for Orlando time & weather

(407) 2**-7272 Papa JOhn's Pizza on Colonial DR.
(248) 2**-8707 debt collector/collection agency out of Michigan
(407)2**-3833 Airport Taxi Service

Haven't cross checked the taxi against her ingoing and outgoing calls yet, but it might be telling, if anyone has time to check for it.

(321) 3**-8993 Sanford Cell Phone- no identifying persont yet, but adding it since she told someone Caylee was in Sanford, on one day.

Correction to this post I made:
The 3833 was a typo, it is actually 3633, and belongs to Chris. Sorry for the confusion (no taxi )

 

[Celt1997]

I dunno. Looking @ the time associated with these pings on 6/27, the only reason I'd suspsect this area is if there were previous pings in the area for a longer duration. There are only a couple minutes between pings when she's down here on 6/27...just long enough to be passing through on main roads...no time to slow down and drive on secondary roads IMHO. Is there any ping maps for any of the 6/16-6/20 days? IIRC, the early reports indicated she was down by the airport ~6/17. Sorry to be such a straggler.

I thought that, too, about the time period. But there is that 20 minute period on the morning of the 27th that we don't see on the phone logs. During this time her cell phone will still ping the towers for "location" reasons. I believe that LP and/or TES were given these "location only" pings by LE and that there is something in that 20 minute period we're missing that may be very telling.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Bond - Thanks for your info too! I will try to check these areas as well.

Something for you to consider as well - keep in mind that KC has been wearing many of the items that she bought with stolen money these past couple of weeks. She almost seems to enjoy "rubbing things in". I also suspect that the big white knapsack that she wore when she first started going to Baez's office - was the same one that GA saw her leaving with the last time he saw Caylee.

ETA - ...And also remember that when she talks about this part of Blanchard Park, she says that it is her mother that doesn't want her to go to that area.

MOO

...all true. She's a real piece of work.

 

[Georgia PI]

'lil help?

I have tried to place circles around the two ping areas using paint, but I can't get the photo to paste.

 

[GRANNYL]

Okay ping posters! If Equusearch isn't here by this Saturday and if there are no searches going on, I will happily trace a day (or two) on the ground for you. Please decide which days are BEST for me to follow her tracks. I can take pictures. Please post the best map for me to follow as well (and what locations pictures should be taken of, for sure). I suppose I can list my start time, the time it takes for me to get to each area, what is in each suspected area (because Google Earth isn't necessary up to date on the way an area currently looks), list what interesting sites are near each area, etc. Also, it would be good to know what ROUTE you think she took from ping to ping (mark it with a line or such).
Please respond to this post with your map and I'll see what I can do. Any thoughts?

I am pretty nosey so if I see an area that's screaming out for attention I will beat the bushes (within all allowable laws).
T

I'm nosey too!! I will drive down Sat. morning and help you if you want help. Just let me know so I can make arrangements. Takes about 2 1/2 hours to get there.

 

[BondJamesBond]

I have tried to place circles around the two ping areas using paint, but I can't get the photo to paste.

Thanks, Georgia PI. And, thanks again for all you've already done.

Is it too diff to explain how you put the yellow rectangle on? I mean, don't want to slow you down, or drag this off-topic too far, but, even putting some rectangles down (vs. circles) might be enough to trigger a thought. If too diff, I certainly understand. I don't wanna muck up your masterpieces

Thanks again!

 

[Pink Panther]

The lady that said she saw someone who looked like KC, parked on a median, coming out from the side of the road...Does anyone know WHERE she had this sighting??? I'm trying to locate it on a map and cannot figure it out!

 

[Celt1997]

The lady that said she saw someone who looked like KC, parked on a median, coming out from the side of the road...Does anyone know WHERE she had this sighting??? I'm trying to locate it on a map and cannot figure it out!

I thought she said it was south of the airport, but I could be wrong. When she said, "median," initially I immediately thought of the eastern side of the airport bordered by Rte. 528 on the North, Narcoossee on the East and Dowden on the South.

That wouldn't fit in though with the description of the South side of the airport.

 

[Georgia PI]

OK, Here is the circles based on 2 miles

 

[mommya]

OK, Here is the circles based on 2 miles

I see a red x - pic no work. Edited to say - hey now it works!

I'm not good with placing stuff on a google map - tho I have been successful with MSN (Live Search) maps - but you cannot enter Long. and Lat. on those.

 

[Celt1997]

I see a red x - pic no work.

I'm not good with placing stuff on a google map - tho I have been successful with MSN (Live Search) maps - but you cannot enter Long. and Lat. on those.

Actually you can put the lat/long on the MSN live maps (maps.live.com). Just click on "location" underneath the search bar and then type in the coordinates, separated by a comma, like this: 28.5993583, -81.30325 and then hit search.

 

[Georgia PI]

Actually you can put the lat/long on the MSN live maps (maps.live.com). Just click on "location" underneath the search bar and then type in the coordinates, separated by a comma, like this: 28.5993583, -81.30325 and then hit search.

If you refresh your page you should be able to see the image.

 

[DesSands]

First I want to thank all of you who have made it possible for us to see maps, dates etc. I am ready to beat my head (like many others lol) against the wall trying to figure things out and when I go to the calendars and maps that's when head starts to hurt. :bang:

Now with that said, there are some things that don't make sense. If someone can help me to either confirm or dispel some of these thoughts, I'd sure appreciate some discussion or input.

1. GA's timeline of seeing CA and Caylee the 16th doesn't compute as AL has said that Casey spent the night of the 15th with him, BUT without Caylee.
Two majore problems here, I believe Caylee was no longer alive late on the 15th, early hrs. right after midnight the 16th. Can't see CA staying there after such a big fight. And Caylee was NO MORE, so sorry to say these things.
Soooooo someone's story is inaccurate??
2. I can't figure why the cadaver dogs hit on backyard at A's house twice. I am leaning toward the body being there at some point. Or as has been stated, something was laid down that came in contact with Caylee's body. I still go with option A, first one.
3. I find it hard to believe she drove around with a dead body for 9-10 days.
4. The lady that saw someone come out of the wooded area seems very credible and a STRONG lead. That more or less supports LP's theory of where the body may be. But I can't buy his dumping the body theory on the 27th, moving the car around and reparking it.
5. CA said she had been looking for her daughter for a month? GA says she was in the driveway at their home on the 24th?? Didn't he tell Cindy he saw her? Again another inconsistency some where.
6. GA says he went into the car to retrieve the tire jack or whatever. Even if he didn't get it out of the car, the smell would have carried. Same for Caylee being in the back yard.
7. Can not figure out what she did for a few hrs the day of the 27th wandering around aimlessly with groceries before calling AL? Popsicles would have melted within 5 mins of being in FL sun.
8. Why did LE allow CA to grab the money and credit card. It was all evidence at that point since LE knew they had a missing child for 31 days.
CA needs to give that money back to Amy. It is Amy's from either her bank acct. or from when she was so unfortunately sleep walking. Also what other evidence what tampered with and by whom?

Now I think we will have our answers as to where Caylee's body is if someone who has the cell records and can compare the areas will find that the pings coming from one area 3 or more times will be where she put her.
The reason I say that is it's a known fact the perp always returns to the scene of the crime. I would bet she visited that grave site whenever AL wasn't around and she had nothing to do. Or better yet when she was out partying or shopping till she almost dropped !!

Lastly I believe LE is doing a great job, but they arrested her too soon for the child neglect. If they let her roam, she would have led them to the body and game over 2 mos. ago.
These are my thoughts and opinions.

 

[BondJamesBond]

OK, Here is the circles based on 2 miles

Georgia PI, THAT is a thing of BEAUTY!! :clap::clap:

Thank you sooooooo much!

...for example, now, looking @ the map this way and seeing how quickly she passed through these areas (e.g. say, 60mph= 1 mile/min under good traffic conditions) it suggests to me, IMHO, on 6/27, after leaving Anthony home, she just drove down Goldenrod to Narcoosee to Beachline Expwy, then sped up 417 on her way back to Amscot area.

 

[mommya]

Georgia PI and all - did you guys see my post a bit back about that old post that originated from the dream guy site?

If they really did search that area at 7400 Narcoossee - and find those items - I think that is significant in light of what we now know.

That area is right where we are thinking.

I wish I knew more about what became of that posters story.

It sounded to me like someone really did search that area - for whatever reason - psychic related or not.

I think I even saw pics of their search when I was looking for more info about it.

I don't care if it came from some screwy website or not - if it was a legitimate search - I think it's valuable.

Maybe they should send TES back out there to do a more thorough job.

Thoughts or info anyone?