All Casey Cell Phone LOGS and PINGS Part#2

[Celt1997]

Georgia PI, THAT is a thing of BEAUTY!! :clap::clap:

Thank you sooooooo much!

...for example, now, looking @ the map this way and seeing how quickly she passed through these areas (e.g. say, 60mph= 1 mile/min under good traffic conditions) it suggests to me, IMHO, on 6/27, after leaving Anthony home, she just drove down Goldenrod to Narcoosee to Beachline Expwy, then sped up 417 on her way back to Amscot area.

Mr. Bond. That's what I see too, according to the pings that we have. But did you see my post about the 20 minute lapse in our records? LE has access to the "location only" pings that we have yet to see. I'm guessing somewhere between those 2 circles she spent a certain amount of time, and that is the place they are pinpointing right now.

 

[Georgia PI]

Georgia PI and all - did you guys see my post a bit back about that old post that originated from the dream guy site?

If they really did search that area at 7400 Narcoossee - and find those items - I think that is significant in light of what we now know.

That area is right where we are thinking.

I wish I knew more about what became of that posters story.

It sounded to me like someone really did search that area - for whatever reason - psychic related or not.

I think I even saw pics of their search when I was looking for more info about it.

I don't care if it came from some screwy website or not - if it was a legitimate search - I think it's valuable.

Maybe they should send TES back out there to do a more thorough job.

Thoughts or info anyone?

NO, I did not see it, can you repost it ?.

Please understand that when we are creating maps we may still show to be online on the thread, but in fact we are off on another web site and miss some of the posting on the thread.

 

[mommya]

Actually you can put the lat/long on the MSN live maps (maps.live.com). Just click on "location" underneath the search bar and then type in the coordinates, separated by a comma, like this: 28.5993583, -81.30325 and then hit search.

Thanks Celt - I am still learning.

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

1. GA's timeline of seeing CA and Caylee the 16th doesn't compute as AL has said that Casey spent the night of the 15th with him, BUT without Caylee.
Two majore problems here, I believe Caylee was no longer alive late on the 15th, early hrs. right after midnight the 16th. Can't see CA staying there after such a big fight. And Caylee was NO MORE, so sorry to say these things.
Soooooo someone's story is inaccurate??

Respectfully snipped.

Tony did not say that Casey spent the night at his place on the 15th. Clint did, but Tony said he was incorrect.

 

[BondJamesBond]

The lady that said she saw someone who looked like KC, parked on a median, coming out from the side of the road...Does anyone know WHERE she had this sighting??? I'm trying to locate it on a map and cannot figure it out!

Pink, I tried. I did a forum search on "median" and turned up a few threads. Best I could find was the WFTV report which doesn't tell details much better than what you already know. I actually tried to view the vid several times and it kept freezing up....hoping they would show a map, but, don't think they ever did, IIRC, from seeing it before. You may have better luck if you wanna take your chances...entitled something like "2 new searche areas"...

http://www.wftv.com/video/17610784/index.html

Also - I could swear, although I can't remember if it was WS, SM, or another forum, but, there was a poster that was posting about taking a diff route than normal during this period, and seeing someone fitting Casey's description off the road. It sounded almost exactly like the news report version. I spent a few hours doing forum searches on WS because IIRC, the poster used the number of the highway/expressway they were on or avoiding. I tried all the ones I thought it would be and came to the conclusion I was either not using the search tool correctly, or it must've been on another forum...kicking myself for not paying better attention (and now having to admire Brian B. memory )

You may also want to consider posing this question on the "Questions for fellow Websleuthers thread". I tried to find that thread to post the link for you here, but, my eyes are starting to cross over

 

[BondJamesBond]

Respectfully snipped.

Tony did not say that Casey spent the night at his place on the 15th. Clint did, but Tony said he was incorrect.

...and, IIRC, in Clint's interview w/ Greta he was waffly on her staying the night 6/15. At first, I think he wasn't certain, Greta pressed him on it and he seemed to just cave to her questioning and move on...soo...IMHO, even Clint wasn't 100% on that point.

 

[mommya]

Georgia PI - here's my original post -

I think Lp is describing an area off Narcoossee Rd. - between the A's and the airport - fairly near the towyard really.


If that is the case - I'm wondering what became of that post from the dream guy site - that talked about finding a green childs wagon and bleach bottles and cleaning supply bottles?

I know no one here likes that site - and I don't go there - but I do recall this post. Not sure if the site people actally did the search - or just some local reader of the site who wrote in - anyway....

In light of what we know now - this seems interesting to me. If the search was in fact conducted and these items were found - this was long before the phone calls and ping lists and such were out. Are bleach and cleaning products on any of the receipts?

They said they searched 7400 Narcoosse Rd. - would fit with the pings in question - no?

Does anyone else frequent that other site or know what became of that story?

I don't know much about this - but now I am more interested.

I know there are some folks here that go to that other site - but I don't know specifically who. Guess none of them are on this thread.

I should probably go to the psychic thread - they might be folks who go to that site?

 

[Celt1997]

Thanks Celt - I am still learning.

No problem. There's a lot of new things I've been learning on the fly with this case. I'm just glad all of the WS's are friendly enough to help out.

 

[Georgia PI]

Georgia PI - here's my original post -




I don't know much about this - but now I am more interested.

I know there are some folks here that go to that other site - but I don't know specifically who. Guess none of them are on this thread.

I should probably go to the psychic thread - they might be folks who go to that site?

I might have a link for you, wait just a sec and let me check.

 

[TexasLil]

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1. GA's timeline of seeing CA and Caylee the 16th doesn't compute as AL has said that Casey spent the night of the 15th with him, BUT without Caylee.
Two majore problems here, I believe Caylee was no longer alive late on the 15th, early hrs. right after midnight the 16th. Can't see CA staying there after such a big fight. And Caylee was NO MORE, so sorry to say these things.
Soooooo someone's story is inaccurate??

The phone records show KC texting AL all night on the 15th into early morning hours of the 16th from the A's home location according to the pings.

 

[Georgia PI]

Georgia PI - here's my original post -

I don't know much about this - but now I am more interested.

I know there are some folks here that go to that other site - but I don't know specifically who. Guess none of them are on this thread.

I should probably go to the psychic thread - they might be folks who go to that site?

This is what I found by one of the searchers, not sure if it is the area that you are talking about.

http://www.josephsjordan.com/caylee/

 

[mommya]

Just want to post this bit of transcript from Nancy Grace show to tell us a bit more clearly where that witness saw someone coming out of the woods...

GRACE: So much happening in the search for little Caylee. Right now, to Kathi Belich with CNN affiliate WFTV. Kathi, what can you tell me about an alleged sighting of a woman with a baseball cap pulled down over her head leaving a heavily wooded area near the Orlando International Airport?

KATHI BELICH, WFTV: Well, what we know is the woman was leaving work sometime between June 20th and June 28th near the Orlando airport, and she said she noticed a car that was like Casey`s, she later realized, that belonged -- she thought it belonged to a friend of hers, which is why it caught her attention. When she got closer to it, she saw some markings and some bumper stickers that she knew were not on her friend`s car, so she was relieved her friend wasn`t in trouble.

But as she drove away, she noticed someone slight of build with a baseball cap and some athletic-type wear walking out of the woods, and she thought it was odd because it`s not an area, she said, where anyone would be jogging or anything like that. Of course, that was before Caylee had been reported missing. After Caylee had been reported missing, she saw the car on the news and she saw Casey on the news, and she put two and two together and thought maybe that was Casey. So she told investigators about it, and they have searched that area.

GRACE: Kathi Belich, precisely, to the best you can tell us, where is the area?

BELICH: It is to the south of Orlando International Airport. It`s sort of a secluded road. Once again, not the same secluded road where they have searched in the past that we`ve already reported on. But it is sort of a secluded road. Even during the day when we were there, which is when this woman believed she saw possibly Casey, there was not a lot of traffic on that road.

GRACE: So let me get this straight, Kathi Belich, because the timing of her sighting is very, very important. We all know that as soon as little Caylee was reported missing, the next day, essentially, mom, Casey, went to jail. She was in jail for a period of time. So was the sighting reported after Caylee went missing, but she saw the incident before?

BELICH: Well, this was in the time before any of us even knew that Caylee was missing

 

[mommya]

This is what I found by one of the searchers, not sure if it is the area that you are talking about.

http://www.josephsjordan.com/caylee/

Thanks PI - but it's not JJ group that did the search - it was someone associated somehow with that dream site that no one likes.

But I would love for JJ or TES to go back out there.

I will see if I can find those photos of the search that I was talking about.

Maybe they are kooky over on that site - but if they really did a physical search....could be of value.

 

[Theonly1]

First I want to thank all of you who have made it possible for us to see maps, dates etc. I am ready to beat my head (like many others lol) against the wall trying to figure things out and when I go to the calendars and maps that's when head starts to hurt. :bang:

Now with that said, there are some things that don't make sense. If someone can help me to either confirm or dispel some of these thoughts, I'd sure appreciate some discussion or input.

1. GA's timeline of seeing CA and Caylee the 16th doesn't compute as AL has said that Casey spent the night of the 15th with him, BUT without Caylee.
Two majore problems here, I believe Caylee was no longer alive late on the 15th, early hrs. right after midnight the 16th. Can't see CA staying there after such a big fight. And Caylee was NO MORE, so sorry to say these things.
Soooooo someone's story is inaccurate??
2. I can't figure why the cadaver dogs hit on backyard at A's house twice. I am leaning toward the body being there at some point. Or as has been stated, something was laid down that came in contact with Caylee's body. I still go with option A, first one.
3. I find it hard to believe she drove around with a dead body for 9-10 days.
4. The lady that saw someone come out of the wooded area seems very credible and a STRONG lead. That more or less supports LP's theory of where the body may be. But I can't buy his dumping the body theory on the 27th, moving the car around and reparking it.
5. CA said she had been looking for her daughter for a month? GA says she was in the driveway at their home on the 24th?? Didn't he tell Cindy he saw her? Again another inconsistency some where.
6. GA says he went into the car to retrieve the tire jack or whatever. Even if he didn't get it out of the car, the smell would have carried. Same for Caylee being in the back yard.
7. Can not figure out what she did for a few hrs the day of the 27th wandering around aimlessly with groceries before calling AL? Popsicles would have melted within 5 mins of being in FL sun.
8. Why did LE allow CA to grab the money and credit card. It was all evidence at that point since LE knew they had a missing child for 31 days.
CA needs to give that money back to Amy. It is Amy's from either her bank acct. or from when she was so unfortunately sleep walking. Also what other evidence what tampered with and by whom?

Now I think we will have our answers as to where Caylee's body is if someone who has the cell records and can compare the areas will find that the pings coming from one area 3 or more times will be where she put her.
The reason I say that is it's a known fact the perp always returns to the scene of the crime. I would bet she visited that grave site whenever AL wasn't around and she had nothing to do. Or better yet when she was out partying or shopping till she almost dropped !!

Lastly I believe LE is doing a great job, but they arrested her too soon for the child neglect. If they let her roam, she would have led them to the body and game over 2 mos. ago.
These are my thoughts and opinions.

You wrote:
1. GA's timeline of seeing CA and Caylee the 16th doesn't compute as AL has said that Casey spent the night of the 15th with him, BUT without Caylee.
Two major problems here, I believe Caylee was no longer alive late on the 15th, early hrs. right after midnight the 16th. Can't see CA staying there after such a big fight. And Caylee was NO MORE, so sorry to say these things.
Soooooo someone's story is inaccurate??

Not sure. The pings SEEMINGLY show Casey's cellphone still near the A's home from late 15th - 16th of June in the early morning hours. I have a hard time wrapping my head around a BIG FIGHT occuring and THEN her NOT LEAVING. Perhaps, just perhaps, she went to Lee's house, which is very close to the Anthony home (and would surely ping off the same towers).

You wrote:
2. I can't figure why the cadaver dogs hit on backyard at A's house twice. I am leaning toward the body being there at some point. Or as has been stated, something was laid down that came in contact with Caylee's body. I still go with option A, first one.

We have the following possibilities:
a) Caylee's decomposing body was present in the backyard and moved to the playhouse (one hit) and around the pool (another alleged hit), or
b) Caylee's toys from the trunk (if there were any) which reeked of decomp were placed back in the sandbox and playhouse.

You wrote:
3. I find it hard to believe she drove around with a dead body for 9-10 days.

I think she moved Caylee's poor body all around looking for a good spot (imho).

You wrote:
5. CA said she had been looking for her daughter for a month? GA says she was in the driveway at their home on the 24th?? Didn't he tell Cindy he saw her? Again another inconsistency some where.

I know, it's SOOOO confusing. Maybe she was looking for her GRANDdaughter for a month? George mentions to LE that Cindy knew he was chasing Casey during the alleged car chase. Did this occur on the 24th? If so, was it AFTER she shoved the gas cans at him? I would LOVe to compare the story as GA told to Greta to the story he finally told to LE coupled with the car chase story. What an amazing difference in the WAY it is told!

You wrote:
6. GA says he went into the car to retrieve the tire jack or whatever. Even if he didn't get it out of the car, the smell would have carried. Same for Caylee being in the back yard.

Yeah, I KNOW. And would be a good reason to chase her car, right? Things that make you go HMMMMMMMMM....

You wrote:
7. Can not figure out what she did for a few hrs the day of the 27th wandering around aimlessly with groceries before calling AL? Popsicles would have melted within 5 mins of being in FL sun.

They could have been melted and in little plastic packages. I'm amazed that TL said he picked up Casey on the 27th with Tyson chicken and "ice pops" while Casey's receipts of July 10 show she purchased Tyson chicken and popsicles.

You wrote:
8. Why did LE allow CA to grab the money and credit card. It was all evidence at that point since LE knew they had a missing child for 31 days.
CA needs to give that money back to Amy. It is Amy's from either her bank acct. or from when she was so unfortunately sleep walking. Also what other evidence what tampered with and by whom?

I don't think LE knew CA grabbed the money on the night she grabbed the money. The credit card, if it had her name on it would be her property so maybe LE thought well, it's HERS. Actually, I think the $250.00 money that was a portion of Casey's cash in her wallet was Amy's money from Casey stealing money THAT DAY (July 15) at the Bank of America. It wasn't the sleepwalking money, it was fresh cash from that morning before picking up Amy from OIA. That Casey has HUGE Cajones.

 

[Pink Panther]

Pink, I tried. I did a forum search on "median" and turned up a few threads. Best I could find was the WFTV report which doesn't tell details much better than what you already know. I actually tried to view the vid several times and it kept freezing up....hoping they would show a map, but, don't think they ever did, IIRC, from seeing it before. You may have better luck if you wanna take your chances...entitled something like "2 new searche areas"...

http://www.wftv.com/video/17610784/index.html

Also - I could swear, although I can't remember if it was WS, SM, or another forum, but, there was a poster that was posting about taking a diff route than normal during this period, and seeing someone fitting Casey's description off the road. It sounded almost exactly like the news report version. I spent a few hours doing forum searches on WS because IIRC, the poster used the number of the highway/expressway they were on or avoiding. I tried all the ones I thought it would be and came to the conclusion I was either not using the search tool correctly, or it must've been on another forum...kicking myself for not paying better attention (and now having to admire Brian B. memory )

You may also want to consider posing this question on the "Questions for fellow Websleuthers thread". I tried to find that thread to post the link for you here, but, my eyes are starting to cross over

Bond - Thanks so much for trying to find these...I will keep looking as well. I remember exactly the same information as you including two similar reports of the event! If I find something, I'll post it here. Maybe someone else will remember???

 

[david918]

I also agree its to the right of the yellow box. LP said that she took a diagonal road to the south and east from the Anthony residence. Lee Vista Blvd appears to fit that description

 

[TexasLil]

Georgia PI - here's my original post -




I don't know much about this - but now I am more interested.

I know there are some folks here that go to that other site - but I don't know specifically who. Guess none of them are on this thread.

I should probably go to the psychic thread - they might be folks who go to that site?

The area where the wagon was found was 7400 Narcoossee Rd. This is definitely in the area of the suspect pings of 6/27 and included in the circles Georgia PI has drawn on the maps within two miles of each tower pinged.

 

[TexasLil]

Bond - Thanks so much for trying to find these...I will keep looking as well. I remember exactly the same information as you including two similar reports of the event! If I find something, I'll post it here. Maybe someone else will remember???

"The other area is closer to Orlando International Airport, where a driver told investigators she saw a car like Casey's white Pontiac Sunfire parked in the median days after Caylee disappeared and she saw someone slight of build wearing a baseball cap and what looked like athletic wear walk out of the woods, someone she believes could have been Casey. It was odd to her because it's not a popular spot for joggers."

It's about the 4th article down on this page.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17634763/detail.html

 

[Marsha]

I also agree its to the right of the yellow box. LP said that she took a diagonal road to the south and east from the Anthony residence. Lee Vista Blvd appears to fit that description

I agree it to the right of the yellow box also.
JMO

 

[Pink Panther]

"The other area is closer to Orlando International Airport, where a driver told investigators she saw a car like Casey's white Pontiac Sunfire parked in the median days after Caylee disappeared and she saw someone slight of build wearing a baseball cap and what looked like athletic wear walk out of the woods, someone she believes could have been Casey. It was odd to her because it's not a popular spot for joggers."

It's about the 4th article down on this page.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17634763/detail.html

Thanks Texas L'il!