All Casey Cell Phone LOGS and PINGS Part#3

[david918]

But that picture was from June of 2007. Casey said she just got her BlackJack.

OSCO recorded the picture as taken June 3 2008

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

OSCO recorded the picture as taken June 3 2008

Look at her hair. It was short. It can't be only a little over a month before she was arrested the first time. It was dated as 6/25/2007 in Casey's PhotoBucket account. Not sure why they have the June 3rd date on there.

 

[TexasLil]

For what it's worth, I've always suspected that the real "fight" occured on the 8th and that KC took off with Caylee on the 9th. I'm not sure (need to check) but I'm quite sure that she spent the night with her at RM's house on the 9th and 10th. It will be interesting to see the information we have for that week.

Off to check...

She did stay at RM's house on the 9th per the pings. On the 10th it appears she stayed at home. IIRC RM stated she stayed there on the 9th with Caylee?

 

[Pink Panther]

She did stay at RM's house on the 9th per the pings. On the 10th it appears she stayed at home. IIRC RM stated she stayed there on the 9th with Caylee?

Texas - You're right. She stayed the night with Caylee at RM's. He says that the last time he saw Caylee was the morning of the 10th. I checked the pings and they do indicate that she was at home at the A's on the 10th.

 

[TexasLil]

For what it's worth, I've always suspected that the real "fight" occured on the 8th and that KC took off with Caylee on the 9th. I'm not sure (need to check) but I'm quite sure that she spent the night with her at RM's house on the 9th and 10th. It will be interesting to see the information we have for that week.

Off to check...

Also Panther,

FWIW It appears after staying with RM on the 9th she stayed at home the rest of the nights up until the 16th when she stayed at Tony's most the time thereafter. On Fusion Friday the 13th it appears she goes to Tony's briefly after Fusion but makes it home around 3:00 a.m. the 14th.

Also Tony stated she took him to get his car on the 9th and had Caylee with her that day. They ate at Subway after picking up his car. However, her cell pings on the 9th indicate she was at home all day and then at RM's after 5:00 and the rest of the evening. I believe he may be mistaken and the 10th is when she took him for the car and explains the way north pings around the Altamonte area. If that's the case then Caylee was definitely alive on the 10th.

I also don't believe Casey would be sleeping at home all the rest of the week and weekend without Caylee. Much like you I thought the 9th could be meaningful but after seeing where Casey was sleeping I am more doubful now.

 

[david918]

While these ping dates are helpful the dates I would really be interested in dissecting would be prior to Caylee going missing to determine just where Casey really was going everyday. I think that info would be very important in determining what happened. Question to the pings? Do we know what radius value each ping has, from any given tower? I know we can look at the map and say oh well this pinged near the anthony house so she must have been there, but I would like to draw a circle around each tower (for myself) to see what other possibilities are there that says ok we know for certain that she had to be within this range of radius with her phone at this given time. :waitasec:

Ive done what you suggested and focused on 2 things during the time of June 15 to June 27 when the car was left at Amscot. 1. When was KC in proximity to the Anthony house and 2. Where else was KC if not at the Anthony location.

I found that during this time it appears KC was at the Anthony house for short periods and never later than 5pm - Assume she is avoiding the parents. Times are approximate. Notice that KC is not at the Anthony home on Sat or Sun. During these days the remainder of the time KC is near AL home or Fusian on Friday/Saturday.

Days at Anthony House
6/16 = Midnight to 4:18pm
6/17 = 2:15pm to 4:05pm
6/18 = 2:45pm to 4:11pm
6/19 = no
6/20 = 1:45pm to 2pm
6/21 = no
6/22 = no
6/23 = 2:45 to 4pm
6/24 = 2:45 to 3pm
6/25 = no
6/26 = no
6/27 = 10:35am to 11:08am
6/28 = no
6/29 = no
6/30 = no (This is the day KC takes TL to the airport and passes by the Anthony home area but does not stay)

7/1 = no (This is the day that KC is all over the place and pings in two new locations just north of airport and SE of airport. The location SE of the airport is in the area of boggy creek road and never pings this area again. Also remember KC car was towed on 6-30 so KC is driving the jeep belonging to TL and with TL gone she has a lot of freedom to move around. If you really study the maps 6-15 to 6-30 KC travels back and forth from the Anthony home area to the TL home area - this is a daily pattern. This date 7-1 is out of norm for KC. Especially follow the pings 30 - 35. KC is bouncing around from Johnson Wrecker to the remote area N and SE of airport for about 1.5 hours (7:15 to 8:45). Maybe KC attempts to get into the car that was towed and if KC did then she could have taken something out and disposed of it SE of airport. Its interesting that just after KC heads directly to the Fusian area until 11:45 then heads over the AH location for the rest of the night.

 

[david918]

Also Panther,

FWIW It appears after staying with RM on the 9th she stayed at home the rest of the nights up until the 16th when she stayed at Tony's most the time thereafter. On Fusion Friday the 13th it appears she goes to Tony's briefly after Fusion but makes it home around 3:00 a.m. the 14th.

Also Tony stated she took him to get his car on the 9th and had Caylee with her that day. They ate at Subway after picking up his car. However, her cell pings on the 9th indicate she was at home all day and then at RM's after 5:00 and the rest of the evening. I believe he may be mistaken and the 10th is when she took him for the car and explains the way north pings around the Altamonte area. If that's the case then Caylee was definitely alive on the 10th.

I also don't believe Casey would be sleeping at home all the rest of the week and weekend without Caylee. Much like you I thought the 9th could be meaningful but after seeing where Casey was sleeping I am more doubful now.

Its fairly certain that fathers day is June 15 and CLA had the photo taken in her great grandpa's lap. KC appears to stay at the Anthony home all night 6-15 and doesnt appear to leave until 4:18pm on 6-16 which would be just before CA comes home from work.

 

[TexasLil]

Its interesting that just after KC heads directly to the Fusian area until 11:45 then heads over the AH location for the rest of the night.

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It's good to note that the Waterford Ale House is also associated with the pings near Fusion. There are days where she would ping that same tower and we have conformation she was at the Ale House.

I don't recall specifically if 6/30 or 7/1 was one of those confirmed days.

 

[david918]

Look at her hair. It was short. It can't be only a little over a month before she was arrested the first time. It was dated as 6/25/2007 in Casey's PhotoBucket account. Not sure why they have the June 3rd date on there.

Its hard to tell ... the date referenced by OCSO 6-3-2008 must mean something?
Maybe the hair is pulled back making it look a bit shorter?

Also it just hit me while looking at this photo ... remember the woman's shirt that was shown that was found -- size 5? That shirt that was found and was displayed laying flat was black with a white stripe outlining portions of it. I think they showed it on NG one night - might have been when they found the Disney dress? Anyone have a reference to the pictures of the woman's clothing that was found to compare against this picture?

 

[Pink Panther]

Also Panther,

FWIW It appears after staying with RM on the 9th she stayed at home the rest of the nights up until the 16th when she stayed at Tony's most the time thereafter. On Fusion Friday the 13th it appears she goes to Tony's briefly after Fusion but makes it home around 3:00 a.m. the 14th.

Also Tony stated she took him to get his car on the 9th and had Caylee with her that day. They ate at Subway after picking up his car. However, her cell pings on the 9th indicate she was at home all day and then at RM's after 5:00 and the rest of the evening. I believe he may be mistaken and the 10th is when she took him for the car and explains the way north pings around the Altamonte area. If that's the case then Caylee was definitely alive on the 10th.

I also don't believe Casey would be sleeping at home all the rest of the week and weekend without Caylee. Much like you I thought the 9th could be meaningful but after seeing where Casey was sleeping I am more doubful now.

Thanks for sharing this information. It clears a few things up!

 

[david918]

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It's good to note that the Waterford Ale House is also associated with the pings near Fusion. There are days where she would ping that same tower and we have conformation she was at the Ale House.

I don't recall specifically if 6/30 or 7/1 was one of those confirmed days.

Could be .. but what struck me was the movement from an area that is under search and also contained the impounded car. After spending time in this area KC travels to area that is known for clubs and this is a Tuesday night - the first night that she is alone without TL.

 

[TexasLil]

Could be .. but what struck me was the movement from an area that is under search and also contained the impounded car. After spending time in this area KC travels to area that is known for clubs and this is a Tuesday night - the first night that she is alone without TL.

If she went back and found the car was towed she definitely could have gone to the wrecker area to check it out. Most tow yards have barbed wire fences and pretty good security... not saying this one does specifically.

Your point has been speculated in previous ping threads and always suspected to be valid. I think we need some divine intervention here to figure all this out.

Actually we just need to find little Caylee.

 

[Pink Panther]

Its hard to tell ... the date referenced by OCSO 6-3-2008 must mean something?
Maybe the hair is pulled back making it look a bit shorter?

Also it just hit me while looking at this photo ... remember the woman's shirt that was shown that was found -- size 5? That shirt that was found and was displayed laying flat was black with a white stripe outlining portions of it. I think they showed it on NG one night - might have been when they found the Disney dress? Anyone have a reference to the pictures of the woman's clothing that was found to compare against this picture?

David - This discussion should probably be in the phone thread. Anyway, if I remember correctly there were two of these pictures in her account. One was the original and the second one is the one shown in your original link. She altered the original pic to look like a negative. It might be possible that the June date is the date that she altered the pic???

 

[david918]

Thanks for sharing this information. It clears a few things up!

from the TL interviews was it clear the last time TL saw Caylee? If GA/CA did not see Caylee from 6-16 - 7-16 then who actually saw her? KC was at TL up until the day she took him to the airport.

 

[Pink Panther]

If she went back and found the car was towed she definitely could have gone to the wrecker area to check it out. Most tow yards have barbed wire fences and pretty good security... not saying this one does specifically.

Your point has been speculated in previous ping threads and always suspected to be valid. I think we need some divine intervention here to figure all this out.

Actually we just need to find little Caylee.

It is definitely a possibility that she tried to go and see if her car was at Johnson's...Simon B does mention in his interview that there are towing signs at the Amscott so they may indicate the tower's name/location as well. (It would be great if someone local could go and have a look for us!) I've posted about the 30th before. I think that it was definitely an unusual night for her and it appears that she did not have a place to stay. It looks like she slept (the little that she did) in her car that night.

 

[david918]

David - This discussion should probably be in the phone thread. Anyway, if I remember correctly there were two of these pictures in her account. One was the original and the second one is the one shown in your original link. She altered the original pic to look like a negative. It might be possible that the June date is the date that she altered the pic???

agreed .. my only point here was in regards to the ping data that shows only 1 IMEI or phone was used with her number. There was reference to a blackjack that had contact numbers but the ping data did not support that. The picture is the only evidence that there could have been a black jack phone

 

[TexasLil]

Okay, there's an article on foxnews.com about Scott writing Casey. The picture they use of Casey is the original one that came out when this case first broke. She's wearing that blue hoodie she got from Target. But where is she in the pic? It looks like a car but it looks like she's standing up. Is she in a plane or something? This would have been after Casey disappeared b/c of the hoodie. Look how happy she looks.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444827,00.html

You should probably post this in the questions for fellow websleuthers thread... this discussion is for cell phone logs and pings.

 

[david918]

The cell logs and pings indicate a device with the IMEI code 011191000751570 is used for all calls/texts. If you decode this IMEI it comes back as a Model 2610 manufactured by Nokia.

The blackjack that was reported by KC to have been used by switching the SIM card would have showed a different IMEI number. The photo of a phone in front of KC is a Samsung Blackjack however it does not appear to ever be used during the time the records are provided.

http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr

FWIW just trying to find if another phone was ever used on KC number. Are there any ping records prior to 6-15 that show a different IMEI?

 

[TexasLil]

The cell logs and pings indicate a device with the IMEI code 011191000751570 is used for all calls/texts. If you decode this IMEI it comes back as a Model 2610 manufactured by Nokia.

The blackjack that was reported by KC to have been used by switching the SIM card would have showed a different IMEI number. The photo of a phone in front of KC is a Samsung Blackjack however it does not appear to ever be used during the time the records are provided.

http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr

FWIW just trying to find if another phone was ever used on KC number. Are there any ping records prior to 6-15 that show a different IMEI?

6/1 through 6/14 all show the same IMEI number.

 

[TexasLil]

It is definitely a possibility that she tried to go and see if her car was at Johnson's...Simon B does mention in his interview that there are towing signs at the Amscott so they well indicate the tower's name/location as well. (It would be great if someone local could go and have a look for us!) I've posted about the 30th before. I think that it was definitely an unusual night for her and it appears that she did not have a place to stay. It looks like she slept (the little that she did) in her car that night.

I just sent a note to someone I know locally to see if he has or would consider going by there. Will let you know when I hear.