**all things zfg lawsuit merged **

[Tichad3]

Casey NEVER named Zenaida Gonzales. She named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales. Casey was ALWAYS clear about the hyphenated last name and has never wavered from that. This ZG has not Fernandez in her name whatsoever and doesn't even match the physical description Casey gave.

Well maybe you should let all the people who sent her and her family death threats know that. If someone had acted out on one of those threats do you think they could have gotten off a murder charge because someone forgot to tell them that there was no hyphen Fernandez????

In your explanation, LE should have NEVER asked her a single question. I mean, who do they think they are???? KC the most honest person has never wavered in saying that it was hyphen Fernandez, why would LE drag her into this????

 

[SoCalSleuth]

Casey has stated, from the beginning, she is not the Zeniada who kidnapped her daughter.

The police have publically stated over and over again she is not implicated in this case AT ALL!

Her name is cleared.

Where has KC stated in a public way that she is not the ZFG? KC has never stated this in a public forum ever. She won't even answer a simple deposition question stating it is not her. Where has LE stated over and over in a public way that she is not the ZFG? I think you are presuming that the general public follows this case closely, reads the document dumps and watches NG- not so. It has been proven over and over again that people remember what they hear and see first. If what you wrote were true then ZG would not have received death threats, would not have been hounded by the media, would not have lost her job etc.

 

[JBean]

We will have one thread on this lawsuit.
You can discuss the merits of the case and the motions in a constructive fashion.
if it turns into a witch hunt or a bickerfest or an "insult all the players as much as possible because I don't have anything else to add to this thread", type thread it will be shut down.

 

[Balthazar]

Some of your description does fit this ZG.

Not that it matters.

Baez has filed a motion associated with his criminal case to look into this ZG background. Online people are
doing it.

That is evidence of invasion and harrassment to me.

This ZG has been thoroughly researched in the past on Websleuths - anyone who wanted to find out all about her could look up the thread here and see that there is NO match whatsoever and that was conclusively proven.

EVERYONE should leave her alone.

 

[Jolynna]

I agree. ZFG's attorneys are taking this far beyond trying to clear her name, which has already been cleared repeatedly. It appears that they are actually trying to investigate Caylee's disappearance and murder, which could, IMO, be construed as interfering in a criminal case.

Depositions are what you get when you countersue.

No...the name HASN'T been cleared. Baez filed a motion through his criminal case to get LE's notes and info about THIS person.

 

[MarleneM]

Not really. JM said that when ZFG first came to his office, she would come in with her head hung low, tears in her eyes, in obvious distress. Now that she's got a good case on her hands, she comes into his office with her head held high and full of hope. This is paraphrased, of course. She was at Sawgrass at the right time, she does have New York plates on her car, like KC said and ZFG is certainly not a common name. Plus, I don't know why they don't talk about this at all, but one of KC's friends worked in the office at Sawgrass and has reportedly refused to cooperate with LE. IIRC, she is the only one of KC's friends who has refused to give any statements, to cooperate with LE. Therein lies the tie, I think

So this is not just some random ZFG hitching up to the gravy train. She and her kids have been threatened, her life and reputation has been ruined and all because of KC's lies.

I've never forgotten KC knows someone who works at Sawgrass, and I've never forgotten that KC pointed to apt number #210 that had been vacant for months and said that is where she left little Caylee with ZFG in the same timeframe that ZG with NY plates was applying to view an apartment with Sawgrass. I also keep in mind the coincidence that KC claims ZFG had two roommates, each one bearing the same name as the two children ZG listed on her application.

It also is not lost on me that KC and JB will plead the 5th in the deposition for their counter-suit before they will sign their names to anything stating this ZG is NOT the ZFG KC was talking about.

 

[CBTampa]

I think that LE has more info that Casey has tied her into this case then we know about. I could be wrong, but I betcha. IMO

 

[Tichad3]

I think that LE has more info that Casey has tied her into this case then we know about. I could be wrong, but I betcha. IMO

I'm not going to take that bet because I think you're right.

 

[radio]

I think that LE has more info that Casey has tied her into this case then we know about. I could be wrong, but I betcha. IMO

CBTampa - I agree.

No comments on the actual lawsuit - other than I think it's a waste of time - in its current form.

 

[coco puff]

Picture for a moment- police or fbi come to question you about something you know nothing about- end of story- No !!!
The media comes to you job with cameras, trying to interview you, asking questions of your co-workers, hanging around outside as employees or maybe customers are coming and going.
No business want this chaos. She was let go of her job, because employer can't have this type of distraction as his place of business- innocent or not.

Landlords are the same way- disturbs others privacy.

ZFG has to prove see is not connected to this mess, so she and her children can live in peace one day.
Oh yes, her children are very probably being teased at school as well.

ITA PLUS - some folks actually think she is a child killer. I could not even imagine.

 

[Jolynna]

Of course he is. Usual contingency fees are 1/3 of the award.

I uke: when I hear anyone cite LP as a source of ligitmate information.

He is such a :liar:

IMO

1/3 of nothing is still nothing.

Morgan knows there isn't money at the end of this tunnel. He IS getting some exposure/advertising. And, it IS a good deed for someone who is vulnerable.

IMO

 

[MarleneM]

Wow. Just...wow.

I don't think ZFG's case is frivolous. She was NAMED by KC herself. ZG might have had what some people are calling a "dull life", but she's entitled to live the life she wanted.

She might have "just been a housekeeper", not some important CEO. But she was living a hardworking, honest life. Why all the hate against her?

Who cares that she hadn't changed her plates. Maybe she didn't have the money to do it, maybe she was planning to go back to NY. Who knows? Although it might be illegal to not change your plates, don't you think it's a small point when weighed against brutally murdering a beautiful baby?

Now back on topic, IMO KC's lawyer is doing things backwards. You don't file a counter suit THEN file a motion for dismissal. Unless they have some new evidence pointing to this case actually being frivolous. I guess we will have to wait and see this one out.

It' not illegal to have out of state tags if you are in the military. I've lived in 5 different states over the last 17 years, in WA now, and have maintain my FL plates to this day.

It's also not uncommon for people/coworkers I know to wait for their previous tags to expire before they bother renewing for residential plates.

And anyone who knows anything about FL knows there is no shortage of NY plates to be spotted for a multitude of reasons. Particularly in the central/southern regions of the state.

 

[Jolynna]

It' not illegal to have out of state tags if you are in the military. I've lived in 5 different states over the last 17 years, in WA now, and have maintain my FL plates to this day.

It's also not uncommon for people/coworkers I know to wait for their previous tags to expire before they bother renewing for residential plates.

And anyone who knows anything about FL knows there is no shortage of NY plates to be spotted for a multitude of reasons. Particularly in the central/southern regions of the state.

That eyebrows are being raised across the nation because THIS poor woman has NY plates shows why the lawsuit is NOT frivalous.

Her life is being invaded.

IMO

 

[Tichad3]

It' not illegal to have out of state tags if you are in the military. I've lived in 5 different states over the last 17 years, in WA now, and have maintain my FL plates to this day.

It's also not uncommon for people/coworkers I know to wait for their previous tags to expire before they bother renewing for residential plates.

And anyone who knows anything about FL knows there is no shortage of NY plates to be spotted for a multitude of reasons. Particularly in the central/southern regions of the state.

Thank you...I did not know that. I was going on NY plate laws. I never even thought of the "snowbirds" that live in both NY and FL.

Thanks for informing me.:blowkiss:

 

[CBTampa]

1/3 of nothing is still nothing.

Morgan knows there isn't money at the end of this tunnel. He IS getting some exposure/advertising. And, it IS a good deed for someone who is vulnerable.

IMO

Morgan and his law firm doesn't need publicity. He is a well grounded and known attorney in Tampa.

 

[MOMto5]

Casey NEVER named Zenaida Gonzales. She named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales. Casey was ALWAYS clear about the hyphenated last name and has never wavered from that. This ZG has not Fernandez in her name whatsoever and doesn't even match the physical description Casey gave.

The documents in her suit against KC list her full name as "Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez".

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092408zenaidalawsuit/1/lg/Scan001_Page_3.htm

 

[justbetweenus]

Tonight LP said that ZG has recently been in the hospital and is living in a shelter. She can't have much money to pay her lawyer to go after KC. Is he just planning to take a chunk of anything they may get from KC?

Oh for sure... I most definitely agree.

 

[elementary]

Actually, this woman is ZG, NOT ZFG. When shown her photo, Casey immediately told police this was NOT ZFG and that she didn't even match ZFG's physical description - not in age, build, hair type, or hair color. When interviewed by police, this ZG said she didn't know Casey or Caylee and had never been a nanny or babysitter. The police believed her. This ZG chose to come out in public and create this problem for herself. There was another ZG who people found out about whose office was robbed. This woman has kept to herself, hence no issues. IMO this suit is without merit.

For all those insisting that this ZG is not ZFG: where do you get your info?

According to the counter-claim documents, this is Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17983289/detail.html#-

(There is a pdf file link included on that page).

 

[MarleneM]

Thank you...I did not know that. I was going on NY plate laws. I never even thought of the "snowbirds" that live in both NY and FL.

Thanks for informing me.:blowkiss:

No, thank you and Jolynna for being open-minded. If I was suspect of something just for having out of state plates, I'd take issue with it too.

 

[elementary]

The documents in her suit against KC list her full name as "Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez".

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092408zenaidalawsuit/1/lg/Scan001_Page_3.htm

You beat me to it.

I wish people would check their facts instead of making up stories that have a negative effect.