Allison Baden-Clay, GENERAL CASE DISCUSSION THREAD -#31

[BJsleuth]

and hugs for CJ60 who is sick in bed tonight! :grouphug:

Get well soon CJ60! :rose: :rose:

 

[Keentoknow]

I have found a couple of articles which may be of interest in relation to the ability to 'age' bloodstains. The first one is from 2006 and sounded promising, insofar as my ability to interpret scientific data is concerned, and the second attachment pdf is in relation to an instrument developed to read and age the bloodstains to assist forensics. So it seems that the process, if not already available is well on the way.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/213892.pdf

Thanks KGI.
You can keep the Victorian temps and weather all to yourself lol



These were mentioned today as well re blood age.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7861641

http://www.enotes.com/time-death-reference/time-death

 

[linette]

Well said Rational. I've also passed on the "respect yourself and don't lower the bar" to my daughter and she is now passing it onto her daughters. It's fantastic to see the wonderful friends (of both gender) my girls attract into their lives. They're pretty savvy at sorting out the wheat from the chaff.

Similarly, when my husband was a young police cadet many, many years ago, his Senior Sergeant gave him some great advice that has stuck with him throughout his life.

Treat everyone how you would like your mother to be treated.

And hey, if you want that glass of single malt, you have it. :twocents:

:cheers:

Sorry everyone, I'm really off topic now.

That is great advice your hubby was given. Along the same lines of treating people how you would want your sister treated. Then again, in some families mothers & sisters are treated very poorly too.

After being through a bad relationship it is so hard watching your daughters find their way, and hoping that they follow the advice we have given them. I have 2 sons, one is 26... and I am very proud to say that he is so respectful to his girlfriend of 9 years. My other son is only 12, and I'm trying to bring him up with the same morals. Having said that, I know that there's alot of females out there giving their male partners a very hard time too.
I'm so glad I'm not young and starting out these days.

 

[JK673]

Having said that, I know that there's alot of females out there giving their male partners a very hard time too.

We saw a father having fun with his daughters when it started to rain, the wife was up him in a flash for not getting the kids back to the car in time and I mean verbally laid into him (grossly so and publicly), my sons are taught to respect women but I have told them do not take crap either and I have told them that sort of woman (one who abuses) is one you need to walk away from.

I cannot stop thinking about that poor father today, still shaking my head.....

 

[linette]

We saw a father having fun with his daughters when it started to rain, the wife was up him in a flash for not getting the kids back to the car in time and I mean verbally laid into him (grossly so and publicly), my sons are taught to respect women but I have told them do not take crap either and I have told them that sort of woman (one who abuses) is one you need to walk away from.

I cannot stop thinking about that poor father today, still shaking my head.....

Yes, I know exactly what you mean, and agree. I've told my sons and daughters don't take crap, and don't give it.
There's also the way some of these people talk to eachother in public... makes you wonder how much worse it is at home? Some arguments I hear while out and about makes me wonder how it all went so wrong.

 

[BreakingNews]

I have no reason to ring the police but if i ever did have to i would ring 000 because i have no idea what the local number is. I have nothing against the police but i have been in a situation before where the nosey neighbours called the police because my husband and i were arguing. It had nothing to do with them and they would call the police almost every day. It got to the stage where we had to move away because too many troublemakers lived in the street. I put up with domestic violence for almost 6 years and would still do ANYTHING to be back with my ex. I loved him and still do love him more than anything in the world but it was embarrassing having the police turn up all the time because of interfering neighbours.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I can understand where you are coming from. I agree.

 

[Liadan]

mmmm Midori, Kahlua and Banana Liqueur - mouth watering - my white wine is definitely not cutting it!

 

[BreakingNews]

My post was referring to that Allison did not seem to have an acute perception of imminent danger of being murdered that night, not the chronic family violence situation which, sadly, many choose to remain within. Hope that is helpful. MOO

Thanks. I doubt many people know they are about to be murdered until the last moment.

 

[possumheart]

Thanks. I doubt many people know they are about to be murdered until the last moment.

Disturbing to say the least.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

From a FB friend:

....and God said to all men that there would be good and obedient women in all corners of the world...

And then he made the world ROUND and laughed and laughed and laughed!

 

[BreakingNews]

From a FB friend:

....and God said to all men that there would be good and obedient women in all corners of the world...

And then he made the world ROUND and laughed and laughed and laughed!

Love it!

 

[CaseClosed]

Evening all ... I'd like to send a big Thank You to all the members who have gone to the bridge and placed flowers or are looking after the sunflower cross for Allison.

On another note, I'm still surprised that apparently EBC has not visited her son. Strange!

 

[linette]

Evening all ... I'd like to send a big Thank You to all the members who have gone to the bridge and placed flowers or are looking after the sunflower cross for Allison.

On another note, I'm still surprised that apparently EBC has not visited her son. Strange!

I've wondered why aswell. Hoping it's because she can't face him knowing what he's done... and hoping it's not because she's involved. If it's because she can't face him, I imagine if she also suspects that her hubby was involved somehow, it'd make for some rather interesting disagreements in the household.
BUT I still don't favour any theory as to why she hasn't seen him.... however I am still finding it hard to believe she cares about what happened to Allison over her own family.

 

[CaseClosed]

I think for many people, including myself, it is a big dilemma what to do when one hears arguments in the neighbours house. On one hand, one wonders, should I call the police just in case someone is being hurt, or should I stay out of it and mind my own business, after all, it could just be an argument. If any of ABC's neighbours heard arguments that fateful night and called the police, maybe she would be alive today. But, on the other hand, one cannot hold them responsible or criticise them if they did nothing. So many neighbourhood disputes start because someone gets involved, but on the other hand, if one does nothing, then things could escalate to the point of having dreadful consequences.

I have a family next door, where the arguments were going on on a daily basis, sometimes late a night. I put up with it for about a week and then I yelled out to them to shut up or I would call the police. After the husband swore at me a couple of times (which I ignored), in the end the arguments have stopped (or at least I can't hear them anymore).

 

[ActusReus]

Evening all ... I'd like to send a big Thank You to all the members who have gone to the bridge and placed flowers or are looking after the sunflower cross for Allison.

On another note, I'm still surprised that apparently EBC has not visited her son. Strange!

Maybe she's been banned too?

 

[CaseClosed]

Maybe she's been banned too?

She could still have non-contact visits, unless she has a criminal record. I just can't imagine a mother not wanting to see her son, when it appears that they are so close. But on the other hand, if she is in absolute shock at the thought of him being the alleged perp, maybe she can't face him.

 

[KG1]

Evening all ... I'd like to send a big Thank You to all the members who have gone to the bridge and placed flowers or are looking after the sunflower cross for Allison.

On another note, I'm still surprised that apparently EBC has not visited her son. Strange!

Maybe she does what she is told by the patriarch.

 

[CaseClosed]

Maybe she does what she is told by the patriarch.

Yes .. that could be a reason. Will see who shows up in Court on Monday.

 

[Mothergoose]

Evening all ... I'd like to send a big Thank You to all the members who have gone to the bridge and placed flowers or are looking after the sunflower cross for Allison.

On another note, I'm still surprised that apparently EBC has not visited her son. Strange!

Hi CC, It would be difficult to face your son (who is proclaiming innocence) if you felt/know in your heart otherwise. I try to put myself in her place ....and really what can you say you would be angry, hurt, disgusted and shocked ? I would stay away too. GBC has alledgedly destroyed her world/life. I imagine she is finding it difficult to face each day let alone visit her son under such circumstances. MOO

 

[CaseClosed]

Hi CC, It would be difficult to face your son (who is proclaiming innocence) if you felt/know in your heart otherwise. I try to put myself in her place ....and really what can you say? I would stay away too. GBC has alledgedly destroyed her world/life. I imagine she is finding it difficult to face each day let alone visit her son under such circumstances. MOO

Hi MG ... yes, I agree (if she had no knowledge of anything), but if she was somehow involved in the cover-up, then it doesn't make sense. It could be an indication that she had no knowledge of anything. IMO.