Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #35

[littlethings]

WHO REALLY PACKED THE LUNCHES? A busy mum with a big day ahead of her would have packed the lunches the night before. Allison had, had her hair done for the conference, the conference had an early start, she was busy Thursday planning for Friday...there would be little time to get anything done in the morning so there would be lots to get done in the mean time and lunches would have been a part of that wouldn't it?
WHY SEND A TEXT ABOUT THE LUNCHES? I suppose whoever sent the text must have thought it worth mentioning. If the sender thought it was relevant and wanted it known then it must be relevant...but how?
WERE THE LUNCHES PACKED IN GLAD WRAP? Glad Wrap is a plastic used to keep air out. It can be used in all sorts of manner. It also has a sharp serrated edge quite capable of causing a cut to the palm of the hand if you apply force to the box.
I suppose if it was mentioned in a text message and then brought up at a later date,( by something like an investigation,) you could always say," Öh yes, but I did pack the lunches, Remember, I sent it in that text"
Just me, raving on. Not fact.

 

[Crime and punishment]

I also saw that story and thought how eerily similar it sounded to Allisons murder and to GBC. The whole hitman story had me thinking about previous thoughts and posters regarding this theory.(not saying it is the case, just found it really interesting)

I agree UT-this statement by QC John Slattery could also apply to GBC...
A 1995 inquiry into Kalajzich’s conviction reached a damning conclusion, with QC John Slattery stating that “the very traits which made [Kalajzich] a successful businessman were also his undoing,” and that he “used people for his own ends in a calculated and considered way” and sought to blame many others for his predicament.

 

[Lu-Lu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crime and punishment
Just watched an absolutely fascinating story on Channel 7s Sunday program about a convicted wife murderer just released from prison after serving 25 years in jail. Still proclaiming his innocence incredibly -Kalajzich's situation and personality traits are similar to GBC -quite chilling really- although this fellow had a couple of attempts at murdering his poor wife before the dirty deed was completed by a hired hit man.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-nigh.../did-he-do-it/

I also saw that story and thought how eerily similar it sounded to Allisons murder and to GBC. The whole hitman story had me thinking about previous thoughts and posters regarding this theory.(not saying it is the case, just found it really interesting)

I watched that also and found it really interesting. Particularly the part when he was asked to describe Megan. He was very detached, and described her in a very factual way. Didn't say she was beautiful, or that he loved her at all. Yet, he did say that he loved his mistress.

Also intriguing is the fact that if this hired killer was trying to kill both of them, why didn't he try again to kill Kalajzich? He made a number of attempts on Megan until he accomplished his task. Yet never made another attempt on Kalajzich. Doesn't add up.

Both Kalajzich and GBC are noticeably quiet on finding the "real" killer of their wives respectively. Speaks volumes, doesn't it..?

I dare say in 25-30 years we'll be seeing GBC interviewed after he finally is released, and he'll still be declaring his innocence.

 

[linette]

Hi. Trying to catch up afteer the weekend... wow the last one was a very small thread, only 36 pages?

Anyway, at 11.30 pm last night the crime show on Channel 7 had a case where there were 5 bodies {serial killer} and 2 were found in water. They said that because they had been in water for so long {1 had been missing for 16 days, the other a week or so longer} there was no DNA or other helpful evidence on the bodies. It said it's the case even more so when they've been in flowing water. So there was nothing on their bodies that was found helpful.
There seems to be differing opinions on this type of thing.

 

[DrWatson]

There is a Doc Watson over there too and they even sound like they write the same. i wonder if Doc knows she has a twin over there haha.

Morning all Yes, somebody else mentioned the other Doc Watson - but I can assure you that it is NOT me. And I'm a "he" not a "she", by the way.. :blushing:

Given that the name Dr Watson was taken from the stories of the most famous sleuth of all time, Sherlock Holmes, I was surprised that the nick wasn't taken when I registered for here. And given that I am indeed a real quack, and verified as such, I thought the name was perfect for me.

So the other one must be an impostor - a wannabe...

I'm not on any other site, so you have me all to yourselves! lease:

 

[DrWatson]

Hi. Trying to catch up afteer the weekend... wow the last one was a very small thread, only 36 pages?

Anyway, at 11.30 pm last night the crime show on Channel 7 had a case where there were 5 bodies {serial killer} and 2 were found in water. They said that because they had been in water for so long {1 had been missing for 16 days, the other a week or so longer} there was no DNA or other helpful evidence on the bodies. It said it's the case even more so when they've been in flowing water. So there was nothing on their bodies that was found helpful.
There seems to be differing opinions on this type of thing.

Well, being a surgeon and not a forensic pathologist, I would be VERY surprised if there were "no DNA". DNA can be found even on skeletons that have been buried for decades. And bodies that have been in water actually decompose more slowly than those left above ground in the open air. Especially in cool water. Bodies buried in the ground decompose the most slowly.

I didn't see the programme, so I don't know what context was used for those claims, but I'm sure that DNA would be plentiful. Heavens above - they can even find DNA on the licked gum of a stamp - another source of potential evidence spoiled by self-adhesive stamps!

 

[ollijack]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-nigh.../did-he-do-it/


I watched that also and found it really interesting. Particularly the part when he was asked to describe Megan. He was very detached, and described her in a very factual way. Didn't say she was beautiful, or that he loved her at all. Yet, he did say that he loved his mistress.

Also intriguing is the fact that if this hired killer was trying to kill both of them, why didn't he try again to kill Kalajzich? He made a number of attempts on Megan until he accomplished his task. Yet never made another attempt on Kalajzich. Doesn't add up.

Both Kalajzich and GBC are noticeably quiet on finding the "real" killer of their wives respectively. Speaks volumes, doesn't it..?

I dare say in 25-30 years we'll be seeing GBC interviewed after he finally is released, and he'll still be declaring his innocence.

Has anyone seen a movie starring the gorgeous Colin Friels as the main detective ? Based on Kalajzich. It was brilliant. It could be about GBCS

 

[Maigret]

Has anyone seen a movie starring the gorgeous Colin Friels as the main detective ? Based on Kalajzich. It was brilliant. It could be about GBCS

My Husband, My Killer made in 2001
Haven't seen it but will now look for it

 

[Gemini Girl]

Is Lloyd Rayney charged with interfering with a corpse?

Hi Maigret

I will check this out with the Sandgropers on the Corryn Rayney thread and get back to you

:maddening:

JMO MOO

 

[ollijack]

OT
To Do List for Web Sleuthers...
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:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: that is so funny and so true xxxxx

 

[Curiousasacat]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: that is so funny and so true xxxxx

LOL. Love it, very true. Except for the last few days. First time I've been bored a little bit for months but I guess I'll be ok.
: )

 

[Curiousasacat]

I see new names lurking. Maybe you guys can add something?

 

[alioop]

i just had a browse on the aussie crooks site, i got sidetracked trying to find out when allison found out about the affair still going on, and read that the person who reported seeing the blue and white cars actually took down the numbers and gave to police. i guess its a rumour but if anyones interested, its about 31 posts down by someone called kenmore mum. actually the whole page is quite interesting

http://aussiecriminals.com.au/2012/...and-gerard-had-an-affairbut-we-all-knew-that/

I wonder if QPS would have been asking other similar car owners their whereabouts to exclude the possibility it was their car sighted, if they already had credible evidence of the number plates of the sighted cars? I think that would be unlikely but maybe just thorough investigation practice. Although thinking about it further, the involved car/s must have been driving all over the place that night and if only one witness took down a number plate at a certain location , the QPS would need to exclude other similar cars from a number of locations.

PS. I would think that such critical evidence of a number plate being taken at a location near to where Allison was found would have been in the prosecutions bail hearing affidavit. Not that I know if it wasn't as I haven't read it, but I haven't heard that information mentioned anywhere.

 

[Curiousasacat]

I wonder if QPS would have been asking other similar car owners their whereabouts to exclude the possibility it was their car sighted, if they already had credible evidence of the number plates of the sighted cars? I think that would be unlikely but maybe just thorough investigation practice. Although thinking about it further, the involved car/s must have been driving all over the place that night and if only one witness took down a number plate at a certain location , the QPS would need to exclude other similar cars from a number of locations.

We do have a member here who verified she was contacted by QPS as she drives a similar car to the Captiva.

 

[Aussie_expat.sg]

Morning all Yes, somebody else mentioned the other Doc Watson - but I can assure you that it is NOT me. And I'm a "he" not a "she", by the way.. :blushing:

Given that the name Dr Watson was taken from the stories of the most famous sleuth of all time, Sherlock Holmes, I was surprised that the nick wasn't taken when I registered for here. And given that I am indeed a real quack, and verified as such, I thought the name was perfect for me.

So the other one must be an impostor - a wannabe...

I'm not on any other site, so you have me all to yourselves! lease:

Doc, we are very glad to have you on our site. I personally appreciate your no nonsense style. I like people who are straight forward. I like my Doctors to be the same (not as common where I'm living right now I'm afraid).

 

[alioop]

We do have a member here who verified she was contacted by QPS as she drives a similar car to the Captiva.

That's my point CC. We know QPS were trying to exclude other similar vehicles as they did contact other car owners. But it would be interesting to know what locations QPS asked those people about. Can any of those car owners if here on websleuths help to answer this please.

 

[Bayside]

Morning all Yes, somebody else mentioned the other Doc Watson - but I can assure you that it is NOT me. And I'm a "he" not a "she", by the way.. :blushing:

Given that the name Dr Watson was taken from the stories of the most famous sleuth of all time, Sherlock Holmes, I was surprised that the nick wasn't taken when I registered for here. And given that I am indeed a real quack, and verified as such, I thought the name was perfect for me.

So the other one must be an impostor - a wannabe...

I'm not on any other site, so you have me all to yourselves! lease:

Well I hear we are all supposed to have our twin out there someplace, that might be yours lol.

Sorry I never knew you were a guy, I always got female vibes haha .. mind you I have a fat dude as my avatar lol.

 

[alioop]

Well, being a surgeon and not a forensic pathologist, I would be VERY surprised if there were "no DNA". DNA can be found even on skeletons that have been buried for decades. And bodies that have been in water actually decompose more slowly than those left above ground in the open air. Especially in cool water. Bodies buried in the ground decompose the most slowly.

I didn't see the programme, so I don't know what context was used for those claims, but I'm sure that DNA would be plentiful. Heavens above - they can even find DNA on the licked gum of a stamp - another source of potential evidence spoiled by self-adhesive stamps!

Doc are you referring to the deceased persons DNA or any other person's ( say the killer's) DNA?

 

[alioop]

WHO REALLY PACKED THE LUNCHES? A busy mum with a big day ahead of her would have packed the lunches the night before. Allison had, had her hair done for the conference, the conference had an early start, she was busy Thursday planning for Friday...there would be little time to get anything done in the morning so there would be lots to get done in the mean time and lunches would have been a part of that wouldn't it?
WHY SEND A TEXT ABOUT THE LUNCHES? I suppose whoever sent the text must have thought it worth mentioning. If the sender thought it was relevant and wanted it known then it must be relevant...but how?
WERE THE LUNCHES PACKED IN GLAD WRAP? Glad Wrap is a plastic used to keep air out. It can be used in all sorts of manner. It also has a sharp serrated edge quite capable of causing a cut to the palm of the hand if you apply force to the box.
I suppose if it was mentioned in a text message and then brought up at a later date,( by something like an investigation,) you could always say," Öh yes, but I did pack the lunches, Remember, I sent it in that text"
Just me, raving on. Not fact.

I bet the girls could tell if their lunches were packed by mummy or daddy that day.

Edit. Now telling the police that he cut his hand on the serrated glad wrap box edge would have been a credible explanation for the cut to his palm though they would have tested the serrations and not found any of his skin or blood and he would have been caught out lying yet again!

 

[Maigret]

I bet the girls could tell if their lunches were packed by mummy or daddy that day.

Ain't that the truth