Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #35

[Maigret]

Re lunches, I always make the lunches the night before and if for some reason I didn't, i.e sick, my husband would give them tuck shop money, not make lunches!

Their tuck shop isn't open on Fridays
http://www.brookfieldss.eq.edu.au/content/about/tuckshop.php

 

[Liadan]

Hey guys I think that post will get me in big trouble - 'tongue in cheek' is something aussies do but I don't think I can convince our wonderful moderators that I am not being antagonistic. Its my lack of debating skills. (Blame my high school)

So I want to say - please keep up the work and I really enjoy reading your work! If you don't see me for a few days.

And Aussie_mum is great at being devils advocate so we really have to use her to comments to extend and enahance our discussions here. We rarely come up against pro GBC at this stage so lets be up to the challenge of taking on someone who differs from our opinion!

Love to all my WS'ers and you Aussie_Mum
Liadan!!!

 

[Indromum]

BIG shout out to Wozzle.

 

[aussie_mum]

I'm not pro GBC. I'm anti rumour and comments making fun of people involved in the case. I'm anti assumptions made on feelings of people who have never stepped into the BC house let alone having met them. I'm anti making assumptions based on flawed information with personalisation.

 

[Liadan]

Thumbs up Aussie_mum!

 

[Liadan]

Just a question then- so you think if your hubby had committed himself to a relationship outside his immediate family that he was far more committed to than his first realtionship- would he care to be doing a job that his wife normally completed?

Thanks
Liadan

 

[Bayside]

HELLO! You guys aren't sleuthing people who aren't named suspects in Allison's murder, ARE YOU?

Of course not! I didn't think so! :angel:

Only Bruce Almighty or Bruce Overland lol.

 

[Bayside]

Not even kidding,this movie just started on the channel I'm pretending to watch : )

Its a sign lol... its also a really bad movie.

 

[Liadan]

Only Bruce Almighty or Bruce Overland lol.

Your avatars Bayside - just keep getting better and betterer! (NOT!!!):seeya:

 

[J-Diggety]

I'm not pro GBC. I'm anti rumour and comments making fun of people involved in the case. I'm anti assumptions made on feelings of people who have never stepped into the BC house let alone having met them. I'm anti making assumptions based on flawed information with personalisation.

Respect

 

[Makara]

A local couple I know have a grey Captiva, reg in wifes name. They were phoned, wife was asleep, but they seemed fine to question hubby. they asked if either of them had been out driving the vehicle between 11pm and 4am, specifically were they at Mt Crosby Rd, Anstead, and were they on Mt Crosby Rd near Kholo Creek or Kholo Bridge. Nothing asked about Scout Camp or road leading to it. Nothing was asked about roundabout.

Thanks itsthevibe. Perhaps the police were following up only on the reported sightings of the two vehicles at Anstead and near Kholo Creek that night. There have been no reports from QPS or MSM that any vehicles were sighted at the scout camp at all. That's not to say that one or more of the BC's vehicles didn't go there.

IMO QPS know exactly where those vehicles travelled that night during the hours of interest. Putting GBC behind the wheel in another thing entirely. IMO QPS would not have charged GBC with interference of a body at Kholo Creek if they could not put him there.

MOO.

 

[aussie_mum]

Just a question then- so you think if your hubby had committed himself to a relationship outside his immediate family that he was far more committed to than his first realtionship- would he care to be doing a job that his wife normally completed?

Thanks
Liadan

My children's father had a year long affair with a woman he eventually married. During this time he continued to do his parenting duties including cooking dinner, getting up through the night, changing nappies, helping with homework, making lunches for school, sharing duties at the hospital and all those things. Having affairs and still performing parenting duties are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Makara]

Their tuck shop isn't open on Fridays
http://www.brookfieldss.eq.edu.au/content/about/tuckshop.php

Well there you go. So someone had to have made the girl's lunches and in all probability GBC did. He knew that Allison wasn't going to be there to do it, so he had to, in between texting Allison etc. Wouldn't he have died in the arse if she'd answered him? :what:

 

[Makara]

Wow..a white van!!

Yeah I know! A bit hinky??

 

[linette]

Well, being a surgeon and not a forensic pathologist, I would be VERY surprised if there were "no DNA". DNA can be found even on skeletons that have been buried for decades. And bodies that have been in water actually decompose more slowly than those left above ground in the open air. Especially in cool water. Bodies buried in the ground decompose the most slowly.

I didn't see the programme, so I don't know what context was used for those claims, but I'm sure that DNA would be plentiful. Heavens above - they can even find DNA on the licked gum of a stamp - another source of potential evidence spoiled by self-adhesive stamps!

I t was basically saying how the first 2 victims were found in water... the second was found as they searched for evidence from the first one. It said how police were unable to get any evidence from the naked bodies as they'd been left in water for at least 16 days... and that it was even worse because it had been flowing water.

I just mentioned it because of the conversations we'd all had on here regarding this issue. I wasn't really said in any context other than what I've said. Maybe someone else saw it, his next 2 victims were left in bushland, one was laid out like she was on a cross.

 

[marlywings]

So go find them.

I have looked thanks...none that I've found. You brought the subject up & made the statement of there being "many" media reports in which it's mentioned ""He was engaged with the kids school and extra curricular activities""

If you can't back up your statement then I take it they don't exist.

 

[linette]

Ahh - now I see the ambiguity. Sorry - I was referring to the deceased person's DNA. It didn't occur to me that the offender's DNA was what was being referred to. That makes sense, if talking about skin scrapings under nails, etc etc. Yes - that may well be all washed away. But not the deceased person's DNA.

Duh..! Sorry - I shouldn't jump to conclusions!
:blushing:

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I was referring to the killers DNA. They had no trouble identifying who the 2 women were, just got no help finding the killer.

 

[DrWatson]

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I was referring to the killers DNA. They had no trouble identifying who the 2 women were, just got no help finding the killer.

Glad we got that cleared up :rocker: It was just me jumping to assumptions about WHOSE DNA was being referred to. :truce:

 

[marlywings]

Speaking of DNA/forensics, I was looking through some old reports today & remembered this interesting info & I've bolded the parts which are interesting although he may be just speaking generally about bodies in water.

May 01, 2012

Now forensic investigators must try to determine what killed her and how - something made much more challenging by the 11 days her body has spent submerged in water.

With the weekend's heavy rain prompting concerns the body had washed downstream to its final resting place, it has almost certainly suffered through harsh environmental conditions.

One of Queensland's leading forensic experts, Dr Paul Bennett of Queensland University of Technology's clinical school, said the biggest obstacle for officers was the body's level of decomposition.

He said that even though the case was now being treated as a homicide, all potential causes of death must be considered.

"The body's got to get there one way or another so there's always an entry point and an exit point," he said.

"That's really where a lot of it will start. The scenes-of-crimes officers will spend a good deal of time breaking down the natural environment to look for the entry and exit points -that's very critical.

"Typically, there'll be attempts to look at the site for trace evidence in and around it."

Dr Bennett, who works for Queensland Police Service as a forensic consultant and was involved in the Daniel Morcombe case, said the investigation would take weeks, possibly months, to conclude and the water temperature would make it more difficult.

"Part of the reason the body's put in the water is to conceal as much trace evidence as possible," he said."

But then getting in and out of the scenes where evidence is going to be left - everywhere from the premises to the scene and in between - will be assessed pretty much.

"Any of those investigations are going to take a period of time for the pathologist to really analyse the body and get a really good understanding of the cause of death.

"Sometimes it's obvious and other times it's painstakingly slow."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...lison-baden-clay/story-e6freoof-1226343152532

 

[Amee]

``She dressed them; she fed them; she ran them around. She fed not only their day-to-day wellbeing but she also fed their minds.''

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...says-best-friend/story-e6freoof-1226353690726