Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #38

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  • #621
Why do the BCs have control of the estate? Surely no insurance policy payout. What would the estate be? Allison's superannuation?
Imagine GBC having any of Allison's estate (Super, Insurance etc) at his disposal to use to defend him? Her will probably named him as beneficiary. Alioop are you around to advise...
 
  • #622
Thanks Marly.

There's just something about seeing DICKIE -V- BADEN-CLAY that makes me feel good.

I'll say it again,

Go Geoffy! :rocker: :woohoo:

I felt exactly the same Makara!!!...& yesss gooo Geoff & the Dickie family!!!
 
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  • #624
The video link is up.
 
  • #625
Thanks Marly.

There's just something about seeing DICKIE -V- BADEN-CLAY that makes me feel good.

I'll say it again,

Go Geoffy! :rocker: :woohoo:
So pleased to see DICKIE vs BADEN-CLAY. Go Dickies - stand up for Allison. You have the community behind you.
 
  • #626
Well I guess OW will have to start passing the plate around again...lol

If they could afford $500,000 bail money they can afford to pay out on the estate to the Dickies.

I wonder if people will donate now that they have heard what was mentioned at the bail hearing. How many are now regretting donating when Ow sent the first email?
 
  • #627
So pleased to see DICKIE vs BADEN-CLAY. Go Dickies - stand up for Allison. You have the community behind you.

:fireworks2:
 
  • #628
September 04, 2012: The death of Brookfield woman Allison Baden-Clay has taken another twist, with her father lodging a special application to secure control of her assets.

Allison's father Geoff Dickie has applied to the Supreme Court to get, protect & collect her assets & pay any debts. The papers have been served on Gerard Baden Clay, Allisons husband, currently in Arthur Gorrie Correctional Centre charged with her murder.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx
 
  • #629
This may also have something to do with getting back the furniture etc. from the Brookfield house that Nigelaine wouldn't release to the Dickie's because in their opinion it all belonged to Gerard. Part of what the reporter said is that Geoff Dickie has lodged documents to "get, protect and collect" Allison's assets.

I'm so pleased that Geoff Dickie is standing up to that lot. I really wish I could give him a big hug.
 
  • #630
My heavens what a watershed support for the Dickies - proud of you guys here! It is just so good- I am 3000% behind Geoff and the Dickie Family for preserving any assets for the girls. They are the real victims in this crime.

There is no need for GBC to gain any monetary advantage from Allisons death - he was screwing her over way before he killed her! He gets 3 square meals and a bed to sleep in - more than he deserves for mis-treating his family and for being a total fRuitfly of a husband. (artistic license used)
 
  • #631
This may also have something to do with getting back the furniture etc. from the Brookfield house that Nigelaine wouldn't release to the Dickie's because in their opinion it all belonged to Gerard. Part of what the reporter said is that Geoff Dickie has lodged documents to "get, protect and collect" Allison's assets.

I'm so pleased that Geoff Dickie is standing up to that lot. I really wish I could give him a big hug.

Yes you'd have to wonder where all the furniture etc went to, was it all sold off??

A report from when they cleared out the house...

July 01, 2012

While the accused killer remains behind bars after last month's failed bail hearing, his parents Nigel and Elaine loaded up a trailer with goods, including their son's golf clubs, at the house yesterday.

A removalist truck was also seen at the rented house and the owner confirmed the lease expired on Monday last week

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...brookfield-house/story-e6freoof-1226413239229
 
  • #632
So tomorrow how long should this hearing take? It looks like there are a whole lot on at the same time.
 
  • #633
The dickies were standing next to GBC at the funeral, were they watching and worried over the children? What fear they must have suffered when GBC was looking after the children before the arrest. I wonder what information they know now & at what point did they actually realise that GBC murdered Allison. The Dickies are salt of the earth people.

Touché !!
 
  • #634
Geoff Dickie is sticking it up Gerard. Court hearing tomorrow morning.

I first read this as ' Geoff Dickie sticking up for Gerard'. That would have been a twist in the case :what::what: :doh::doh:
 
  • #635
Wow - I'm busy for a few hours, and loads of stuff happens!

Dickies vs GBC

Possible charges against Graham Stafford again??? Surely they're kidding - he's already done the time...

Then there's this from today:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/my-father-killed-leanne-holland-20100408-rtxh.html

Sorry - off-topic re Allison, I know, but relevant I think. And yes - very good point you made earlier Marly about all the ones that they DID get right.

Wonder what assets the Dickies are trying to get? Bank accounts? Super? Share of the business proceeds? Do they get the debts that GBC notched up as well, as Allison would have been jointly responsible even though she presumably knew nothing about them?

Or would it just be the proceeds of the various fund-raisings? I know that lawyers have tied up the proceeds from the Brookfield fund-raisers tighter than a fish's bum, as they say - there is no way that GBC can get hold of any of that. Will be interesting, to say the least!
 
  • #636
So tomorrow how long should this hearing take? It looks like there are a whole lot on at the same time.

Nads, I don't know how long the hearing will take. What I am wondering though is who will actually be there. Obviously Geoff and maybe Pricilla Dickie will attend. It will be interesting to see if any of the clan turn up to represent GBC. I wouldn't be surprised if twisted sister is there. Although they'll probably leave it to GBC's lawyer to work it out.

I so wish I could be there tomorrow. Not so much to attend the actual hearing but to just be there to give the Dickie's support, however ineffectual it may be.
 
  • #637
I am not surprised by tomorrow’s court application by Mr Dickie. I have been expecting it. My educated guess ( having done many court applications for deceased estates) is that Allison appointed GBC as her executor in her will like most spouses do. He is probably also her sole beneficiary in the event he survives her for 30 days and if not then it would likely be the 3 girls. Most spouses then provide alternate or back up executors in case their spouse can’t act as executor because, to use the common will wording “ they are unable or unwilling to act or die before my estate is completely administered”.

Allison probably appointed her father Mr Dickie as her back up executor. GBC being in remand is clearly unable to act as executor. As Keentoknow told us, persons in remand can’t do anything to do with paperwork relating to finances. Therefore GBC would not be allowed to act as executor because of remand rules. An executor can renounce his appointment as executor if they don’t want to or cannot do the job. That then leaves the back up executor free to apply to the Supreme Court registry for a Grant of Probate of the will without it having to go before a judge. It is usually a straightforward process. I am sure GBC could get permission from the prison to sign such a document renouncing his appointment as executor. The fact that Mr Dickie is having to make a court application could mean 2 things. Either GBC has refused to sign a renunciation or maybe Mr Dickie is not the back up executor in the will.

Whatever is the situation, it appears from the news report that Mr Dickie is making an application to the Supreme Court for an order that he be appointed to administer Allison’s estate. If successful, he then has the legal authority of the court to collect her assets including life insurance and superannuation, pay her estate debts ( which may be a tricky job to work out what the estate is liable for) and then invest and hold the balance estate upon trust for whoever may ultimately be entitled to it. If GBC is the sole beneficiary then it won’t be known if he is entitled to the estate until he is either convicted or acquitted of the murder charges. If he is convicted then he is not allowed to benefit from his victim’s estate and the alternate beneficiaries, likely the girls, will be the beneficiaries when they turn 18. If he is acquitted then he will be entitled.

So tomorrow’s application may be contested or uncontested. There will be a callover by the judge at 10am when he will ask for estimates of time from the lawyers that each of the matters listed will take. He will then say what order he intends to hear those matters. Eventually Mr Dickie’s matter will be heard and hopefully an order made on the spot. It could take about an hour. I expect that Mr Dickie would be there with his lawyer. GBC’s lawyer may also be there, but I expect that GBC would not oppose the orders sought.

We will no doubt find out what happens tomorrow by MSM reports.
 
  • #638
Woody I don't think you are overreacting. With this mob anything will be possible. I fear it's going to be a dirty fight. I'm hoping Allison's friends and family had some texts confirming their fears and concerns. But then they will have to prove everything. A text can be read several different ways and the defence is going to go hard. :banghead::jail:

In the meantime just imagine poor GBC still picking out stingers imbedded deep in his private parts from those caterpillars.....mmm that's gives me a smile:floorlaugh:

If the caterpillar claim is true, and I have my doubts, where did he pick up the caterpillar from? Did it attach itself to him while he pushed through the bush that night perhaps? hmmm Maybe Dr Milne is examining this possibility.
 
  • #639
Thank you Alioop. Awesome information.

If I recall correctly, OW was granted Power of Attorney by GBC? Does this play into tomorrow's hearing at all?

Does Power of Attorney also mean that OW could represent GBC financial interests, including his estate?

Or is the estate in this particular situation not part of the Power of Attorney grant?
 
  • #640
Thank you Alioop. Awesome information.

If I recall correctly, OW was granted Power of Attorney by GBC? Does this play into tomorrow's hearing at all?

Does Power of Attorney also mean that OW could represent GBC financial interests, including his estate?

Or is the estate in this particular situation not part of the Power of Attorney grant?

Thanks Summer. Any Power of attorney that GBC may have given OW applies only to his personal finances not to anything that he may hold in a trustee capacity like an executor of a deceased estate. This is because a trustee cannot delegate his responsibilities to the trust, or as in this case an estate which is a type of trust. There is an exception where the executor is out of the jurisdiction, they can appoint an attorney within the jurisdiction. But that does not apply here as the jurisdiction is QLD and GBC is within the jurisdiction.
 
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