Amanda Knox Discussion-Friendly Thread

  • #381
as someone new to this case, who has read just a few overviews, I have to ask... is there anything at all that points to knox and her bf being involved? anything that points to anything other than guede?

afaict, the police and/or prosecution jumped to conclusions early based on essentially nothing, interpreted evidence with confirmation bias, and then spent way too long clinging to a position they were invested in out of dumb pride or whatever.
Not a thing. Language differences (inexact translation) and Amanda's knowledge of only basic Italian were used against her, they didn't bring in a translator, and wouldn't let her talk to a lawyer when she asked for one. Then they created a theory of a sadistic orgy and bent over backwards to make any evidence fit the narrative, any time new ---- came to light.
 
  • #382
I'm sorry but regardless of what happened..Amanda went to jail for slander and falsely identifying someone as a killer. Mig's suspicions of Amanda were not unfounded and I feel he deserves more credit than he gets, not only that this has been very hard on his reputation. I feel he gets a lot of criticism he doesn't deserve. His hinky meter was pinging on Amanda and hinky is his job!

mOO.
That in itself is an injustice. Who goes to jail for slander? As far as the murder goes, the suspicions being unfounded is one thing, not enough evidence to charge/convict of murder is another. Most homicide cases start with multiple persons of interest before the evidence leads them to the main suspects. There was never any evidence tying her to the murder. And yes, when you willfully ignore/invent evidence (he told MANY lies, WAY more than her), you're lucky if all you get is "criticism". He should be disbarred like Nifong. Why should I feel any sympathy for someone who kept a person he knew to be innocent in a cage for years, ruining their life? No, his job is JUSTICE, not simply finding someone to pin the murder on.
 
  • #383
so improper interrogation caused Amanda to lie and say her boss murdered her roommate?

I'm sorry but you could mis-interrogate me all day long and I would not spit out a total fiction about someone I know. nope , not a chance..you can mis-interrogate me all day , starve me, hit me...go ahead..I'm not turning in a friend, boss, relative, acquaintance or even a dog...no way. mOO
If you are under pressure then yeah you might lie or say something you don't mean. When I'm stressed or upset I say things I 1000% don't mean or feel. Why do I say them then? I just assume the stress makes me so it. Not that this is a regular occurrence but every once in a while.
 
  • #384
so improper interrogation caused Amanda to lie and say her boss murdered her roommate?

I'm sorry but you could mis-interrogate me all day long and I would not spit out a total fiction about someone I know. nope , not a chance..you can mis-interrogate me all day , starve me, hit me...go ahead..I'm not turning in a friend, boss, relative, acquaintance or even a dog...no way. mOO
i would lawyer up immediately knowing what i know, but i also know for a fact that if i were younger/in a foreign place, i would fold IMMEDIATELY. that’s me totally honest and realistic with myself when it comes to these extremely high stress and aggressive situations. call me a wimp, maybe i’m not as brave as OP.
 
  • #385
If you are under pressure then yeah you might lie or say something you don't mean. When I'm stressed or upset I say things I 1000% don't mean or feel. Why do I say them then? I just assume the stress makes me so it. Not that this is a regular occurrence but every once in a while.
Not to mention, she had no translator or lawyer so anything she said should've been thrown out anyway. She retracted it not long afterwards. There was no reason to suspect her boss except for her word that was clearly made under duress (and a text where they didn't acknowledge the most common of American slangs), so no arrest should've been made. Had LE not acted on that, no harm would've come to his business or his reputation. (Not saying she bears no responsibility for implicating him - she acknowledged that also. It's understandable, but she still should have kept her composure enough that she didn't get others in trouble.)

i would lawyer up immediately knowing what i know, but i also know for a fact that if i were younger/in a foreign place, i would fold IMMEDIATELY. that’s me totally honest and realistic with myself when it comes to these extremely high stress and aggressive situations. call me a wimp, maybe i’m not as brave as OP.
You're not a wimp, any sane person would lawyered up (and left the interview if none were available). She asked for one once she realized they were treating her as a suspect and not a witness, but unfortunately your right to legal council isn't recognized in Italy.
 
  • #386
i would lawyer up immediately knowing what i know, but i also know for a fact that if i were younger/in a foreign place, i would fold IMMEDIATELY. that’s me totally honest and realistic with myself when it comes to these extremely high stress and aggressive situations. call me a wimp, maybe i’m not as brave as OP.

you lawyer up and keep your mouth shut. period...end of story. you just don't talk. and if your'e innocent there is nothing to fold to...even if you are hysterical crying, you don't answer anything without your attorney! Murder is serious biz..and if they are looking at you, you don't say my boss did it in order to leave. mOO
 
  • #387
you lawyer up and keep your mouth shut. period...end of story. you just don't talk. and if your'e innocent there is nothing to fold to...even if you are hysterical crying, you don't answer anything without your attorney! Murder is serious biz..and if they are looking at you, you don't say my boss did it in order to leave. mOO
sure. per my last post, we agree there for sure. what i am stressing here is that in a foreign country and under duress, i see myself folding in a variety of ways lol. just my two cents here.

You're not a wimp, any sane person would lawyered up (and left the interview if none were available). She asked for one once she realized they were treating her as a suspect and not a witness, but unfortunately your right to legal council isn't recognized in Italy.
thank you! it just seems like an all-around terrifying situation for sure.
 
  • #388
i don't have hard data here, but AIUI it's well-established that if you interrogate someone long enough, harshly enough, without counsel, a lot of people will falsely confess their own guilt. especially in a situation where they don't know their rights, or even speak the language well enough to avoid being trapped by word games. ... coerced confessions are a thing.

and if doing that to a person can get them to falsely confess their own guilt, it's not hard to imagine it can get them to wrongly point the finger at someone else.
 
  • #389
it is terrifying for sure, I have gotten hysterical getting a ticket, total over reacting so I get it....but this is something so serious...she should have had a lawyer immediately. it should have never have gotten as far as it did. I do understand that part. I do understand they ganged up on her. the ball was dropped in terms of her rights at that point...although I'm not sure what rights she had as a foreigner in Italy. I am dying to know about this mystery person who fled the country... and what do they mean by "fled" the country ? mOO
 

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