Amanda Knox found guilty for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy #15

[aa9511]

I especially like what Mr. Dershowitz said about Amanda's looks at how they have helped her, plus the fact that she's White. That is just the truth. As I"ve said before, if Amanda was a homeless-looking overweight woman with stringy hair and crooked teeth, no one would care about her. There would be NO outcry of support. There would instead be condemnation, and calls of "pay for what you've done" and "she needs to pay." "we don't want her on our soil." "extradite her, it's only fair." "Meredith deserves justice."

Instead, we have completely opposite sentiment in the United States.

 

[Vinny]

All she is doing is dragging out the inevitable and ensuring that when she finishes her sentence she'll be an old lady.

 

[otto]

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And look at this, Otto:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-01-31-19-20-33

After all the odd comments we've heard about extradition, finally people with knowledge about the subject are speaking up. It sounds like extradition would be a mere formality. It also sounds like the US is not going to take a chance, refuse to extradite a convicted murderer, and then suffer the consequences next time they want a terrorist from Europe.

 

[Linda7NJ]

All she is doing is dragging out the inevitable and ensuring that when she finishes her sentence she'll be an old lady.

There's still the issue about her lies claiming she was tortured by police!

Link in ottos post above.


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[aa9511]

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And look at this, Otto:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-01-31-19-20-33

I am not going to sit back and encourage the United States to break an extradition treaty with another country, thinking that it is no big deal. It's only one person, Amanda. Well, the world doesn't revolve around Amanda. Next time there might be, God forbid, some terrorist of Italian citizenship convicted of carrying out or plotting an attack on the US, and because US didn't extradite poor little Amanda Knox, this terrorist gets to stay free in Italy and plot more attacks. No way.

***SMK, this post was not directed at your post, it was just a jumping off post for my thoughts.

 

[redheadedgal]

She drops in the reference to talking to the priest at the prison and makes it sound like he supports her.

but he does... and he believes in her innocence:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/amanda-knox-appeal-prison-chaplain-82686

She does herself no favors because she does not come off as genuine at all...

no surprise i saw the exact opposite...

What Knox did not say:

What Amanda Knox left out of her book - YouTube

there are plenty of errors in her book too...

 

[otto]

All she is doing is dragging out the inevitable and ensuring that when she finishes her sentence she'll be an old lady.

It's a wasted life ... deserved for someone that destroyed so many other lives.

 

[aa9511]

I can't even stand American CNN!

CNN is far better in other countries! IMO .....where the top story isn't Kim kadashian pays a tailor 5k a day to make her butt look good.

I prefer BBC news.




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:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[otto]

I am not going to sit back and encourage the United States to break an extradition treaty with another country, thinking that it is no big deal. It's only one person, Amanda. Well, the world doesn't revolve around Amanda. Next time there might be, God forbid, some terrorist of Italian citizenship convicted of carrying out or plotting an attack on the US, and because US didn't extradite poor little Amanda Knox, this terrorist gets to stay free in Italy and plot more attacks. No way.

***SMK, this post was not directed at your post, it was just a jumping off post for my thoughts.

If Knox can avoid the consequences for murder by hiding in the US, then other people from the US will do the exact same thing ... commit murder in another country (this could be the murderer's spouse, acquaintances, business rivals) and then hide out in the US. Knox will be the precedent. Also, as you point out, terrorists will flee to Italy because they will know that the extradition treaty between the US and Italy is broken.

 

[quesarita]

How do you "know" RG stole from her? The purse on the bed was an empty purse, it was not the purse Meredith was carrying the night she was killed and it was collected on dec 18th after sitting there for 46days.

I think he stole her phones and her keys from her. Apparently she should have had $300. for rent in her room, and Rudy said it was stolen (by Amanda) from a drawer. Why didn't he think it was in her purse as you do?

 

[redheadedgal]

I will be surprised if the US denies extradition. This was a murder of a British woman in Italy. I would hope that the Brits would add some pressure to the US having to accept.

but yet the UK denied extradition to the US in the case below... seems a double standard in light of this imo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23938226


:seeya:

 

[Linda7NJ]

In its ruling, deposited in June, the court of cassation had ordered the Florence court to "remedy the flaws in argumentation" of the previous appeal court by analysing the body of evidence against Knox and Sollecito as a whole rather than in a fragmented fashion, and by deciding "whether the relative ambiguity of each piece of evidence can be resolved".
Strongly critical of the Perugia appeals court's handling of the case, the cassation court alleged that there had been a litany of procedural failures: a "manifest lack of logic" here, a "bald assertion with no factual basis" there, even, at one point, "factual deductions deriving from a series of conjectures and baseless suppositions".
Among many other criticisms, the cassazione faulted the court for not having considered Knox's slander of the bar owner Patrick Lumumba, together with the murder charge, and for not having taken into account the sentence of the only man convicted of Kercher's murder, Rudy Guede, which said he had not acted alone.

More at link.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/30/meredith-kercher-murder-knox-sollecito-barbed-wire

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[redheadedgal]

Here's the organization.
http://www.fairtrials.org/

thank you. an interesting quote found on that site:

The need for trials and findings of guilt or innocence to happen swiftly is universally recognised under international human rights instruments, including the European Convention on Human Rights. In fact, the European Court of Human Rights has found over 2,000 violations by Italy of Article 6.1 of the Convention (comprising both civil and criminal cases), which protects the right to a trial in a reasonable time. There were 16 such violations found in 2013 alone. It is this troubling record of non-compliance with key fair trial rights that rightly deserves political and legal attention to reform.

the reason why amanda feared going back to italy is because she knew she was guilty.

jmo

or she feared going back b/c she is innocent...

Thanks. Barbie Nadeau spells it out quite clearly: that the David Mariott PR Firm influenced how the US public understood the case.

again, barbie makes several mistakes in her book and reportings...

And that PR firm did a pretty good job of it. It's crazy to see people commenting on other sites things that are completely false as facts. Things like the knife has been proven not to be the murder weapon (nope), that it has been proven all the DNA evidence evidence pointing toward AK and RS is contaminated (false), that the crime scene was tampered with (where did they get that?), that RG confessed to the murder (as far as I know he still maintains his innocence), etc. etc.

so people are "crazy", "can't wrap their head around", and "haven't looked at the evidence at all" if they don't believe in guilt?

 

[pinkie60]

Seems quite a few legal experts are adamant that Knox will be extradited, if (more like when) Italy ask.

http://news.sky.com/story/1204117/amanda-knox-will-be-extradited-by-us

I don't know enough about the case to have an opinion of guilt or innocence, however just assuming she is innocent, if I were her I'd take off somewhere where they don't extradite. I wouldn't chance being sent back to Italy. Does Canada extradite?

 

[otto]

but yet the UK denied extradition to the US in the case below... seems a double standard in light of this imo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23938226


:seeya:

Does that seem like a comparable case ... comparable set of circumstances?

 

[Linda7NJ]

I don't think most people even realize the power of being inundated with one sided false claims & deliberate manipulation by a public relations team and a media all too willing to lap it up.




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[redheadedgal]

In her post-verdict statement, she claims that she expected better from the Italian justice system, but in her email to the court, she stated that she did not trust the court to find overturn her guilty verdict. Which is it: she expected better, or she expected a guilty verdict? Knox says whatever is convenient at the moment.

untrue. what she ACTUALLY wrote:

http://www.amandaknox.com/the-meredith-kercher-murder/

 

[Linda7NJ]

I don't know enough about the case to have an opinion of guilt or innocence, however just assuming she is innocent, if I were her I'd take off somewhere where they don't extradite. I wouldn't chance being sent back to Italy. Does Canada extradite?

Yes.

If it were me, and I was actually innocent...Cuba is lovely


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[otto]

I don't know enough about the case to have an opinion of guilt or innocence, however just assuming she is innocent, if I were her I'd take off somewhere where they don't extradite. I wouldn't chance being sent back to Italy. Does Canada extradite?

Canada extradite to all reasonable countries with the exception that the US must take the death penalty off the table before an extradition request can be honored.

Knox is not allowed to enter Canada (and most countries in the world) because of her slander conviction. The murder conviction means that this will be a life long fact.

 

[Myvice]

When you think about the timeline here, Travis Alexander was killed in 2008 and Arias didn't go to trial until 2013. This case was actually started much sooner.