Amanda Knox found guilty for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy #15

[otto]

I can't bare to watch.

I had more than my fill of listening to Knox watching the gma clip posted here.


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I can't watch much more ... it's the usual story of deny, deny, deny.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I would have added American to that list as well, but you think these things worked in her favor? In everyday life maybe, but not hardly in this case. These are some of the very reasons that the case got so much salacious publicity which only hurt her. These are also the reasons that some people are so resentful of her that they can't (or won't) take a dispassionate look at the evidence. You've heard people on this very forum say that she must be guilty because she uses big words or she's spoiled and entitled, etc.

I don't recall anyone saying she's guilty because of one of the reasons you stated above.

IMO it's not her vocabulary I have an issue with. It's the content. She uses too many words and still says NOTHING of any substance. "Word salad"
It's common among psychopathic personalities.

*that's not the only reason I believe her to be guilty.


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[Irish_Eyes]

Crap! I didn't mean Rudy!
Geez my mistake.
I meant her former boss the innocent one she pointed the finger at.

Sorry!


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Thank goodness! I was really waiting to hear how that worked, lol.

Yes, I think we all agree Patrick was yet another victim in all this.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Thank goodness! I was really waiting to hear how that worked, lol.



Yes, I think we all agree Patrick was yet another victim in all this.

And now I'm regretting using the word "crap"...after all the poop, poo and feces discussions this evening :/ lol


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[aa9511]

Can a Mod change one of the tags in the tag line? If not, can the person that made the tag change it? I noticed that one of the tags says "support the KerchNers". I feel that their correct name should be used instead of the typo. TIA

Thank you for pointing that out!

 

[aa9511]

Photographic evidence shows that it was clearly visible by just glancing into the toilet. The photo was taken by the police or the ones that collected the evidence from the cottage.

SHe mentions it in her book, too. So unless someone else wrote her book (well, I know the ghost writer, but you know what I mean), then it is true that she thought the poo was gone when the body was discovered. Also, as Amber pointed out, she mentions it in her e-mail. Those are all from her own words.

 

[Linda7NJ]

SHe mentions it in her book, too. So unless someone else wrote her book (well, I know the ghost writer, but you know what I mean), then it is true that she thought the poo was gone when the body was discovered. Also, as Amber pointed out, she mentions it in her e-mail. Those are all from her own words.

I can not bring myself to buy her book.
I also fear going blind from excessive eye rolling and head banging.


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[aa9511]

A sloppy person. A slightly drunk, or stoned, person not seeing straight. A downright dirty person.

The bigger question still is, why is this crap, (literally), being debated? Its not evidence that anybody murdered anybody, so what's the point?

It's not evidence?? The circumstances of the cottage on the morning when Meredith was discovered dead and lying in a pool of blood is not evidence and should be ignored??

 

[aa9511]

She committed a crime with Rudy Guede, and then deliberately left solid evidence of Rudy Guede's presence at the crime scene? And then she told the police a story about.....someone that wasn't Rudy Guede?

She must be the dumbest criminal conspirator, and the most inconsistent one too.

bbm

Exactly.

 

[aa9511]

I've been catching up on my reading and was hoping someone would post a link to something like this. hmmm, AK's lack of affect has always bugged me and I've been curious to what people who knew her made of her demeanor. I've never seen anything like it. moo

Hi, you can probably just search on youtube for Amanda Knox interviews or something like that, I'm sure you will find a bunch.

 

[aa9511]

Knox, in response to why she said that "Meredith f-ing bled to death", Knox said "I could have been more sensitive."

Ya think?

Otto, on that 20/20, do they have new/recent interview with her, or are they just re-playing old interviews?

 

[aa9511]

Don't forget the PR team!
And don't forget the retired FBI dude with the big loud mouthed inappropriate wife


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It's no big deal here to lock up African-American males for marijuana possession for what, like 20years???

 

[Linda7NJ]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492893/Foxy-Knoxy-girl-compete-mother-men.html

Long before meeting Meredith, Amanda had begun to show a distrust of other women, which would manifest itself as she grew older in her inability to form close female friendships, outbursts of jealousy and increasingly rebellious and sexually aggressive behaviour.

Nearly all her best friends were men and, in order to capture the attention she so desperately needed, she tried to compete with them on their own terms. At Seattle's University of Washington, she would spend her free time on the football field, or join expeditions to climb the perilous peaks which rim the West Coast city.

More Interesting...at link....


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[aa9511]

The 20/20 program is so far all about Knox as a child, the bad prosecutor, and the statements from the night of Nov 5 - which were excluded from the murder trial, drugs as common as pasta ... so 20 minutes in and nothing relevant to the case. I suppose that makes sense because there is also the mistaken storyline that there is no evidence, so they can't exactly talk about relevant evidence.

bbm

Good point, Otto! I have noticed that almost none of mainstream media in US regarding this case ever talk about any evidence. I guess Edda and Curt and of course, Amanda, are their primary sources of info.

 

[aa9511]

I can not bring myself to buy her book.
I also fear going blind from excessive eye rolling and head banging.


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:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

OMG...I can just picture you doing that without ever even having seen you!!! LOL!!!

Yes, you will do a lot of that.

I read different parts of it every time I go to the bookstore, so have not actually bought it.

 

[aa9511]

Was just looking on Google News for stories about Knox verdict: Saw many (Slate Magazine, The Atlantic, a Florida news venue, CNN, CBS, NBC, etc.).

It would seem as though most of the American media still feel the same as before (no evidence, all evidence points to Guede as lone wolf, the verdict is an outrage, the Italian system insane, Knox will never be extradited, etc.)

An example:



http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/01/31/amanda-knox-guilty-verdict-outrage-darren-kavinoky

It's as if the annulment of the Hellman court and the upholding of Massei is seen as completely irrelevant, in every aspect.

I don't think I've ever seen a case where another country's judicial system is viewed as absolutely nonsensical.

Ridiculous. They just say whatever they think people want to hear. And on top of that, they don't have time to actually research the case because, you know, they have 20-gazillion "stories" they "report" on every day. But they have to say something, because you know, well this is such a publicized case! And they need these "juicy" stories to reel in viewers, so they can then fit in a couple of minutes of real news every now and then, you know, to maintain their image as a legitimate news organization.

 

[aa9511]

SBM

Sounds like they've really done their homework. They never did seem as invested in the "burn the witch" sensationalism the case got overseas.

Actually, they've done no homework.

 

[aa9511]

The bottomline for me is that there are no posters on Interweb forums or arguments that will ever be evidence in this (or any) case. I don't care how many times or how many ways someone hashes out their theories (which is really all that can be done). The evidence just isn't there for AK and RS BARD. Whether it "should be there" or not doesn't matter. Making up theories and stories around what is imagined is not evidence. It will never be evidence.

There is no evidence that proves either AK or RS were in the apt *at the time of the murder* nor in MK's room at the time. Yes there's evidence of AK in the apartment and there may be evidence of RS as well, but if they weren't there participating in a murder they aren't guilty, IMHO.

They may be horrible, unlikeable, sleazy, cold, manipulative, weird sociopaths, but if the totality of the evidence fails to place them at the scene of the crime as it was happening, or otherwise planning this crime, they are not guilty (again, IMHO).

That's odd, because I have heard that there have been many cases where they did not find any DNA evidence of the perp at the scene, yet defendant was still convicted by a jury.

Wouldn't one example be the recent Martin MacNeill case? IIRC, that case was entirely circumstantial. They couldn't ever prove that he directly killed her. But there was so much circumstantial evidence.

Case of Raven Aboroa (sp?) - case is going to re-trial b/c in last trial 11-1 voted Guilty, even though no DNA evidence was found at the scene. He wasn't proved to be at the scene. Circumstantial evidence.

This case has direct forensic evidence of both Amanda and RS at the scene of the crime, and loads of cicumstantial evidence. And I will also add that the forensic evidence is much more than they find in other cases where the verdict is still Guilty.

 

[Karmady]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492893/Foxy-Knoxy-girl-compete-mother-men.html

Long before meeting Meredith, Amanda had begun to show a distrust of other women, which would manifest itself as she grew older in her inability to form close female friendships, outbursts of jealousy and increasingly rebellious and sexually aggressive behaviour.

Nearly all her best friends were men and, in order to capture the attention she so desperately needed, she tried to compete with them on their own terms. At Seattle's University of Washington, she would spend her free time on the football field, or join expeditions to climb the perilous peaks which rim the West Coast city.

More Interesting...at link....


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That's one of the most obnoxious bits of drivel I've read lately. Maybe Ms. Churcher has a bit of bias her own self.':facepalm:

 

[CHERIE.T]

most of us don't compare Knox to Roman Polanski or anybody else. This isn't political or about favours or extradition stakes. A lot of us don't appreciate Americans going to other countries and committing crimes-makes us all look like a bunch of entitled, arrogant pigs. Most Americans believe, ' do the crime, pay the time', regardless of where they do the crime. moo

I dont like her being railroaded in Italy for a crime she did not commit. imo