Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#13

[Myvice]

I understand. It is quite different to be mentally slow than to be a sociopath/ psycho/murderer.

I am in no way saying that to excuse Rudy, no way. However, from reading about his past robberies, he seems more like mentally slow than sociopath. For example, cooking meals, making himself at home....I mean, there is a sense of, kind of, just not too bright. So for me, it is not that easy to make the leap from child-like robbery to violent rapist/murdere.

I believe that what happened with Rudy is the same thing happened to Amand and RS - prank and then accident.

I also believe that if Rudy was on the toilet when Meredith came in, he wouldn't have gone after her, he would instead have tried to run out. If, like some suggest, that the door was locked and had no key, he would have tried to get out some other way. For example, try the French doors by the balcony. If those were locked, pick up something and break a window somewhere where it would have been fairly easy for him to get away.

If we are to suppose that Meredith didn't notice him on the way in, she would not have noticed him coming out of the bathroom, either. It would have taken only secondds for him to find something and break a window and run away.

I do not think he would have thought, here is my chance to rape Meredith, or thought about raping her. He would have wanted to run away, IMO, and IMO that would not be hard to do. If she had never seen him, there was also nothing to id him for. Let's say she had seen him somewhere - I believe he would have turned around and gone out whatever way he could, even if that meant breaking a window with his body.

Jmo.

I agree. The guy that didn't file charges and came out with his accusations after RG was arrested, RG was holding up a chair and was trying to get away. He could have walked out on the balcony and quickly gotten away.

 

[Katody]

Possibly someone bringing her a cappuccino.

How unfortunate they forgot to record their "professional politeness". Or was it that they were out of money for the tapes?

 

[Katody]

How would Rudy know what kind of glass was in the balcony windows, if what you say is indeed true? There was no link provided, so first of all i am not sure about the modern glass part.

There are links provided at the start of this thread to the basics of the case. Photos and videos can be viewed. Some people are arguing this case for years here. Is it incorrect to assume they have some basic knowledge of the case and the evidence already?

Secondly, Rudy had never been in girls' flat so how would he know, and he would not be able to tell from down below.

I just don't think so, it's clearly visible even from far away.

More interesting question is why would he break a window standing on an exposed balcony with no possibility of fast escape. Waiting on a balcony for the reaction after breaking the window is not possible, he must go in immediately risking that if someone noticed and called the police he will be caught inside.

He broke Filomena's window instead because it allowed him to wait outside in the dark for any sign of alert.

 

[Myvice]

How would Rudy know what kind of glass was in the balcony windows, if what you say is indeed true? There was no link provided, so first of all i am not sure about the modern glass part. Secondly, Rudy had never been in girls' flat so how would he know, and he would not be able to tell from down below.

My front glass door was broken by a small rock that my lawn guy picked up while trimming. New glass breaks easily. They aren't constructed like a windshield or anything. That's ridiculous.

 

[Linda7NJ]

So...going with the theory he entered through the window...the first thing he does is poop? Then starts throwing stuff around the room to messy it up...then Meredith enters...?


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[Amber29]

I like it when you separate your interpretations from what really have been said. Appreciated.

What is my impression? I take it for what has been said. He said she waited for hours. The fact is they started to interrogate her shortly after they started on him, not after they finished with him as he seems to think.
It's meaningless mistake because there's no need to justify Amanda's stretching. Obviously she was tired after days of no sleep and long hours with the police. Amanda making a split, a cartwheel or even dancing naked at the police station is no substitute for the actual evidence which is sorely lacking.


I really don't think so, but please do follow with actual quotes. It doesn't offend me if I'm proven wrong.

He said she was waiting for 5hours, that was the reason for her "stretching". This is simply not true and after all these years I expect the defendants in this case to know the timelines and facts in evidence.(perhaps better than us websleuths would be nice) It's that simple really. It is not a meaningless mistake in my eyes, it's an exaggeration to make it seem that he was questioned for MANY more hours than he was. Separating my interpretations isn't necessary because he's very clear in what he says. Similar to what Aa said, denying the obvious isn't the best defense.

 

[Amber29]

There are links provided at the start of this thread to the basics of the case. Photos and videos can be viewed. Some people are arguing this case for years here. Is it incorrect to assume they have some basic knowledge of the case and the evidence already?


I just don't think so, it's clearly visible even from far away.

More interesting question is why would he break a window standing on an exposed balcony with no possibility of fast escape. Waiting on a balcony for the reaction after breaking the window is not possible, he must go in immediately risking that if someone noticed and called the police he will be caught inside.

He broke Filomena's window instead because it allowed him to wait outside in the dark for any sign of alert.

Are links not asked for all the time? If you can't provide one perhaps you should add IMO to your post(s) about the glass so people don't take it for fact.

 

[Katody]

Are links not asked for all the time? If you can't provide one perhaps you should add IMO to your post about the glass so people don't take it for fact.

I don't care that much about this particular fact.

More interesting question is why would he break a window standing on an exposed balcony with no possibility of fast escape. Waiting on a balcony for the reaction after breaking the window is not possible, he must go in immediately risking that if someone noticed and called the police he will be caught inside.

He broke Filomena's window instead because it allowed him to wait outside in the dark for any sign of alert.

 

[Amber29]

There are links provided at the start of this thread to the basics of the case. Photos and videos can be viewed. Some people are arguing this case for years here. Is it incorrect to assume they have some basic knowledge of the case and the evidence already?


I just don't think so, it's clearly visible even from far away.

More interesting question is why would he break a window standing on an exposed balcony with no possibility of fast escape. Waiting on a balcony for the reaction after breaking the window is not possible, he must go in immediately risking that if someone noticed and called the police he will be caught inside.

He broke Filomena's window instead because it allowed him to wait outside in the dark for any sign of alert.

Because he's stood on a balcony before and broke a window? If you're going to break in, you don't throw in a rock to find out if someone is home IMO. Were the cops called by the neighbor in other break ins after the murder?

 

[Myvice]

I don't care that much about this particular fact.

More interesting question is why would he break a window standing on an exposed balcony with no possibility of fast escape. Waiting on a balcony for the reaction after breaking the window is not possible, he must go in immediately risking that if someone noticed and called the police he will be caught inside.

He broke Filomena's window instead because it allowed him to wait outside in the dark for any sign of alert.

Being on the balcony would have allowed him to gently tap the glass and create very little noise.

Love how you pick n choose which facts to avoid.

 

[Katody]

It is not a meaningless mistake in my eyes, it's an exaggeration to make it seem that he was questioned for MANY more hours than he was.

You simply don't know for how many hours he was questioned. Do you?

Separating my interpretations isn't necessary because he's very clear in what he says.

I like it separate, can't help it. I'm very interested in facts and actual evidence. "Statement analysis" is boring and pointless IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_Page

So what wrong with this website?

Personally, I love it


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[otto]

They continued their relationship while in prison, even playing chess through the mail.

They don't strike me as "chess" players. That has got to be a euphamism.

 

[Amber29]

I don't care that much about this particular fact.

More interesting question is why would he break a window standing on an exposed balcony with no possibility of fast escape. Waiting on a balcony for the reaction after breaking the window is not possible, he must go in immediately risking that if someone noticed and called the police he will be caught inside.

He broke Filomena's window instead because it allowed him to wait outside in the dark for any sign of alert.

Repeating this line numerous times doesn't make it true, it is after all only IN YOUR OPINION.

 

[Amber29]

You simply don't know for how many hours he was questioned. Do you?



I like it separate, can't help it. I'm very interested in facts and actual evidence. "Statement analysis" is boring and pointless IMO

I know for a FACT that AK was not waiting for 5hours while he was questioned. It was an hour, hour and a half at the most that she waited for him to tell his load of rubbish story and be approached by police.

RS has sat through all the testimony in court, he is an Italian speaks it fluently and they covered this whole timeline in court. So for him to ignorant of the timeline is unacceptable. Which leads me to believe he had a motive behind misleading his interviewer and the audience.

 

[Katody]

Being on the balcony would have allowed him to gently tap the glass and create very little noise.

I don't think that's how breaking glass works
But let's say he "taps gently". It doesn't protect him from being noticed, the balcony is exposed. What if it happens that someone is inside or even comes home during his "gentle tapping"?

Sorry, I just don't see any advantage in it. A lot of risk and trouble for what? Supposedly easier climb?
The climb to Filomena's window is already incredibly easy and takes literally seconds.

Video of the climb.

Love how you pick n choose which facts to avoid.

Could you point them out?

 

[Katody]

Repeating this line numerous times doesn't make it true, it is after all only IN YOUR OPINION.

Well, there are some facts here The window is really broken, known burglar leaves traces typical for his MO inside.

I think my opinion that he broke-in through that window is quite well supported and unchallenged so far.

 

[Amber29]

Well, there are some facts here The window is really broken, known burglar leaves traces typical for his MO inside.

I think my opinion that he broke-in through that window is quite well supported and unchallenged so far.

The whole line is an opinion of why he chose Filomenas window. None of it is fact, in fact RG was not charged with breaking and entering in this case, it was ruled a staged break in.

 

[Myvice]

I don't think that's how breaking glass works
But let's say he "taps gently". It doesn't protect him from being noticed, the balcony is exposed. What if it happens that someone is inside or even comes home during his "gentle tapping"?

Considering there is a railing on the patio, it doesn't take much to throw a leg over the balcony, hit a rung on the window grill below and run. Walking on a balcony draws much less attention than climbing a wall to a window, IMO. Don't people walk on balconies all the time? Isn't that what they're made for?

Sorry, I just don't see any advantage in it. A lot of risk and trouble for what? Supposedly easier climb?
The climb to Filomena's window is already incredibly easy and takes literally seconds.

Maybe you don't see the advantage because you aren't a burglar? I guess climbing a wall isn't very risky.


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Video of the climb.



Could you point them out?

You told Amber her facts didn't matter to you. Read your own post.

 

[Katody]

The whole line is an opinion of why he chose Filomenas window. None of it is fact, in fact RG was not charged with breaking and entering in this case, it was ruled a staged break in.

I think it's not so subtle circular reasoning to use the decision of the joke of a court as evidence that said court was right after all


The facts are simple. Guede was a known burglar. Breaking windows was his MO. There is a broken window which is climbable ( in seconds as the TV reconstruction proves). There are numerous traces of Guede's inside.

Argument that he didn't broke in because there is an easier route in itself is weak because one route doesn't exclude others. The supposedly easier way doesn't seem so obvious on closer look. In fact there are problems with it. A weak argument that leads nowhere.

JMO