Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#13

[otto]

I think Raffaelle has flipped his gourd .... :waitasec:

I have no use for texting and social media, so I have a question for people that use those tools.

How common is it for someone to have complete copies of text messages six months after the texts were sent? Is it something that is automatically preserved and easy to access, or is it something that takes an effort to save in order to access at a later date?

 

[Myvice]

Not a floor mat - more like a mouse pad on the desk.

My interpretation is that a mat in front of a workstation would be on the floor. That's what makes this all so difficult IMO.

Also in the link you posted it says that she quit her lessons and had basically learned some words. I feel the same translation problems would be possible when one doesn't know the language conversationally. JMO

 

[otto]

I don't remember when your link was from, but obviously she did not speak Italian when she arrived, but did speak it by the time she left.

I think that anyone that has tried to wade through legal documents in their native language finds it challenging. I very much doubt that anyone can take a language class and suddenly be fluent enough to understand legal documents. It just doesn't seem realistic.

 

[Myvice]

I have no use for texting and social media, so I have a question for people that use those tools.

How common is it for someone to have complete copies of text messages six months after the texts were sent? Is it something that is automatically preserved and easy to access, or is it something that takes an effort to save in order to access at a later date?

Another case I've been following here, the missing Teleka Patrick, her twitter accts have been accessed even though they were deleted. Pretty crazy. I'm not sure about texts.

 

[quesarita]

I think that anyone that has tried to wade through legal documents in their native language finds it challenging. I very much doubt that anyone can take a language class and suddenly be fluent enough to understand legal documents. It just doesn't seem realistic.

Hence the translators she worked with, per your original quote. Since Brocchi apparently spoke English per Harmony, she could also have asked him.

 

[otto]

Hence the translators she worked with, per your original quote. Since Brocchi apparently spoke English per Harmony, she could also have asked him.

It's all good then. Presumably she was also respectful of Dr Mignini, and did not rely on Doug Preston's view of the prosecutor as a satanic loonie.

 

[Myvice]

I'm sure the rest of you know this but it's the first time I've seen it. Only 1 fingerprint of AK's found on a glass even though she lived there.

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/trial_the_showing_of_the_crime_scene_video/

 

[otto]

I'm sure the rest of you know this but it's the first time I've seen it. Only 1 fingerprint of AK's found on a glass even though she lived there.

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/trial_the_showing_of_the_crime_scene_video/

I didn't know that, but I did know that when investigators stated that there was a clean-up at the cottage, it had to have some basis in reality. Either Knox does not deposit DNA and fingerprints, or the clean-up went a little overboard in terms of wiping down objects and surfaces.

 

[quesarita]

It's all good then. Presumably she was also respectful of Dr Mignini, and did not rely on Doug Preston's view of the prosecutor as a satanic loonie.

I've only read the first few chapters of her book so far and Mignini hasn't come into it yet. She writes well.

 

[SMK]

I have no use for texting and social media, so I have a question for people that use those tools.

How common is it for someone to have complete copies of text messages six months after the texts were sent? Is it something that is automatically preserved and easy to access, or is it something that takes an effort to save in order to access at a later date?

I know on Yahoo chats you can archive your chats, but normally they're not saved - other than that, I'm not sure....Did Sollecito save them, or did the girl?

 

[SMK]

I didn't know that, but I did know that when investigators stated that there was a clean-up at the cottage, it had to have some basis in reality. Either Knox does not deposit DNA and fingerprints, or the clean-up went a little overboard in terms of wiping down objects and surfaces.

There was also no DNA of Filomena's found at all in her own room.

 

[Myvice]

A little O/T but another case I was following, Skylar Neese, ended last week with a guilty plea of 1st degree. Two girls stabbed their best friend to death because they didn't want to be friends with her anymore and they worried she would tell their secrets.

Who could possibly come to that as a possible motive for murder??

It just seems impossible to come up with a provable motive in some cases. People that do these things don't think in a predictable manner, JMO.

 

[aa9511]

I believe I will start saving all my text conversations in case someone I know happens to become a "celebrity".................

 

[Myvice]

It seems like AK made a comment regarding texts at one point stating that she either deleted her outgoing or incoming texts but didn't know how to delete the others.

I don't even use a smart phone or text so I'm a dinosaur.

 

[Myvice]

I believe I will start saving all my text conversations in case someone I know happens to become a "celebrity".................

I think too, that this gal was setting him up. I find that disgusting.

However, he obviously did say these things so it isn't much different than the cops having RGs friend try to set him up and confess. JMO

 

[SMK]

I believe I will start saving all my text conversations in case someone I know happens to become a "celebrity".................

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[otto]

I know on Yahoo chats you can archive your chats, but normally they're not saved - other than that, I'm not sure....Did Sollecito save them, or did the girl?

Kelsey Kay and her friend must have saved them because they provided them to the tabloid. I'm just curious whether they were saved in July in anticipation that they might come in handy, like for a tabloid publication, or whether, in January, when Kelsey Kay was really angry with Sollecito, she simply scrolled back and found all the texts.

 

[otto]

There was also no DNA of Filomena's found at all in her own room.

I didn't know that either. So Meredith's blood and Knox's DNA were in Filomina's bedroom, but not Filomina's DNA. How bizarre.

 

[aa9511]

Kelsey Kay and her friend must have saved them because they provided them to the tabloid. I'm just curious whether they were saved in July in anticipation that they might come in handy, like for a tabloid publication, or whether, in January, when Kelsey Kay was really angry with Sollecito, she simply scrolled back and found all the texts.

Good question. Or maybe she just needed some money at this time, and so decided to look up those texts.

 

[SMK]

I didn't know that either. So Meredith's blood and Knox's DNA were in Filomina's bedroom, but not Filomina's DNA. How bizarre.

Yes - it is said if shared housing is the explanation for the mixed trace in Filomena's bedroom, it would be presupposed that Filomena's own DNA should be found in her own bedroom and among her own things - except it wasn't. None.

(Scroll to last paragraph):

http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Mixed_DNA