Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#13

[Myvice]

Thanks much SMK.

 

[Katody]

I suppose it depends on how much sway Nencini has over this jury of professional and lay judges, and what they themselves believe about the totality of evidence. I think we can't really know.

Sollecito will be in court for the ruling, and he deserves credit for this bravery.

From what I've heard Raffaele's father said his son will be home in Puglia.

The lay juries would have to vote not guilty unanimously to overcome the judge and his assistant. Given that the judge advises and leads the panel, highly unlikely.

 

[SMK]

Knox Opts for Absence as Italian Court Nears Ruling in Murder Trial

FLORENCE, Italy — For six years, the fate of Amanda Knox has been in the hands of a succession of Italian courts, called on to determine whether on the night of Nov. 1, 2007, she brutally killed her 21-year-old roommate, Meredith Kercher, like Ms. Knox a foreign exchange student in the picturesque hilltop university town of Perugia. On Thursday, a court in Florence is expected to offer its ruling.

Ms. Knox will not be present in the courtroom. She will await the verdict in her hometown, Seattle, where she has lived ever since an appeals court reversed her murder conviction in October 2011, overturning an earlier decision. Last year, the Court of Cassation, Italy’s highest court, vacated the appellate court ruling and ordered a new trial, which began last fall, putting Ms. Knox — and her former boyfriend and co-defendant, Raffaele Sollecito — back in the limelight. [...]

.....Ms. Knox said that while they believed that she was her own best defense, her lawyers had advised her not to attend the trial.

“They said, ‘If you go to the court they’re going to be paying attention to you — they’re going to be looking at your face, they’re going to be trying to read your gestures, they’re not going to be listening, and that is a huge problem,’ ” said Ms. Knox, whose appearance in court became a fixation of the world’s media during the Perugia trials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/30/w...italian-court-ruling.html?ref=amandaknox&_r=3

 

[SMK]

From what I've heard Raffaele's father said his son will be home in Puglia.

The lay juries would have to vote not guilty unanimously to overcome the judge and his assistant. Given that the judge advises and leads the panel, highly unlikely.

Yes, but as of this morning, Dr. Sollecito announced he has asked his son to be in the court room with him for the verdict, and he has complied.

LA NAZIONE:

Meredith process, Sollecito will be in the courtroom for the ruling

http://www.lanazione.it/firenze/cro...dith-sollecito-amanda-omicidio-sentenza.shtml

 

[quesarita]

From what I've heard Raffaele's father said his son will be home in Puglia.

The lay juries would have to vote not guilty unanimously to overcome the judge and his assistant. Given that the judge advises and leads the panel, highly unlikely.

Latest news is that Sollecito and his father will be in the courtroom,
http://www.gazzettadelsud.it/news/e...ppear-in-Florence-court-for-new-sentence.html

 

[quesarita]

Hard drive was damaged. Laptop wouldn't start. They had to repair it.

IMO, a burglar would be unlikely to carry away a laptop that they had already broken, regardless of what took place later that evening, or what else they took.

 

[SMK]

Thanks much SMK.

Most welcome If they deliberate fairly quickly, we may awaken to a verdict tomorrow in the US.

 

[SMK]

Stephanie and Lyle Kercher will be in court tomorrow for the verdict reading: This piece also confirms that Dr. and Raffaelle Sollecito will be present.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Meredith-Kercher-murder-retrial-verdict.html

 

[Myvice]

My daughter was stationed at Aviano a few years ago and would Skype me to have a drink with her. I'm not much of a drinker but DH always said "It's 5 o'clock somewhere". Very strange...but we'll never forget it LOL.

 

[SMK]

My daughter was stationed at Aviano a few years ago and would Skype me to have a drink with her. I'm not much of a drinker but DH always said "It's 5 o'clock somewhere". Very strange...but we'll never forget it LOL.

:laugh:

 

[Katody]

Ryan Ferguson supports Amanda:

“I wanted to reach out to her because I’ve looked at the facts in her case, and I believe in her innocence 100 percent,’’ Ferguson told TODAY.com. “She was very supportive and helpful when I got out, and I want to be able to give back. I believe she’s nervous and a little scared, but overwhelmingly, I would say she has been positive. The facts are in her favor.”

http://www.today.com/news/ryan-ferguson-amanda-knox-scared-new-verdict-looms-2D12008165

“The only thing that’s scary, and this is a quote from me and not her, is the political aspect of it,’’ Ferguson told TODAY.com. “What I’ve seen in the justice system in the situation I was in is that it’s not always about facts and circumstances; it’s about politics.”

 

[Katody]

New book out yesterday which I just bought on Kindle.

Amazon.com: The Forgotten Killer: Rudy Guede and the Murder of Meredith Kercher eBook: Douglas Preston, John Douglas, Mark Olshaker, Steve Moore, Judge Michael Heavey, Jim Lovering, Thomas Lee Wright: Kindle Store

It's good to know professionals of John Douglas's caliber recognize Amanda's innocence and the terrible miscarriage of justice that happened.

 

[Amber29]

Most welcome If they deliberate fairly quickly, we may awaken to a verdict tomorrow in the US.

I can't believe this day is finally here and my daughter has a dentist appointment tomorrow! Thank goodness for smart phones!

I honestly feel as if it could go either way, this case is greatly divided on the Internet. No reason to believe that jurors won't be divided as well.

 

[SMK]

I can't believe this day is finally here and my daughter has a dentist appointment tomorrow! Thank goodness for smart phones!

I honestly feel as if it could go either way, this case is greatly divided on the Internet. No reason to believe that jurors won't be divided as well.

Ha, true. Yes, I am getting the same feeling.

 

[aa9511]

Amanda confides in Ryan Ferguson:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/amanda-knox-ryan-ferguson_n_4682801.html


also,



http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/ryan-ferguson-amanda-knox-a-little-scared-as-new-verdict-looms

This makes me sad.

 

[aa9511]

New book out yesterday which I just bought on Kindle.

Amazon.com: The Forgotten Killer: Rudy Guede and the Murder of Meredith Kercher eBook: Douglas Preston, John Douglas, Mark Olshaker, Steve Moore, Judge Michael Heavey, Jim Lovering, Thomas Lee Wright: Kindle Store

Of course, all of those people have to make money too.

 

[aa9511]

Excerpts from The Forgotten Killer

While more than a dozen books have been written about the death of Meredith Kercher, nearly all of them have paid scant attention to the certain perpetrator whose DNA was found in, on, and around the victim in multiple locations at the crime scene. No viable DNA evidence was ever detected at the crime scene indicating the presence of anyone else. The absolute impossibility of selectively removing DNA of two out of three murderers from a bloody crime scene has not stopped a cottage industry of obsessed conspiracy theorists from ignoring the sole perpetrator in this horrific tragedy.

Preston, Douglas; Douglas, John; Olshaker, Mark; Moore, Steve; Heavey, Judge Michael; Lovering, Jim; Wright, Thomas Lee (2014-01-27). The Forgotten Killer: Rudy Guede and the Murder of Meredith Kercher (Kindle Locations 42-46). . Kindle Edition.

Steve Moore on the investigation:

Because of all this, I feel that I say authoritatively that what passed for an investigation, interrogation, and forensics in Perugia was nothing more than going through the motions to make people believe that the police, forensic investigators, and prosecutors knew what they were doing.

The conclusions and prosecutions in the Kercher murder investigation were based solely on (flawed) intuition, profound ignorance about the science of investigation, social and religious bias, superstition, corruption, and self-preservation.

As I began to delve into the case, I learned to my dismay that the investigation was botched at a level I have rarely seen outside of totalitarian or Third World countries. The forensics, “interrogation,” and conclusions of the detectives were at best completely and nightmarishly wrong, and at worst, intentionally corrupted. As a result, several innocent people had been caught up in the investigation like dolphins in a tuna net.

Preston, Douglas; Douglas, John; Olshaker, Mark; Moore, Steve; Heavey, Judge Michael; Lovering, Jim; Wright, Thomas Lee (2014-01-27). The Forgotten Killer: Rudy Guede and the Murder of Meredith Kercher (Kindle Locations 589-592). . Kindle Edition.

Junk Profiling

For reasons steeped in flawed intuition, differing cultural norms, and superstition, detectives in Perugia almost immediately focused on Amanda Knox as the target of their investigation. It was this “junk profiling” that caused them to believe that because she didn’t weep for the victim in public, she didn’t weep in private. This lack of public display of grief caused them to falsely believe she killed her friend. The fact that different cultures, and even different people within those cultures, deal with shock and grief in different ways apparently did not occur to them.

Preston, Douglas; Douglas, John; Olshaker, Mark; Moore, Steve; Heavey, Judge Michael; Lovering, Jim; Wright, Thomas Lee (2014-01-27). The Forgotten Killer: Rudy Guede and the Murder of Meredith Kercher (Kindle Locations 623-624). . Kindle Edition.

bbm

Not if the stabbings were not equally distributed amongst the 3 individuals. I don't know why that is to hard for people to believe. It would explain a lot of things.

In my theory, the accidental stab wound happens by either Amanda or Raffaele during the prank, with Rudy holding Meredith. Note that neither Amanda or Raffaele would have to touch her in that scenario. Rudy drops her, he does the stabbing overkill. I am just thinking that Amanda and RS could have been wearing gloves as part of the prank - because their hands are white, it would be easier to distinguish who they were if they were otherwise disguised with masks and gloves.

 

[Katody]

Amanda Knox Confides in Ryan Ferguson, Who Was Wrongly Convicted of Murder:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/01/amanda-knox-confides-in-ryan-ferguson-who-was-wrongly-convicted-of-murder/

Ferguson, 29, who was released from prison last year after his conviction was overturned by a Missouri state appeals court panel, told ABCNews.com in an email today that he has spoken with Knox this week.

“She seems to be doing incredibly well considering the circumstances,” Ferguson said. “The Italian courts continue to play games with her life which is sadly no different than what happens here on a daily basis.”

“Having said that, she is very positive and we all believe that justice will prevail and the facts that have proven her innocence will set her free,” he said.

The photo of Ryan's prison possessions in the article is interesting, with Amanda's book among them:

https://twitter.com/lifeafterten/status/424685802874867713/photo/1


CNN Video interview with Ryan:

http://newday.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/28/wrongly-convicted-ryan-ferguson-takes-up-amanda-knoxs-case/

 

[aa9511]

Put yourself in Amanda's position. If you were innocent and had already spent 4 years of your life in an Italian prison for a wrongful conviction, would you trust the Italian court to get it right? Would you therefore risk further imprisonment by going back for the trial knowing that you probably would not be extridited by staying in the US? In that case, I would do exactly what AK is doing and stay home.

I don't think it has any difference whether innocent or guilty - I believe in both scenarios, a person in Amanda's position would not go to Italy. I mean, it's just common sense. No one wants to go to prison, whether innocent or guilty.

 

[aa9511]

As Italy is 6 hours ahead of us, and it will begin at 9 am there, it will be 3 am EST/New York City time. The defense will speak for an hour, then deliberations begin.

Oh finally.....:facepalm:.