Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#7

[Chris_Halkides]

If Amanda called to report the break in why did her Mom say that nothing had happened at the house yet?

Edda did not exactly say that.

 

[aa9511]

Not true. Amanda discovered the front door open which was defective, the blood spots, and the mess Guede left in the toilet but not the broken window till she returned.

Yes, even though Raffaelo claimed that was the first thing he saw when he entered the house and was like, Whoa, something is not right.

But somehow Amanda didn't notice it when she was supposedly in the house during her shower.

Even though it's the first thing Raffaelo saw.

But Amanda didn't notice it the entire time she claimed to be in the house taking a shower, and only noticed it after she got back.

But Raffaelo saw it first thing.

????????????????????????

 

[Myvice]

Logical according to some people but not to everyone. It wasn't her toilet or bathroom and this was a share accommodation house. Why not let Filomena or Laura deal with it since the 5 euro fine for not cleaning was their idea. It was their problem not hers.

I didn't know about the 5 euro fine. Could you show me where you got that, please? I guess there really was a lot of animosity due to cleaning or lack thereof.

 

[aa9511]

From above linked article:

Absolutely; I can agree with this. To my thinking, neither the sex game gone wrong, nor the unflushed toilet does justice to what MIGHT be (not is, but might be) a narrative of prescient culpability on the part of the defendants.

ITA.

I also find it interesting how, on everything that goes against Amanda, the prosecutors are always wrong.

Yet, when the supporters of her innocence find something that the prosecutor says which helps them (in mainstream opinion), they grab onto every word coming out of the prosecutor's mouth.

So which is it?

 

[MichaelSmith]

Yes, even though Raffaelo claimed that was the first thing he saw when he entered the house and was like, Whoa, something is not right.

But somehow Amanda didn't notice it when she was supposedly in the house during her shower.

Even though it's the first thing Raffaelo saw.

But Amanda didn't notice it the entire time she claimed to be in the house taking a shower, and only noticed it after she got back.

But Raffaelo saw it first thing.

????????????????????????

Nope. He never claimed that. Raffaele never saw it. Amanda had told him about it but he looked in her bathroom and didn't see it.

ETA: Amanda first noticed the crap after her shower.

 

[otto]

All hell had broken loose in those 8 days and they were trying to reconstruct the sequence of events.

Still, with everything that had occurred over the previous eight days, the one question that was playing on Edda's mind was: why did Knox phone her before anything had happened.

 

[aa9511]

Well stated. thanks for laying that all out in so concise a way.
(*On a psychological note, anyone who has had experience with narcissistic -type family members will find this "revision of history" (whether the history took place years, months, or 10 minutes ago) maddeningly familiar. And the answer is always the same: "I don't remember saying that. I don't remember doing that.")

SMK, I have no doubt that if Amanda didn't have so many (innocent) witnesses during the events leading up to the discovery at the cottage, she would have either denied or gone the "I don't remember" route with everything.

Let's say it was one roomate who was there, let's say Filomena. And no other witnesses when the body was discovered. Filomena's word vs. Amanda's. That's all. I don't doubt for one second, even one second, that Amanda would be either claiming Filomena misunderstoody/is lying about everything, or just saying "no I don't remember that because I was in shock."

Luckily there were so many witnesses that she couldn't go that route.

 

[Myvice]

Edda did not exactly say that.

Here is the link that it came from.

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index..._testify_those_devils_that_lurk_in_the_detai/

It is from the transcript.

Go down to number three on the page.

 

[otto]

Taking this from the previous thread:



Let me explain it in terms you might more readily understand. Human DNA is no different from any other DNA. For example, an influenza virus contains DNA. If someone sneezes into their hand, and at some later points grabs something like a doorknob, virus can be transferred to the doorknob. suppose you then come along and use that doorknob. Now virus potentially is transferred to your hand. Suppose now that you use this hand to eat with, or wipe you nose (or whatever). Now that virus can gain entry to your body and infect it. This is how most flu infections happen and why you are supposed to wash your hands.

Transferring human DNA is exactly like that.

You do not need to know the person the original DNA came from, or even met them, all you need is a route of transmission, and in this case there is a very clear and obvious route.

If DNA was transferred so easily, it would be 100% unreliable in court. That is, DNA in any location could easily be attributed to a multitude of random transfers similar to six degrees of separation.

 

[sherlockh]

Not true. The break-in was discovered on the second trip back to the cottage after noon.

Both Hayward and Purton testified that Knox was telling them in the police station that she saw the broken window before going back to Sollecito's apartment.
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[aa9511]

Duplicate post/broken quote

 

[otto]

Logical according to some people but not to everyone. It wasn't her toilet or bathroom and this was a share accommodation house. Why not let Filomena or Laura deal with it since the 5 euro fine for not cleaning was their idea. It was their problem not hers.

Is the suggestion that Knox was deliberately inconsiderate to make some sort of point?

 

[MichaelSmith]

Still, with everything that had occurred over the previous eight days, the one question that was playing on Edda's mind was: why did Knox phone her before anything had happened.

She called her mother after a lot had happened. She'd discovered her house had been broken into, small blood stains in the bathroom, her friend missing with phones switched off and a locked bedroom door.

That seems more than enough to justify a 20 year old calling her mother.

 

[aa9511]

Thanks, but I wasn't responding to one of your posts.
I do disagree with your "theory" but I appreciate that you do realize it is just a "gut feeling" that you have. I can't argue with that.

I'm posting this again to see if the broken quote gets fixed this time.

In that case, can I say a have a general "gut feeling" about the whole case? I have a gut feeling, strongly in my gut, that Amanda and RS are involved in the murder and subsequent cover-up of the murder.

THank you for respecting, since it is my gut feeling.

 

[sherlockh]

If DNA was transferred so easily, it would be 100% unreliable in court. That is, DNA in any location could easily be attributed to a multitude of random transfers similar to six degrees of separation.

Lol..I was just thinking of that. Fabulous theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

 

[SMK]

Edda did not exactly say that.

From transcript:
Edda: Okay, you called me first to tell me about some things that had shocked you. But this happened before anything really happened in the house.

 

[Myvice]

She called her mother after a lot had happened. She'd discovered her house had been broken into, small blood stains in the bathroom, her friend missing with phones switched off and a locked bedroom door.

That seems more than enough to justify a 20 year old calling her mother.

So why didn't she tell her Mom about those things then? her mother said nothing had happened at the house yet.

 

[whoanellie]

I'm posting this again to see if the broken quote gets fixed this time.

In that case, can I say a have a general "gut feeling" about the whole case? I have a gut feeling, strongly in my gut, that Amanda and RS are involved in the murder and subsequent cover-up of the murder.

THank you for respecting, since it is my gut feeling.

You are entitled to whatever "gut feeling" you chose to have. I can't argue with anyone's "gut feeling". In my opinion, however, no one should be convicted of a crime based on someone's "gut feeling". I believe that the poster I was originally responding to appreciates that.

 

[aa9511]

If Amanda called to report the break in why did her Mom say that nothing had happened at the house yet?

Good point.

 

[MichaelSmith]

So why didn't she tell her Mom about those things then? her mother said nothing had happened at the house yet.

But she did.

From SMK's post quoting transcript.

Edda: Okay, you called me first to tell me about some things that had shocked you. But this happened before anything really happened in the house.

In the 2nd part which Comodi exploited.... Edda is referring to the door being broken down and body discovered.

All I see is mum/daughter trying to reconstruct what had happened and figure things out.