Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

[otto]

I am impressed with Marseca's closing. He brought alot up that needed to be brought up. I have always felt the books/money/press were all premature. The rightful thing to do would've been to wait until there was a definate ruling. Especially when you are going to embellish the story and stray from the facts in evidence.

He is after all representing the civil side.

He mentioned to the court a lot that needed reminding of. I think what the defendants have been up to is relevant. When it includes a pr firm and bad mouthing the Italian justice system, all while you are still part of it.

Spouting off that there is no evidence and such, I liked his line about comments made without seeing all the documents.

Anyways just a few of my thoughts.

Yes! Hiring a PR firm, badmouthing the Italian justice system, publishing self-serving novels about the murder, soliciting funds for an unspecified project in the victim's name ... it's all true. This is not what innocent people. Patrick Lumumba is innocent, yet he was in the exact same position as Knox when this started. He did not need a PR firm, or to author a novel, solicit funds, badmouth Italy, lie, or change his story to be excluded from the trials. All he had to do was tell the truth.

 

[TorisMom003]

It's odd that I can find nothing on Amanda's website about HER collecting money for HER to determine what to do with in Meredith's name. There is however a link to the Meredith Kercher Fund that takes you to the site that apparently Meredith's family has set up. There is also a link to the Raffaele Sollecito Fund that takes you to his site. Any donations made on the other two sites do NOT go to Amanda. Sounds like once again something that Amanda has done is being taken and turned around to be something evil.

 

[Amber29]

It's odd that I can find nothing on Amanda's website about HER collecting money for HER to determine what to do with in Meredith's name. There is however a link to the Meredith Kercher Fund that takes you to the site that apparently Meredith's family has set up. There is also a link to the Raffaele Sollecito Fund that takes you to his site. Any donations made on the other two sites do NOT go to Amanda. Sounds like once again something that Amanda has done is being taken and turned around to be something evil.

Either way at this point it's not something the Kerchers want. They consider her culpable, John Kercher has bluntly said what he thinks.

Being that she is still in the trial process for her murder, it's something she should've thought about.

I do not think she's evil for it, but respect the victims family.

It's much IMO like Jodi Arias wearing the "survivor" shirt after being convicted.
It's an insult to the victims family.

 

[TorisMom003]

Either way at this point it's not something the Kerchers want. They consider her culpable, John Kercher has bluntly said what he thinks.

Being that she is still in the trial process for her murder, it's something she should've thought about.

I do not think she's evil for it, but respect the victims family.

It's much IMO like Jodi Arias wearing the "survivor" shirt after being convicted.
It's an insult to the victims family.

It's a lie that was told in court to try and paint Amanda as something evil and sinister. Since Amanda was tried for the death of Meredith, she of course has a section on her site about Meredith. Unfortunately for the Kercher's Amanda will always have a tie to Meredith. If they wish to blame someone for this then they need to look to those that have repeatedly accused Amanda wrongfully. It is a sweet gesture on Amanda's part to have those that visit her website the option of going to Meredith's site to donate money to her family.

As far as the bolded part, this is NOTHING like the Jodi Arias case. Jodi admitted to killing Travis. There was ample evidence that she in fact did it. She was found guilty of it by a jury of her peers and that conviction has not been overturned on appeal. Amanda has always maintained her innocence. Jodi was going to profit from the "Survivor" shirt, Amanda is not.

MOO

 

[Cappuccino]

It's odd that I can find nothing on Amanda's website about HER collecting money for HER to determine what to do with in Meredith's name. There is however a link to the Meredith Kercher Fund that takes you to the site that apparently Meredith's family has set up. There is also a link to the Raffaele Sollecito Fund that takes you to his site. Any donations made on the other two sites do NOT go to Amanda. Sounds like once again something that Amanda has done is being taken and turned around to be something evil.

So the statement Maresca made to the court was highly misleading then? One might even call it a lie.

 

[TorisMom003]

So the statement Maresca made to the court was highly misleading then? One might even call it a lie.

Yes. I looked on Amanda's website, the entire thing, and there is no donation being asked for a special yet undetermined thing for Meredith. There is simply a link to the Meredith Kercher Fund that is NOT set up by Amanda.

 

[SMK]

Well, Maresca definitely asserted it, so presumably, there must be some source or reference whereof he speaks in open court:

Amanda Knox condemned for collecting donations in memory of Meredith Kercher as Italian prosecutor demands court convict her of the student's murder

Knox is soliciting donations on her website for her defense as well as a separate, as yet-unspecified project in Miss Kercher's memory

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mands-court-convict-murder.html#ixzz2nffeRaMy

 

[TorisMom003]

Well, Maresca definitely asserted it, so presumably, there must be some source or reference whereof he speaks in open court:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mands-court-convict-murder.html#ixzz2nffeRaMy

He is wrong. But don't take my word for it, check out Amanda's site and see what she has on it. There is nothing there about requesting funds for any type of memorial or whatever for Meredith.

http://www.amandaknox.com/

The link to the Meredith Kercher Fund can be found on the Meredith Kercher Murder page at the bottom.

Clicking on the link to the Meredith Kercher Fund will take you to this:

http://themeredithkercherfund.com/index.html

 

[Amber29]

So the statement Maresca made to the court was highly misleading then? One might even call it a lie.

How about we get the actual text first and not what the media reports before we call him a liar.

 

[TorisMom003]

How about we get the actual text first and not what the media reports before we call him a liar.

That stopped no one in determining that Amanda was wrong in doing what was reported, even though it is now proven to be incorrect. Amanda is not requesting funds for a memorial of her choosing on her site.

It is very clear that whenever something that is against Amanda is reported it is believed without proof by some. When that is proven to be false then we should sit back and wait before we say that it appears to be a lie told in court against Amanda.

 

[SMK]

He is wrong. But don't take my word for it, check out Amanda's site and see what she has on it. There is nothing there about requesting funds for any type of memorial or whatever for Meredith.

http://www.amandaknox.com/

The link to the Meredith Kercher Fund can be found on the Meredith Kercher Murder page at the bottom.

Clicking on the link to the Meredith Kercher Fund will take you to this:

http://themeredithkercherfund.com/index.html

Well, if Maresca is in any way mistaken , I am certain Knox's attorneys will be sure to clear this up in tomorrow's summation. They must certainly realize Maresca's words are now global headlines.

 

[Cappuccino]

He is wrong. But don't take my word for it, check out Amanda's site and see what she has on it. There is nothing there about requesting funds for any type of memorial or whatever for Meredith.

http://www.amandaknox.com/

The link to the Meredith Kercher Fund can be found on the Meredith Kercher Murder page at the bottom.

Clicking on the link to the Meredith Kercher Fund will take you to this:

http://themeredithkercherfund.com/index.html

Interesting, thank you. I see from her blog that she's appealing the slander conviction to ECHR, good for her.

 

[Cappuccino]

How about we get the actual text first and not what the media reports before we call him a liar.

I didn't see any of the guilters on this thread waiting to see what was really on Amanda's website before you called her all sorts of things - nasty, no respect for the family, this is now a business for her etc.

And I see Maresca is pushing for a 25 million euro payout for his clients, (out of which he will get paid). If Amanda and Raffaele are acquitted, goodbye to their payout. Why is someone with such obvious motive for bias even allowed to speak to the court at this stage?

 

[SMK]

I didn't see any of the guilters on this thread waiting to see what was really on Amanda's website before you called her all sorts of things - nasty, no respect for the family, this is now a business for her etc.

And I see Maresca is pushing for a 25 million euro payout for his clients, (out of which he will get paid). If Amanda and Raffaele are acquitted, goodbye to their payout. Why is someone with such obvious motive for bias even allowed to speak to the court at this stage?

I would agree, this shouldn't be about mega-awards, but about truth and justice. I suppose this is how civil attorneys operate, but....I know what you mean.

 

[SMK]

I didn't see any of the guilters on this thread waiting to see what was really on Amanda's website before you called her all sorts of things - nasty, no respect for the family, this is now a business for her etc.

And I see Maresca is pushing for a 25 million euro payout for his clients, (out of which he will get paid). If Amanda and Raffaele are acquitted, goodbye to their payout. Why is someone with such obvious motive for bias even allowed to speak to the court at this stage?

I did in fact check her website, and I had questioned openly if Maresca ought to have been bringing these things up in the first place, in my post of 2 hours ago. But then, I am not a "guilter" or the opposite; simply interested in the truth, whichever way it lands. I take no sides. Let's see what the defense argues tomorrow. Should be a long and interesting day.

 

[TorisMom003]

I look at it this way, if it was my child, loved one, family member or close friend that was being presented this way in a court of law by a lawyer that knows not to lie would I sit by quietly while others deem that lawyers words as truthful without putting the correct information out there? Would I take the words of a lawyer for gospel and truth without checking it out myself? This business of taking everything that is said in court as to being the truth is not how I personally operate. Especially when it is very easy to check for oneself to see the truth. Enough has been said and done to Amanda and RS that has been shown to be questionable that I refuse to just take the word of someone who has something to gain by showing them to be monsters. It takes very little time to check things out, to see if the truth is being told. And when one sees that the truth is NOT being told then I feel that one should speak up and set the record straight.

MOO

 

[Amber29]

I didn't see any of the guilters on this thread waiting to see what was really on Amanda's website before you called her all sorts of things - nasty, no respect for the family, this is now a business for her etc.

And I see Maresca is pushing for a 25 million euro payout for his clients, (out of which he will get paid). If Amanda and Raffaele are acquitted, goodbye to their payout. Why is someone with such obvious motive for bias even allowed to speak to the court at this stage?

Personally I do not care what is on her site and feel no need to defend her. I never asserted to her collecting funds for something undisclosed.

I simply think her linking to the Meredith kercher fund or whatever she's doing is distasteful. Good gesture that she may have intended, like so many other things Amanda has done it was premature.

She is being tried for their daughters murder.

Of course Maresca is biased. He is a civil attorney in this trial not a prosecutor.

 

[SMK]

I look at it this way, if it was my child, loved one, family member or close friend that was being presented this way in a court of law by a lawyer that knows not to lie would I sit by quietly while others deem that lawyers words as truthful without putting the correct information out there? Would I take the words of a lawyer for gospel and truth without checking it out myself? This business of taking everything that is said in court as to being the truth is not how I personally operate. Especially when it is very easy to check for oneself to see the truth. Enough has been said and done to Amanda and RS that has been shown to be questionable that I refuse to just take the word of someone who has something to gain by showing them to be monsters. It takes very little time to check things out, to see if the truth is being told. And when one sees that the truth is NOT being told then I feel that one should speak up and set the record straight.

MOO

I understand. And things said in court ought to be true, but too often are not. (especially in the U.S.) I took Maresca at his word, but if he is mistaken it will surely be countered with reference. The other side gets their full day tomorrow, so let's see what they have to say.

 

[otto]

It's odd that I can find nothing on Amanda's website about HER collecting money for HER to determine what to do with in Meredith's name. There is however a link to the Meredith Kercher Fund that takes you to the site that apparently Meredith's family has set up. There is also a link to the Raffaele Sollecito Fund that takes you to his site. Any donations made on the other two sites do NOT go to Amanda. Sounds like once again something that Amanda has done is being taken and turned around to be something evil.

Really? Is Knox a poor little victim ... again? Is that really what is going on? Is this lawyer also a liar?

Why does Knox link her website to Meredith's family? They have asked her to stay away from them and to stay away from the cemetery where Meredith is buried. They want nothing to do with her.

Why is Knox unable to respect the murder victim and her family?

 

[SMK]

Good gesture that she may have intended, like so many other things Amanda has done it was premature.

She is being tried for their daughters murder.

Of course Maresca is biased. He is a civil attorney in this trial not a prosecutor.

Yes, it would have been best all around to not have anything of the kind on her site- if it was misinterpreted, this might be why.
And yes, civil attorneys are known to be very "out there", over the top, as they do focus on monetary awards and such.