Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

[SMK]

Now this is getting ugly.

Please someone needs to provide a link to exactly what Maresca said in court.

We are going by a media report.

I despise being referred to as a "guilter" I always feel the need to defend myself from that term. It is a nasty term used to describe people who believe in guilt on sites we won't mention. I never see anyone refer to people who think she is innocent as "groupies"here like is done from those sites as well.

I do not hate amanda Knox as I have said many times, I simply view the evidence from the otherside.

BBM - I agree with all - and people should understand and know that it is indeed possible to be accepting of some/most/all of the guilt evidence without being "out to get Amanda" or "on a witch hunt" or "filled with hate". (I more or less feel sorry for her whether I view her as innocent or guilty.)

 

[TorisMom003]

Could you please describe the reason why the lawyer for Meredith Kercher is a liar and provide a link.

Requesting a link for something that has been provided over and over is tiresome. Perhaps moving onto something else would be better for the flow of conversation. If one has read, and responded to, the quotes where the link is provided then one should not need the link to be posted yet again especially when one posted the original quote to begin with.

 

[aa9511]

I didn't see any of the guilters on this thread waiting to see what was really on Amanda's website before you called her all sorts of things - nasty, no respect for the family, this is now a business for her etc.

And I see Maresca is pushing for a 25 million euro payout for his clients, (out of which he will get paid). If Amanda and Raffaele are acquitted, goodbye to their payout. Why is someone with such obvious motive for bias even allowed to speak to the court at this stage?

It is a business, based on the book and the website. They are both collecting money for her, no? Is that not some sort of business? She provided a good, in one case her book, for which she received money. She is providing a service, her website, for which she gets money in the form of donations.

That is business, regardless of whether there was something for a Meredth project or not. She still has the website as a whole.

And the website itself is not respectful to the family, as they would just as well her just shu* up and go away. But it is her right. We can judge the decision, without taking that right away from her. That is our right.

 

[Katody]

But you can't deny, her linking to the fund opened up scrutiny from Maresca? If I were Amanda, I think I would have made one post remembering her, ( a picture and something brief, such as "In memory of Meredith Kercher") and then just left the rest to silence.

What do you think she did? Have you seen her blog?

Whether Amanda is guilty or innocent, the Kerchers are convinced at this point that she killed their daughter. Even if they are in error, they simply can't be objective, and it is just too explosive and painful an area for Amanda to be treading on now - even with the best of intentions. :moo:

I think the Kerchers should be the last thing to care about for her at this moment.
I also think Kerchers' lawyer attacks and emotional appeals will backfire because they're are oozing with disingenuous when paired with his demands for millions.
The appeal court judges panel is more educated and experienced than the first level. They've seen this before and they will not be easily bamboozled by such tactics.

 

[otto]

Yes, let's make more assumptions about Amanda and her character. After all it isn't as if she has had anything serious claimed about her that she has to constantly defend, like say murdering someone.

The point is that this was a claim made in court, a claim that was looked into and proven false. One can believe it if they wish or not. One can look for evidence themselves or not. I simply looked and saw that it was false.

What was proven false?

There is nothing false about the statements presented by the lawyer for Meredith Kercher today.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nda-Knoxs-convicted-murder.html#ixzz2nffeRaMy

 

[otto]

Requesting a link for something that has been provided over and over is tiresome. Perhaps moving onto something else would be better for the flow of conversation. If one has read, and responded to, the quotes where the link is provided then one should not need the link to be posted yet again especially when one posted the original quote to begin with.

No link has been provided to prove that the lawyer for Meredith Kercher is a liar. It is simply a wild, unsubstantiated slander against the victim's lawyer.

 

[TorisMom003]

No link has been provided to prove that the lawyer for Meredith Kercher is a liar. It is simply a wild, unsubstantiated slander against the victim's lawyer.

So then the claims that Amanda is a horrible person who has made a business out of collecting donations in Meredith's name is what? And before a response is made please recollect posts made in this thread in the last few pages about this specific issue.

 

[Amber29]

Oh, so which is it then? You don't seem to believe Maresca said it, and otto seems to think he did say it and Amanda, sneaky witch that she is, quickly deleted it.

If he said it, he's a liar. If he didn't say it, the person who reported his words is a liar, (or maybe just very bad at Italian).

How about Otto is linking what the media is claiming. Who I think may have gotten it wrong.

I'm calling no one a liar.

 

[Cappuccino]

How about Otto is linking what the media is claiming. Who I think may have gotten it wrong.

I'm calling no one a liar.

I know you aren't. The media may have it wrong, that happens. If they have it right, them I'm calling Maresca a liar.

 

[aa9511]

If this lawyer claimed Knox is raising money on her website for some unspecified project in Meredith's name, then yes he is a liar.

As for including a link, (one among many), to the Kercher's website, I bet if she hadn't included that link she'd be accused of something for that too.

bbm

I don't think she would have been accused of anything. She already has the "In Meredith's Memory" little passage where she talks about how she knew Meredith and how she remembers Meredith. Yes, if she didn't have little paragraph, I do feel that you're right that people would have accused her of not caring, as in she didn't even mention Meredith as a real person.

But the link is too much. Because the link connects people to the Kerchers' website, meaning it does in a way literally connect Amanda and the Kerchers', and I think that's the last thing in the world they want, IMO.

I'm sure she'll probably take it down soon after she realizes her mistake.

 

[Katody]

How about Otto is linking what the media is claiming. Who I think may have gotten it wrong.

I'm calling no one a liar.

Going by the media reports, from the links Otto provided I arrive at an opinion that he lied.

 

[TorisMom003]

How about Otto is linking what the media is claiming. Who I think may have gotten it wrong.

I'm calling no one a liar.

And that media claim was taken as gospel, yet again, and used to make all kinds of nasty comments about Amanda. Now that the claim is being questioned and a link to Amanda's website has been provided to show the claim was not factual, that a link was there to the Meredith Kercher Fund only, it is being questioned.

This is why "witch hunt" is sometimes used in Amanda's case. Say something negative about Amanda and several jump on board. Prove that negative is not true and it is deemed wrong information.

MOO

 

[aa9511]

whoa, this thread is moving fast right now.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Where is the evidence of this??

La Nazione ‏@qn_lanazione 1m
Process Meredith, attorney Fabiani (Kercher): "Amanda Knox have had extreme sexual experiences"


And here is Maresca blatantly lying:

La Nazione ‏@qn_lanazione 31s
Process Meredith, lawyer Maresca: "Amanda Knox said to her mother 'I was there'

:facepalm:

 

[otto]

I know you aren't. The media may have it wrong, that happens. If they have it right, them I'm calling Maresca a liar.

There are people here that claim to be fluent in Italian. Perhaps someone would like to demonstrate why the words attributed to the lawyer for the victim are incorrect. The footage of his last couple of minutes in court are here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nda-Knoxs-convicted-murder.html#ixzz2nffeRaMy

 

[aa9511]

If the lawyer stands up in a court of law and states a lie that is easily proven to be a lie, then yes that lawyer is a liar. There is NOTHING on Amanda's website where she is requesting donations for any kind of memorial for Meredith of her choosing. That is what he stated in court, on the record. There is simply a link that takes one to the Meredith Kercher Fund that is controlled by the Kerchers.

MOO

No, we do not know yet if he lied or not, seeing as how Amanda could have easily gotten word of all of this and TAKEN DOWN THE PORTION FROM HER WEBSITE.

So see, now the other side is jumping to conclusions, too.

So isn't it better that we all wait until we might get some more facts on this?

Maybe the defense will clear it all up. Maybe they won't.

But right now we don't know whether it is a fact that there was such a thing on her website or not. Just because we don't, at this moment, see it now when we go to her site, DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS NEVER THERE.

We just don't know at this point. MOO

 

[aa9511]

I think we need proof that Knox, at no time, ever placed a statement anywhere on her website where she solicited funds in the name of Meredith. If there is no proof, then why would a victim friendly website want to smear the reputation of the victim by labelling her lawyer a liar?

That is, if the voice for the victim is to be labelled a liar (along with everyone else in the justice system in Italy) I think there needs a link.

That is an excellent way of putting it.

 

[Katody]

No, we do not know yet if he lied or not, seeing as how Amanda could have easily gotten word of all of this and TAKEN DOWN THE PORTION FROM HER WEBSITE.

I think that would be as insane as the TV station faking a climb to Filomena's window with special effects, as had been claimed here :facepalm:

JMO


BTW The link to Kercher's website is still there as it was before, so no, it seems there is no truth whatsoever in the above.

 

[SMK]

What do you think she did? Have you seen her blog?



I think the Kerchers should be the last thing to care about for her at this moment.
I also think Kerchers' lawyer attacks and emotional appeals will backfire because they're are oozing with disingenuous when paired with his demands for millions.
The appeal court judges panel is more educated and experienced than the first level. They've seen this before and they will not be easily bamboozled by such tactics.

Just for the record:

I had posted many hours ago, asking

if Maresca's tactics might not backfire, making the lay judges more open to the defense. :tantrum:

 

[otto]

Where is the evidence of this??

La Nazione ‏@qn_lanazione 1m
Process Meredith, attorney Fabiani (Kercher): "Amanda Knox have had extreme sexual experiences"


And here is Maresca blatantly lying:

La Nazione ‏@qn_lanazione 31s
Process Meredith, lawyer Maresca: "Amanda Knox said to her mother 'I was there'

:facepalm:

Knox did say that she was there and we know from Knox's own book that she discussed her eagerness to have hook ups. Some people view that as "extreme sexual experiences"

"His name was Cristiano and they bumped into each other on a train in Florence.

“We shared a joint, and high and giggly, we went to his hotel room.“I’d just turned 20. This was my first one-night stand,” she wrote"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...oaded-sex-pot-article-1.1330334#ixzz2ngFoclRJ

"Knox describes meeting a man named Cristiano on a train from Milan to Florence. She makes her innocence and inexperience clear:

"I wondered if Cristiano thought I was cute — the word I used to describe myself back then. The leap to beautiful or sexy was too huge for me to make. In my mind, if that ever happened, it would only be after I'd grown into a sexually confident woman."

But she quickly had second thoughts:

"We were making out, fooling around like crazy, when, an hour later, I realized, I don't even know this guy. I jumped up, kissed him once more, and said good-bye."

She says the encounter left her with a giant cold sore and oral herpes."

http://www.businessinsider.com/amanda-knox-talks-about-hook-ups-pot-use-2013-5#ixzz2ngGJAxv6