Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

[redheadedgal]

Funny thing about websites, comments can appear and disappear in the blink of an eye. After the trial proceedings today, of course there's nothing on Knox's site about soliciting funds for some unspecified project in Meredith's name. She's not stupid. Knox would have removed that the minute the victim's lawyer spoke the words.

i have been reading/viewing amanda's website since it was created. the ONLY link to any funds in MK's name is the one currently seen.

this is ridiculous, imo.

 

[Cappuccino]

Where is the evidence of this??

La Nazione ‏@qn_lanazione 1m
Process Meredith, attorney Fabiani (Kercher): "Amanda Knox have had extreme sexual experiences"


And here is Maresca blatantly lying:

La Nazione ‏@qn_lanazione 31s
Process Meredith, lawyer Maresca: "Amanda Knox said to her mother 'I was there'

:facepalm:

Yes, these two clangers got over looked in the discussion about Maresca's more obvious lie, (unless the media misquoted him).

 

[aa9511]

Round and round we go again. It was stated by the lawyer today, in a court of law, that Amanda was profiting from donations on her website in the name of Meredith for a memorial for her. Now, did he say that Amanda had this previously on her website and it was now no longer on there? Or did he instead make a claim to the court that Amanda was still profiting to this day?

If we, a website for victims, can not speak the truth about all involved then what point is there? Because a lawyer lies in court to smear one of the defendants, it has nothing to do with the victim that was killed. It does not smear her name at all. What it does is show that the lawyer her family chose is questionable in his accusations.

A link has been provided to Amanda's site proving that there is no such request for donations in Meredith's name where Amanda will receive the donations.

We don't know anything. She could have gotten word what he said or was going to say, and deleted it immediately, they would not have known it was no longer on there.

 

[aa9511]

Is that an opinion or known as fact? If it is fact then of course a link can be provided, yes? Unless someone was sitting with Amanda during the time that the Kercher lawyer was speaking and watching her every move, then one can not say what Amanda did or did not do.

Yes, we can't say. Neither side can say at this point. Because you're right, we do not know what Amanda did or did not do.

 

[otto]

Yes, these two clangers got over looked in the discussion about Maresca's more obvious lie, (unless the media misquoted him).

There is no dishonesty in stating that Knox was into extreme sexual experience. She saw a complete stranger on the train and then had sex with him. She met Sollecito one afternoon and that evening had sex with him.

According to Knox:

"Casual sex was, for my generation, simply what you did. I didn't feel that my attitude toward sex made me different from anyone else in my villa. ... I told myself, People have flings."

http://www.businessinsider.com/amanda-knox-talks-about-hook-ups-pot-use-2013-5#ixzz2ngHZCdEM

This is Knox's perception of sexual experience, but many would view it as extreme.

I was discussing this case with my daughter on the weekend and mentioned that the suspect had met a stranger on the train and then had sex with him. My daughter completed high school in Switzerland and is very experienced with traveling in Europe. She had a good laugh at Knox for her stupidity.

"The sentencing report released by the Court of Cassation refers to a conversation Knox, a University of Washington student who was spending a year in Perugia when she was arrested, had with her parents during a prison visit, Seattlepi.com reports.

"I was there," she allegedly said.

Her statement was not used as evidence at her trial. It was included in a sentencing report on Rudy Guede, an immigrant from Ivory Coast who was tried separately from Knox and her former Italian boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...-told-parents-I-was-there/UPI-19361299028904/

Dempsey makes a feeble attempt to interpret her "I was there" statement. (see Dempsey blog)

 

[Sigh Sister]

And that media claim was taken as gospel, yet again, and used to make all kinds of nasty comments about Amanda. Now that the claim is being questioned and a link to Amanda's website has been provided to show the claim was not factual, that a link was there to the Meredith Kercher Fund only, it is being questioned.

This is why "witch hunt" is sometimes used in Amanda's case. Say something negative about Amanda and several jump on board. Prove that negative is not true and it is deemed wrong information.

MOO

I have visited Amanda's website many times, and this is true. I clicked on the link, and it went to the Meredith Kercher Fund. FWIW

 

[Myvice]

I think that would be as insane as the TV station faking a climb to Filomena's window with special effects, as had been claimed here :facepalm:

JMO


BTW The link to Kercher's website is still there as it was before, so no, it seems there is no truth whatsoever in the above.

Iif this is the website you are referring to then both Merideth and Raffeales links have been removed since last night when I viewed it.

http://www.amandaknox.com/

 

[aa9511]

I think unless we see a link confirming Maresca's words it is safe to conclude he is a liar.

In my opinion, that not not constitute labelling him a liar, by default. You need proof that he lied, as in proof that it was never at one point on her website. Which we simply don't know at this point.

 

[Amber29]

And that media claim was taken as gospel, yet again, and used to make all kinds of nasty comments about Amanda. Now that the claim is being questioned and a link to Amanda's website has been provided to show the claim was not factual, that a link was there to the Meredith Kercher Fund only, it is being questioned.

This is why "witch hunt" is sometimes used in Amanda's case. Say something negative about Amanda and several jump on board. Prove that negative is not true and it is deemed wrong information.

MOO

Just for the record I always thought it was wrong. I read along and followed the trial through the tweets. I knew nothing like that was said.

Not all are on a witch hunt but I do completely agree with what Maresca actually said.

The same "witch hunt" applies to all those who jumped on board with calling the victims lawyer a liar. So everyone is guilty of jumping to conclusions aren't they?

 

[Cappuccino]

There is no dishonesty in stating that Knox was into extreme sexual experience. She saw a complete stranger on the train and then had sex with him. She met Sollecito one afternoon and that evening had sex with him.

According to Knox:

"Casual sex was, for my generation, simply what you did. I didn't feel that my attitude toward sex made me different from anyone else in my villa. ... I told myself, People have flings."

http://www.businessinsider.com/amanda-knox-talks-about-hook-ups-pot-use-2013-5#ixzz2ngHZCdEM

This is Knox's perception of sexual experience, but many would view it as extreme.

I was discussing this case with my daughter on the weekend and mentioned that the suspect had met a stranger on the train and then had sex with him. My daughter completed high school in Switzerland and is very experienced with traveling in Europe. She had a good laugh at Knox for her stupidity.

Dempsey makes a feeble attempt to interpret her "I was there" statement. (see Dempsey blog)

A one night stand is not an extreme sexual experience in any way that is relevant to a murder trial, and nor is having sex on a first date. We're not talking about a meeting of the Jehovah's Witnesses here, this is a criminal trial where they are deciding whether or not Amanda took part in a rape and murder with two others. In that context, an "extreme sexual experience" is suggestive of something involving sadism, bondage, coercion, something of that nature.

To suggest otherwise is disingenuous. If the lawyer was trying to imply that Amanda is a , well maybe she is, but what does that have to do with the murder of Meredith Kercher?

 

[otto]

"A sentencing report just released by the highest Italian appeals court sheds new light on why so many Italian judges have maintained Amanda Knox was involved in her roommate's murder.

The document, among others, cites a conversation Knox had with her parents while under surveillance during a prison visit in which she said "I was there," apparently referring to the night of the murder"

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Italian-judges-report-Amanda-Knox-says-she-was-1034687.php

 

[Katody]

Iif this is the website you are referring to then both Merideth and Raffeales links have been removed since last night when I viewed it.

http://www.amandaknox.com/

You must be mistaken.

Two links at the bottom of this page:

http://www.amandaknox.com/the-meredith-kercher-murder/

As they always were.

 

[otto]

A one night stand is not an extreme sexual experience in any way that is relevant to a murder trial, and nor is having sex on a first date. We're not talking about a meeting of the Jehovah's Witnesses here, this is a criminal trial where they are deciding whether or not Amanda took part in a rape and murder with two others. In that context, an "extreme sexual experience" is suggestive of something involving sadism, bondage, coercion, something of that nature.

To suggest otherwise is disingenuous. If the lawyer was trying to imply that Amanda is a , well maybe she is, but what does that have to do with the murder of Meredith Kercher?

What constitutes an "extreme sexual experience" is obviously a matter of opinion. In Italy, which is predominantly a Roman Catholic country, hooking up with strangers on the train and having sex with men that are strangers could very understandably be interpreted as "extreme sexual experience". The reason for mentioning Knox's absence of morality is to create a barrier between Meredith and Knox. That is, in my opinion, the lawyer for Meredith Kercher wants the courts to understand that Meredith was nothing like Knox. Knox, on the other hand, wants to be viewed with a gentle perception that is awarded to Meredith.

 

[Katody]

Just for the record I always thought it was wrong. I read along and followed the trial through the tweets. I knew nothing like that was said.

Not all are on a witch hunt but I do completely agree with what Maresca actually said.

The same "witch hunt" applies to all those who jumped on board with calling the victims lawyer a liar. So everyone is guilty of jumping to conclusions aren't they?

Maresca's words are on video at the link Otto provided. Maresca did lie.

 

[Cappuccino]

What constitutes an "extreme sexual experience" is obviously a matter of opinion. In Italy, which is predominantly a Roman Catholic country, hooking up with strangers on the train and having sex with men that are strangers could very understandably be interpreted as "extreme sexual experience". The reason for mentioning Knox's absence of morality is to create a barrier between Meredith and Knox. That is, in my opinion, the lawyer for Meredith Kercher wants to the courts to understand that Meredith was nothing like Knox. Knox, on the other hand, wants to be viewed with a gentle perception that is awarded to Meredith.

I also live in a predominantly Catholic country, and I cannot imagine any woman's one night stand being produced as evidence for the prosecution if she were accused of murder. Seems to me like Italy is a fairly misogynist country, apart from being a Catholic one.

 

[aa9511]

"what her family has been through for all these years".....that really speaks loudly to me. I understand the other side, I understand that people think Amanda's life has been unecessarily ruined and infringed upon. But Meredith's family has also gone through a lot, including the complete loss of their daughter, never being able to speak or see her again.

What I am getting from some of the comments is that, well, they kind of brought all of this (after Meredith's death) onto themselves with their quest to "get 'em." That if they had just stayed quiet and shu* up, well, this whole thing would have gone a lot smoother.

But the same could be said for Amanda and RS. If they hadn't told their pack of lies, things would have gone "smoother" for them too. If they had just told the truth.

It is their lies which has caused them so much grief and just keeps pushing them deeper and deeper.

So Amanda and RS are totally blame-less for their situation? What about all of the lies and inconsistencies, coming directly out of their own mouths?

 

[Sigh Sister]

"A sentencing report just released by the highest Italian appeals court sheds new light on why so many Italian judges have maintained Amanda Knox was involved in her roommate's murder.

The document, among others, cites a conversation Knox had with her parents while under surveillance during a prison visit in which she said "I was there," apparently referring to the night of the murder"

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Italian-judges-report-Amanda-Knox-says-she-was-1034687.php

I know this has been discussed many times here, and it was taken out of context. The " I was there" comment was in reference to her being at Raffaele's NOT at the cottage.

http://mynorthwest.com/11/434462/Report-New-documents-show-Amanda-Knox-saying-I-was-there


"According to the author of "Murder in Italy, the Story of Amanda Knox," the quote was taken out of context and the "there" actually refers to Sollecito's apartment."

"'s mother, Edda Mellas, backed up that account in an email to KIRO-FM. "The prison conversation they are talking about was cleared up a couple of years ago," Mellas wrote. "It was totally taken out of context. Amanda was talking about being at Raf's house and said 'I can not believe they think I had anything to do with this, because I was there.' Again, meaning Raf's house."

 

[otto]

I also live in a predominantly Catholic country, and I cannot imagine any woman's one night stand being produced as evidence for the prosecution if she were accused of murder. Seems to me like Italy is a fairly misogynist country, apart from being a Catholic one.

It speaks to character. It is not unusual to describe the character of a murderer during an appeal.

It is not true that those that believe in morality are misogynists.

 

[redheadedgal]

And AK has made millions off of this trial with a book deal. What is your point?

her book WTBH is about her life, including experiences while in italy to study. that included being accused of murder, put in jail, and enduring THREE trials.

the monies earned alowed her to pay off her debts (lawyers, parents, etc).

is wanting to pay off one's debts now considered a bad thing?

Could Maresca have read that in her memoir book or someplace? He must surely have gotten the idea somewhere?

iirc, no, it is not mentioned in WTBH.

 

[Katody]

So Amanda and RS are totally blame-less for their situation? What about all of the lies and inconsistencies, coming directly out of their own mouths?

What lies? Could you be more specific?