Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

[redheadedgal]

bbm

I thought someone said we shouldn't get all caught up on links and it slows the thread, when it doesn't need a link, etc..?

are you asserting i said this? read back lol

 

[SMK]

I think I get it now. If Amanda says something that is perceived to be a lie it is a bad, bad thing. If anyone against Amanda says something that is perceived to be a lie it is ok and acceptable. Never mind finding out the truth about the murder of Meredith Kercher. It isn't needed. The "truth" according to some that Amanda is guilty is all that is needed.

I hope you're wrong.

 

[redheadedgal]

(it's funny to see my comments isolated and critiqued out of context)

nothing was "critiqued out of context"

 

[aa9511]

That would be why I followed it with another link that confirmed the same information. Here it is again ... in case you missed it.
"A lawyer urged an Italian appeals court on Monday to convict Amanda Knox of murdering British student Meredith Kercher and denounced as "unbearable" that the American was soliciting donations in Kercher's memory."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/victims-lawyer-seeks-knox-conviction-murder-21230989

(it's funny to see my comments isolated and critiqued out of context)

bbm

Yes, I like the bolding style much better. That way readers can read the context of the whole post, instead of only the part which the poster wants to convey, without the context.

I personally, get confused with the isolated quotes, and sometimes multiple posters' isolated quotes combined, which makes it even more confusing.

Then I have to link back and forth, back and forth, read back to their full comments to understand what was going on.

 

[Cappuccino]

Has he written a book yet? I haven't heard of one.

Did he link on there to a Kent Heitholt family's website, asking for people to donate to that site going from his site?

Ryan Ferguson has only very recently been released, so its a bit soon for him to have written a book. And afaik, Kent Heitholt's family have no website asking for donations for him to link to.

A better example would be Jason Baldwin of the West Memphis 3. He is currently writing a book, and also publically solicited donations for a memorial park in West Memphis in memory of the three children he was convicted of murdering. I don't recall hearing anyone complain about it either, although I may have missed it obviously.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Has he written a book yet? I haven't heard of one.

Did he link on there to a Kent Heitholt family's website, asking for people to donate to that site going from his site?

Wasn't he just recently released? Like a couple of weeks ago? I hope he does write a book. And I hope he makes a lot of money. A wrongful conviction has devastating consequences. He will forever have a cloud (as Amanda will) following him.

 

[Monzoo]

Has he written a book yet? I haven't heard of one.

Did he link on there to a Kent Heitholt family's website, asking for people to donate to that site going from his site?

No, he has not written a book to my knowledge. That was why I asked it in a conditional tense. (You may have noticed that I really like precision and try to bet as precise as possible. )

I know of no website setting up funds in Kent Heitholt's name.

Are those the only things about Amanda Knox's site to which you object?

As an aside, I appreciate have easy access to lots of the court transcripts. My Italian is very bad and not to the level of reading court documents, but I can make some things out with translation software.

 

[otto]

It is paradoxical that Mr. Maresca complains that Meredith is being forgotten, but then berates Amanda Knox for directing people toward a fund, one of whose purposes is to keep Meredith Kercher's memory alive.

Some help just isn't appreciated! Here, we have a convicted murderer attempting to align herself with the family of the victim. The family of the victim is again horrified by the actions of the convicted murderers. What now? Should we view the family of the victim as being out of line for being upset that the convicted murderer will not keep a distance?

 

[Amber29]

I think I get it now. If Amanda says something that is perceived to be a lie it is a bad, bad thing. If anyone against Amanda says something that is perceived to be a lie it is ok and acceptable. Never mind finding out the truth about the murder of Meredith Kercher. It isn't needed. The "truth" according to some that Amanda is guilty is all that is needed.

No many times AKs lies have been pointed out and they are written off as mistakes, misunderstandings, or someone else's fault.

Today a quote from a lawyer representing the Kerchers was spun so far and ended in him being a out and out liar.

Let's not forget some believe everyone involved on the guilt side to be liars and incompetent at their jobs. An entire system on a "witch hunt" to get AK.

 

[otto]

As I have said in a previous post, Amanda and Meredith will forever be linked. That will never change no matter the outcome of numerous trials. Amanda should not be expected to not talk about what happened to her. It is well within her right to do so. What she has not done is open herself up to folks believing the lies and making nasty remarks about her based on those lies by those opposed to her. I believe that Amanda is innocent as well as RS. And that by being innocent they too are victims, as are their families. Discussing the case is one thing, making snide remarks based on lies told in court is another.

MOO

They are linked in the same way that Charles Manson and Sharon Tate are linked. That does not give Charles Manson the right to create a website and link to victim based websites created by Roman Polanski. In fact, that could be viewed as harassing the victim.

 

[otto]

bbm

I thought someone said we shouldn't get all caught up on links and it slows the thread, when it doesn't need a link, etc..?

Opinions don't need links. I have stated upthread that it is obviously the opinion of the lawyer for Meredith Kercher that Knox participated in extreme sexual experiences. The experiences that he is referring to could just as easily be the brutal attack on Meredith. That was, without doubt, an extreme sexual experience for the convicted murderers.

 

[TorisMom003]

They are linked in the same way that Charles Manson and Sharon Tate are linked. That does not give Charles Manson the right to create a website and link to victim based websites created by Roman Polanski. In fact, that could be viewed as harassing the victim.

That is an opinion and not yet fact. It can not be claimed as fact until Amanda is (if she is) once again found guilty. Her past guilty verdict was overturned on appeal. This is something that is often forgotten. If Amanda had not won her appeal she would still be sitting in an Italian prison, yet she isn't. She is able to sit wherever she likes as she is free.

It makes no difference if Amanda is found guilty or not guilty, she will still forever be connected to Meredith. This case has done that. This is something that the Kercher family is going to have to deal with as will Amanda and her family.

MOO

 

[aa9511]

No, he has not written a book to my knowledge. That was why I asked it in a conditional tense. (You may have noticed that I really like precision and try to bet as precise as possible. )

I know of no website setting up funds in Kent Heitholt's name.

Are those the only things about Amanda Knox's site to which you object?

As an aside, I appreciate have easy access to lots of the court transcripts. My Italian is very bad and not to the level of reading court documents, but I can make some things out with translation software.

Yes, Amanda is providing a service for people, which she is getting compensated for by some of her readers, in the form of donations.

 

[aa9511]

Opinions don't need links. I have stated upthread that it is obviously the opinion of the lawyer for Meredith Kercher that Knox participated in extreme sexual experiences. The experiences that he is referring to could just as easily be the brutal attack on Meredith. That was, without doubt, an extreme sexual experience for the convicted murderers.

Yes, I got that it was an opinion. I think sometimes people don't agree with your opinion, so then asking facts when it's clearly your opinion.

 

[otto]

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bbm

Yes, I like the bolding style much better. That way readers can read the context of the whole post, instead of only the part which the poster wants to convey, without the context.

I personally, get confused with the isolated quotes, and sometimes multiple posters' isolated quotes combined, which makes it even more confusing.

Then I have to link back and forth, back and forth, read back to their full comments to understand what was going on.

My brains must be scrambled today. First I'm thinking about Dr Seuss in the context of sex on the train, in a box and so on, and now this whole debate takes on this appearance in my mind

Papageno-Papagena Duet - YouTube

 

[Amber29]

Nice that Maresca also reiterated where the C&V report stands

"The independent experts Vecchiotti and Conti were incomplete and incompetent. They have had problems in other Italian trials, including Via Poma and the Consenza court (a judge rejected Vecchiotti’s expert opinion, which was challenged by others who found DNA evidence she had overlooked, changing outcome of the case). Their work was “fatiscente.”

http://thefreelancedesk.com/front_featured/amanda-knox-appeal-2/

 

[otto]

That is an opinion and not yet fact. It can not be claimed as fact until Amanda is (if she is) once again found guilty. Her past guilty verdict was overturned on appeal. This is something that is often forgotten. If Amanda had not won her appeal she would still be sitting in an Italian prison, yet she isn't. She is able to sit wherever she likes as she is free.

It makes no difference if Amanda is found guilty or not guilty, she will still forever be connected to Meredith. This case has done that. This is something that the Kercher family is going to have to deal with as will Amanda and her family.

MOO

The last appeal was annulled. That has not been forgotten.

 

[TorisMom003]

The last appeal was annulled. That has not been forgotten.

And yet she is free as is RS. How can it be that she is a convicted murderer who's appeal was annulled and be on trial yet again to find her guilty?

 

[otto]

Nice that Maresca also reiterated where the C&V report stands

"The independent experts Vecchiotti and Conti were incomplete and incompetent. They have had problems in other Italian trials, including Via Poma and the Consenza court (a judge rejected Vecchiotti’s expert opinion, which was challenged by others who found DNA evidence she had overlooked, changing outcome of the case). Their work was “fatiscente.”

http://thefreelancedesk.com/front_featured/amanda-knox-appeal-2/

I like this remark from the lawyer

"•We have said many times that DNA doesn’t fly. But Sollecito does not fly either. The material left by Sollecito’s foot is abundant, otherwise it would not have been stamped so clearly. On this point the cassation sentence is crystal clear. There was a cleanup."

http://thefreelancedesk.com/front_featured/amanda-knox-appeal-2/

 

[aa9511]

My brains must be scrambled today. First I'm thinking about Dr Seuss in the context of sex on the train, in a box and so on, and now this whole debate takes on this appearance in my mind

Papageno-Papagena Duet - YouTube

LOL! I love that!