Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

[SMK]

The last words are on video you linked. It's edited like this.

Okie, let me look again....

 

[otto]

OK, then maybe I received a false impression (it was a strong one, though). :facepalm: I don't have a tape to the closing words, do you have a link? Of course the statement (5 pp) was eloquent and moving. OK, then perhaps he was moved and will reflect as will the lay judges. :blushing::seeya:

This?

Check out the expression at the end. He does not look impressed with her lawyers.

[video=youtube;Nx4m6TCQl1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx4m6TCQl1s[/video]

 

[Myvice]

I'm wondering what those that think the Italian justice system is so bad think about the idea of someone being allowed to write a letter to the court to express themselves without being cross examined regarding the content of the letter.

Everyone gets to have their viewpoint heard. How do you feel about it?

How does Amanda's letter stack up to Merideth's family attorney requesting that she take references to Merideth off her website? Should Amanda's letter hold more weight because she had the judge read it rather than reading it herself in court? JAQ

 

[SMK]

This?

Amanda Knox declares innocence of Meredith Kercher murder in letter to Florence court -- video - YouTube

Yes. What is your opinion? :blushingdoh,:facepalm: just saw what you posted, thanks>> you perceived it as I did ):blushing:
I really thought Nencini was reading it in a rushed, bored, disdainful way - until Katody set me right

 

[Cappuccino]

I'm wondering what those that think the Italian justice system is so bad think about the idea of someone being allowed to write a letter to the court to express themselves without being cross examined regarding the content of the letter.

Everyone gets to have their viewpoint heard. How do you feel about it?

How does Amanda's letter stack up to Merideth's family attorney requesting that she take references to Merideth off her website? Should Amanda's letter hold more weight because she had the judge read it rather than reading it herself in court? JAQ

Mignini was allowed to read Guede's letter in court without Guede being cross examined on the contents of it. I don't think either should be allowed, but if one is allowed both should be.

 

[SMK]

I'm wondering what those that think the Italian justice system is so bad think about the idea of someone being allowed to write a letter to the court to express themselves without being cross examined regarding the content of the letter.

Everyone gets to have their viewpoint heard. How do you feel about it?

How does Amanda's letter stack up to Merideth's family attorney requesting that she take references to Merideth off her website? Should Amanda's letter hold more weight because she had the judge read it rather than reading it herself in court? JAQ

I guess in the US we cannot do this (until we are convicted and about to be led away to a black hole) and if we give spontaneous statements, a belt with electic shock is put on us, and if we dare speak again, we get a jolt ( I have ssen this in quite a few trials--- kind of chilling). So Italy seems quite fair by comparison.

 

[SMK]

This?

Check out the expression at the end. He does not look impressed with her lawyers.

Amanda Knox declares innocence of Meredith Kercher murder in letter to Florence court -- video - YouTube

BBM- Yes, his expression to my thinking clearly says to the lawyers, "OK? I read it. I didn't want to, but I did it. Finis. "

 

[otto]

It is lacking in tact and finesse, for certain. If I were in Knox's shoes , upon hearing from Maresca, I would have posted on my blog: After hearing from the Kercher family attorney, and out of respect, I have removed references of Meredith Kercher from my blog. This would not be committing to any idea that she had no right to honor Meredith, just that she was respecting their wishes. She seems if not cruel, then a bit feisty. A bit feisty.

Fiesty? That's not a word I would have chosen. The Kercher's have lost their daughter. The last six years of trial have not put the experience behind them. They have been very quiet throughout the entire process. They haven't made a spectacle of themselves in the media. It seems that they have made one very discrete request, through a lawyer, that Knox respect their daughter and them by removing references to Meredith from the KnoxBlog.

Knox's response gives the appearance that she wants to fight with them, that she makes demands and is pushy about those demands, holding ransom that unless they do what she wants, she will continue to do the one thing that causes them tremendous grief. This strikes me as an absolutely cruel act.

 

[Katody]

Yes. What is your opinion? :blushingdoh,:facepalm: just saw what you posted, thanks>> you perceived it as I did ):blushing:
I really thought Nencini was reading it in a rushed, bored, disdainful way - until Katody set me right

I don't think it's reasonable to expect the judge to put emotion and actor's skills into reading 5 pages of text during the trial.

Having seen the judges read other things I think Nencini comes up positively.
Definitely not scornful.

Anyway the letter

1. had been read aloud ( by the judge, no less)
2. is in the court record for the jurors to refer to.

ETA the very fact that the judge accepted the letter into the record and read it himself is meaningful.

 

[SMK]

Fiesty? That's not a word I would have chosen. The Kercher's have lost their daughter. The last six years of trial have not put the experience behind them. They have been very quiet throughout the entire process. They haven't made a spectacle of themselves in the media. It seems that they have made one very discrete request that Knox respect their daughter and them by removing references to Meredith from the KnoxBlog.

Knox's response gives the appearance that she wants to fight with them, that she makes demands and is pushy about those demands, holding ransom that unless they do what she wants, she will continue to do the one thing that causes them tremendous grief. This strikes me as an absolutely cruel act.

Feisty, as in spoiling for a fight. Do you not agree? Is this not your own impression?:tantrum:

 

[otto]

Yes. What is your opinion? :blushingdoh,:facepalm: just saw what you posted, thanks>> you perceived it as I did ):blushing:
I really thought Nencini was reading it in a rushed, bored, disdainful way - until Katody set me right

I hear a flat voice reading words. When finished, he does not look pleased. He followed the letter by telling Knox's lawyers that he doesn't know whether she wrote it. I don't think the letter will be given any further consideration. I think it was read into the court only to avoid Knox creating another media spectacle with claims that her letter was not read. The Judge said it was irregular and perhaps, with any other suspect, it would not have been read. Knox probably knew that it was not really allowed but was pushy and wanted to have her own way regardless of protocol.

 

[otto]

Feisty, as in spoiling for a fight. Do you not agree? Is this not your own impression?:tantrum:

Yes, thank you. Fiesty. No, not an expression I've ever used.

 

[redheadedgal]

cheaptickets.com. Didn't think it was important

on that site, a return flight from SEA to FLR was still about $4000 (2-3 nights stay for 1-2 days in court).

why wouldn't a source be important? harmony has told us repeatedly to back up facts with a link

(as evidenced by her having to take the time to edit posts to add the correct source for almost all tweets posted today since posters forgot)

 

[SMK]

I don't think it's reasonable to expect the judge to put emotion and actor's skills into reading 5 pages of text during the trial.

Having seen the judges read other things I think Nencini comes up positively.
Definitely not scornful.

Anyway the letter

1. had been read aloud ( by the judge, no less)
2. is in the court record for the jurors to refer to.

ETA the very fact that the judge accepted the letter into the record and read it himself is meaningful.

OK, granted. Score for the defense that he even read it.

( But I still maintain his reading was at too fast a clip, and too dead pan. I can't doubt my own senses. He didn't have to hold forth in some theatrical or operatic manner. But he didn't have to slaughter the words as he did. It reminds me of when I let my therapist read my innermost thoughts aloud from my journal. He mangled it so badly, I ripped the notebook from his hand....He told me he resented me forcing him to read it aloud. )

 

[SMK]

Yes, thank you. Fiesty. No, not an expression I've ever used.

Yes, what I meant to convey is that at a time when she should be acting with deference, sweetly demur, and modest, she is coming off more like a girl with bravado, feisty, with a bit of a confrontational stance. This , in turn, could be viewed as cruel (to Meredith's parents) and it also indicates the core of the girl is very flinty, very steely, and that she is not one to give in. Stubborn, prideful. This is what I meant to convey.

 

[SMK]

I hear a flat voice reading words. When finished, he does not look pleased. He followed the letter by telling Knox's lawyers that he doesn't know whether she wrote it. I don't think the letter will be given any further consideration. I think it was read into the court only to avoid Knox creating another media spectacle with claims that her letter was not read. The Judge said it was irregular and perhaps, with any other suspect, it would not have been read. Knox probably knew that it was not really allowed but was pushy and wanted to have her own way regardless of protocol.

Yes, Nincini seemed to me to be openly irritated, and a bit resentful.

As you state, his hands were tied: If he refused to read it, global headlines would have screamed, "Italian Judge Refuses to Read Knox Letter" and we know how that would play on CNN and in the American media in general.

This does seem to be an international and political fight.

One can view this through two lenses:

1. On the one hand, arrogant and bumbling Italian police and Prosecutor Mignini swoop down on American girl and hang on like a dog with a bone, allowing gross miscarriage of justice. These agitators will not let go, their Italian pride is at stake. The farce has no end in sight, even after 6 years.

2. On the other hand: Classical Italian moral prosecutor and police believe that there is sufficient evidence to prove American girl and her boyfriend let loose in Perugia in a ghastly way. Enter Politically Correct and Liberal American media and public relations: Now they are the ones who will not let go; they become the political agitators , and pride, arrogance, and hubris drives them on and on.

 

[redheadedgal]

The tragedy of Meredith Kercher -- How the Kercher's have been failed by their lawyer and the Italian authorities


http://groundreport.com/the-tragedy-of-meredith-kercher-2/

 

[SMK]

The tragedy of Meredith Kercher -- How the Kercher's have been failed by their lawyer and the Italian authorities


http://groundreport.com/the-tragedy-of-meredith-kercher-2/

If Knox and Sollecito were not involved, then of course this piece is 100% correct and true and right. In this case, the Kerchers were done a disservice in being led to believe that their daughter suffered at the hands of her own flatmate, when in reality, a simple one man burglary-turned-murder took her life. Their grief and bitterness is being unnecessarily protracted.

On the other hand, If they in fact had some involvement, then it of course does not apply. I wish I knew who to believe on the evidence. It all comes down to that.

 

[redheadedgal]

She makes no such demands.

in the comment section of her blog, under that post, amanda (13:15 pm) explains in more detail her words/decision re: maresca's request...

another comment mentions there still is no headstone for meredith... is this true? if yes, is it normal in the UK to wait 6 years to do this?


and otto, were you able to establish if the knife overlay was accurate? if not, please post your findings when you can... thanks.

 

[SMK]

in the comment section of her blog, under that post, amanda (13:15 pm) explains in more detail her words/decision re: maresca's request...

another comment mentions there still is no headstone for meredith... is this true? if yes, is it normal in the UK to wait 6 years to do this?


and otto, were you able to establish if the knife overlay was accurate? if not, please post your findings when you can... thanks.

OK, have read her several comments. She does not trust Maresca, and feels compelled and entitled to honor her friend, Meredith. I think I can understand her reasoning.

See thumbnail for Meredith Kercher grave in Mitcham Cemetery. It has a marker, (a temporary one, it has been called) but no headstone. I don't know why.