An arrest imminent?

[KoldKase]

I agree with the both of you, but I also see the possibility of JR throwing Patsy under the bus if it starts to look like his arrest is imminent. All he would have to do is claim a death bed confession and profess to know nothing of her involvement till that time. Could anyone sue him for things he did not know at the time? I have no idea about the law suits, but it is my opinion that he will give her up before he gets charged with the whole shebang. I also don't believe he is innocent in this crime but we all know how the R's are, not a one of them will go down if they can pin it on someone else.

That's an interesting scenario, joeskidbeck.

Maybe JR could sidestep perjury in this scenario. But he would still have to worry about lawsuits, because it would be easy to challenge him and in a civil suit the plaintiff would only have to prove he was more likely lying about that than not: 51% or better chance of JR lying about having any suspicion of Patsy's guilty wouldn't be hard to meet in such a circumstance, do you think?

And then there would be the issue of allowing PERV Karr to be arrested and hauled back to this country without a peep from JR. I'd think PERV Karr might be filing his own lawsuit on that one. Especially since Wood and Patsy's sister Pam went on TV declaring, or at least implying, VICTORY! Wood worked for John, after all.

Then there are the statements JR said to Lacy when she "exonerated" the Ramseys: "We have always known we're not guilty" or something like that.

What about all the money it cost Boulder to arrest PERV Karr, not to mention, national and international agencies? To do those additional "touch" DNA tests, etc.?

Oh my gosh! And then there is the WORST! John would have admitted HE LIED TO OPRAH AND BARBARA WALTERS!!! Oh, the HORROR!!

Anyhow, as you know, all these would pale in comparison to John's troubles if he were in fact going to be arrested for the murder or some part in the murder or cover up.

But here's the thing there is just no getting around: until someone is actually charged with the crime in Colorado, no one can be charged with obstruction in the investigation of that crime. Alex Hunter banked on this law, as much as he obstructed the investigation himself.

 

[joeskidbeck]

I agree with you on all points, KK. Remember JR's reaction when Karr was arrested? JR would have to actually be a Saint to react the way he did! If I had been on the fence or IDI that day, his reaction alone would have bumped me off the fence or over to RDI.

 

[JMO8778]

I often wondered about that myself.Do we know whether he gave DNA samples?I didn't know for a long time that he was also a family FRIEND,I thought he was the kid's doc and that's it.

I don't know about the dna,would be interesting to know though.
yes he kept Patsy pretty drugged up,esp. those first few days,like he himself had something to hide.jmo.

 

[UKGuy]

I don't know about the dna,would be interesting to know though.
yes he kept Patsy pretty drugged up,esp. those first few days,like he himself had something to hide.jmo.

JMO8778,

imo, keeping Patsy quiet was a priority. That he was called either means a fat fee was promised, or they all have something to hide?

Its the prior molestation that is the real issue, this offers a motive for the staging, and why there will never be any public admission.


.

 

[LinasK]

:ashamed:lol,I just couldn't take it any longer and bought the Globe


KOLDKASE they are pretty much reporting that YOU have cracked the case !!!!
seriously,they are stating that the new evidence which is the doll will lead to an imminent arrest,I quote:

"Experts believe it wasn't a detective who made the bombshell new discovery but an amateur sleuth.
An eagle eyed poster named "koldkase" on the ramsey case internet discussion group Forums for Justice.org looked at an old photo of the basement crime scene and spotted what appears to be a small,blond doll in a red and white outfit with its arm extended.
"this was a real bomb shell" forum owner Tricia Griffith tells GLOBE."we've all seen these pictures for years but never noticed that doll which was right next to the blanket that covered JonBenet's body.Was it there to comfort her in death?"

Which issue was it?:waitasec: Because the Oct. 18th issue was about the autopsy video that Lou Smit released, and Tricia's reaction to that.

 

[JMO8778]

JMO8778,

imo, keeping Patsy quiet was a priority. That he was called either means a fat fee was promised, or they all have something to hide?

Its the prior molestation that is the real issue, this offers a motive for the staging, and why there will never be any public admission.


.

indeed,and I somehow get the feeling it wasn't about money at all.Dr Beuf seemed all too anxious be there and to keep Patsy from talking coherently for awhile.

 

[madeleine]

19 TOM HANEY: You made three calls to

20 Dr. Buff 's office on December 7. Okay. Just--

21 PATSY RAMSEY: (INAUDIBLE).

22 TOM HANEY: Correct? Three in one

23 day. One at 6:28 p.m., one at 6:50 p.m., and

24 one at 6:59 p.m. Do you recall that day?

25 PATSY RAMSEY: To the office or

0580

1 his home?

2 TOM HANEY: To the office.

3 PATSY RAMSEY: No, I don't

4 remember.

5 TOM HANEY: Would that have been

6 for something like this, to remember?

7 PATSY RAMSEY: Seems like I would

8 have remembered, you know.

9 TOM HANEY: Three times in less

10 than an hour?

11 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah. I just

12 don't --

13 TOM HANEY: Seems like you call--

14 PATSY RAMSEY: Did I have, is

15 there, you know, a check-up report after that,

16 as to what that was?

17 TOM HANEY: Um, sure -- well, I

18 would assume that his office made some sort of

19 at a minimum a notation?

20 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.

21 TOM HANEY: And or a chart entry, I

22 don't know. I haven't seen that. That's one of

23 the reasons I was asking you.





Did they get Beuf's records or not?I know he was hiding them in some PO box.....but did LE ever get a warrant for them?Unbelievable if not.

 

[joeskidbeck]

For all we know, LE has those records and they very well could prove she was being molested. All of us would like to know for certain but I don't think that this fact alone would allow them to bring charges against any of the Ramseys. They would still not have enough evidence to charge one person specifically. The only way we will ever know this is IF the case ever goes to trial.