Andrea Lyon New DP Atty

[okiedokietoo]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/28/ijvm.01.html
ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Aired May 28, 2009 - 19:00:00
(quote from video clip shown on JVM)
ANDREA LYON, CASEY ANTHONY`S DEATH PENALTY ATTY.:
"The prosecution has to be able to convict Casey Anthony, and since she`s innocent, one hopes that we can actually get a fair jury that will acquit her.
But the state has noticed up the death penalty. They have done so for strategic reasons in my opinion."

...ok, I give, what's the prosecutions strategy....

 

[Oakley]

She is a Law Professor at DePaul College of Law AND director of the DePaul Center for Justice in Capital Cases and Death Penalty Legal Clinic. She has tried over 130 homicide cases. IMO she knows exactly what she's doing.
Defense files the motion about RK. They go on tv morning shows. The people that haven't been following and reading all released evidence see the morning shows and wonder why LE has it in for KC because the Defense is all they see - LE isn't on the morning shows saying anything. Judge does or doesn't have a hearing. It doesn't matter because the Defense achieved what they set out to do...create REASONABLE DOUBT.

Yup. And this is precisely why defense refused gag order. MOO.

 

[mountaintime]

I agree she's an excellent speaker........and obviously very intelligent. Maybe even the genius she believes herself to be. I would only wish she would have chosen to make a more positive contribution with her talent.

You have hit on the heart of the matter.

This woman cares not a whit for what is true, or right...
certainly she has no compassion for victims or their families.

She cares only for her vaunted reputation... and "the win".

 

[Daylight/1257]

AL may have a surprise coming to her! This is KC land and there is no room for a star to shine brighter than the accused. How dare she upstage the Princess at trial!

I wonder if AL has a column on her win/loss sheet for "cases I got fired from?" That would throw a kink in the proceedings! JB can't go on without her. KC can fire her.

 

[kew17]

My ulcer has been acting up which makes me a grumpy person, so don't mind me.

But.....I now more than ever truly 100% of my fiber believes she took on this case for the challenge and to promote that book that is due out in a few months.

I did find it humorous that she tried a case where they had photgraphic evidence of the lady cashing the check....hummmm...sound familiar? Her tactics on that case, however, are not applicable to this defendant. From listening to some of her case stories, she's represented a very dark nasty side of human behavior. Not that KC's murder of her own daughter is any less nasty and dispicable, but her previous methods for the other defendant's cases are just not going to fly here. Sure, CA was probably difficult to grow up under, but com'on, this girl has been handed everything to her, her whole life, including the CEO position of that family. It wasn't good enough for her. SHe had to have more, so she stole. She wanted Tony, but her daughter's presence was problematic for her fairytale. I mean please......KC is a cold, callous, narsacistic murderer of her child, but she was not raised under the circumstances as severe of some of Lyons previous clients.

 

[cecybeans]

I agree she's an excellent speaker........and obviously very intelligent. Maybe even the genius she believes herself to be. I would only wish she would have chosen to make a more positive contribution with her talent.

It's obvious she feels pretty sanctimonious saving lives - even if they are the dregs of society. Wonder how she'd feel living next to a few of them. NIMBY anyone?

 

[CarolinaMoon]

How long are they? I don't know how long I can stomach her #1 and #2 I have my whole house to organize, my mom and dad are moving here from Michigan this weekend and moving into my house I don't know if I have time! LOL!

I didn't watch the " Kronk videos" with the disgruntled folks because I'm worried about my time too, are those worth it? Should I set out time or just save it for a rainy no news sort of day?

I really don't know how long they were, I'm guessing no more than 1 hour combined. I will admit, my computer is in the very room I was cleaning at the time.

Good luck to you with all you have going on. I hope those audios are around for a while. Maybe you could bookmark them and listen a little at a time! The trial isn't until summer.

 

[BeanE]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/28/ijvm.01.html
ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Aired May 28, 2009 - 19:00:00
(quote from video clip shown on JVM)
ANDREA LYON, CASEY ANTHONY`S DEATH PENALTY ATTY.:
"The prosecution has to be able to convict Casey Anthony, and since she`s innocent, one hopes that we can actually get a fair jury that will acquit her.
But the state has noticed up the death penalty. They have done so for strategic reasons in my opinion."

...ok, I give, what's the prosecutions strategy....

BBM. I think she's referring to a belief some people have that the state went for the DP in order to get a DP qualified jury because they are statistically more likely to convict. Pro-defense minded people would say the SA has done that because they have a weak case, and want to bolster their chances for a conviction.

I can't recall if any member of the defense has come out and stated that directly, but various talking heads have.

I would say that might be so except for the fact that the SA did at one point take the DP off the table, and that was prior to Caylee's remains being found, at which point they had less evidence, and a 'weaker' case.

 

[BeanE]

That lecture could be a real eye-opener for any potential juror - in this or any case. Should be required listening. I'm not sure the average juror knows the extent of the insincerity, acting, and manipulation that goes on.

 

[magic-cat]

What good is it to be good at what you do if what you do is no good?
Getting scumbags life in prison rather than the death that they so rightly deserve is nothing to be proud of-what kind of achievement is that? Thanks to her, 30 folks are a burden on the system when they should, by the severity of their crimes, have been condemned. Congratulations Andrea, you are the best salvation out there. Must be a great honor.

 

[VALee]

In part one, she talks about someone wearing a strap-on, this lecture is unprofessional and full of failed attempts at humor where she is the only one laughing at her attempts.

 

[Just Jayla]

What good is it to be good at what you do if what you do is no good?
Getting scumbags life in prison rather than the death that they so rightly deserve is nothing to be proud of-what kind of achievement is that? Thanks to her, 30 folks are a burden on the system when they should, by the severity of their crimes, have been condemned. Congratulations Andrea, you are the best salvation out there. Must be a great honor.

I watched an atty. tonight that is involved with a certain upcoming federal trial that might be the most important trial in our country's history....and AL might take a 2nd to him.
But they are one in the same type of personality.....gratification in feeling superior and feeling as if you were able to manipulate someone's fate-EVERYONE is a victim of circumstance....
This is NOT representative of all defense attorneys-there are many shrewd defense attorneys out there that are advocating their client's legal interests and working purely through written law (watch any local misdemeanor/traffic case), not boosting their own egos.
JB is another story, he just loves being a "celebrattorney," but his skills as a practitioner are humbling.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

That lecture could be a real eye-opener for any potential juror - in this or any case. Should be required listening. I'm not sure the average juror knows the extent of the insincerity, acting, and manipulation that goes on.

Given the defense team's fixation on diggung up the past of everyone involved, I'd love to see that. I haven't heard her talk much about law other than how to get around things, do things she's not supposed to do and go against the spirit of the laws. If there were any decency in the legal profession she would not be practicing law.

Honestly, coming in from out of state to free a child murderer using the most questionable tactics imaginable, with a book coming out soon - doesn't really put one in mind of Abe Lincoln. Time to step up legal profession! Clean up your act this is sad and disgusting.

 

[static]

What good is it to be good at what you do if what you do is no good?
Getting scumbags life in prison rather than the death that they so rightly deserve is nothing to be proud of-what kind of achievement is that? Thanks to her, 30 folks are a burden on the system when they should, by the severity of their crimes, have been condemned. Congratulations Andrea, you are the best salvation out there. Must be a great honor.

Maybe Lyons should contribute 20 percent of every paycheck to house the murderers she defends so passionately. That would show how much she really "cares".

 

[TrY]

I'm listening to the WFTV audio part 1 of Andrea Lyon. So I'm thinking that her job will be to convince the DP qualified jury that Casey won't be a threat to others in prison, otherwise a jury will go for the DP rather than LWOP (assuming that Casey is convicted of 1st degree murder.)

As to AL's catty comments about women prosecutors' appearances, it's the pot calling the kettle....

 

[mydailyopinions]

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In the above video segment with Tony Pipitone, AL and LKB (thanks to Angelwhocares) one thing I noticed is that the defense is no longer claiming innocence.
The defense is now claiming that they are doing everything they can to save this monster's life.
They are claiming that the state hasn't done their jobs
They are claiming that kronk should have been fully investigated
They ARE NOT SAYING CASEY IS INNOCENT..

I can't help but wonder if AL with her experiences realizes the evidence against her is damning (especially when she specifically says that the testimony of the ex wives is damning to kronk) and knows that at this point, it is her job to save Casey's life and not try to prove her innocence because she knows that will not happen. Win the case at all costs...even if she gets life in prison, to AL, that is a win..

 

[Tuffy]

I'm listening to the WFTV audio part 1 of Andrea Lyon. So I'm thinking that her job will be to convince the DP qualified jury that Casey won't be a threat to others in prison, otherwise a jury will go for the DP rather than LWOP (assuming that Casey is convicted of 1st degree murder.)

As to AL's catty comments about women prosecutors' appearances, it's the pot calling the kettle....

I didn't listen yet but...

AL had the nerve to comment about someone's appearance!?

 

[jandkmom]

I was listening to AL speak at the conference and she refers to a client that killed his mother, father, and aunt and nearly killed his sister, but she survived and went on Oprah, and AL says "who survived to go on the Oprah show as if I didn't have enough GD problems". Where is this woman's conscience? She didn't sound sympathetic towards the true victims at all.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I know there are good defense atty's out there, but it seems to me that the ones after the spot light often display the least amount of character. Doing your "job" is one thing, but all of this other classless behavior is another. I believe their chances to impress a jury would increase if they could only act like dignified people in representing their client (and in the public domain). I can't think of another defense attorney, in history, that has said more vile and upsetting things about innocent people. If their demeanor doesn't change before trial (and change BIG) THEY are the ones that will help in securing the ultimate sentence for their client.

In another thought, maybe they should just stay exactly the way they are...and we will see how impressed a FL jury will be with their "charm".

 

[scorpion1110]

What good is it to be good at what you do if what you do is no good?
Getting scumbags life in prison rather than the death that they so rightly deserve is nothing to be proud of-what kind of achievement is that? Thanks to her, 30 folks are a burden on the system when they should, by the severity of their crimes, have been condemned. Congratulations Andrea, you are the best salvation out there. Must be a great honor.

YES, YES, her mother is probably soooo proud......