Angelina Jolie

  • #821
Becba said:
Take a child in a classroom for instance. It will get more attention in a smaller class. You cannot tell me a child will not get more loving without another one coming in , in say 4 or 5 months.
Angelina is not all that. She wants to do the right thing but you do not speculate on adoption as soon as giving birth.
Someone has to say it. You don't give birth and think "bingo" I want to adopt another.
There was an article about a photographer arrested trying to take pics of Maddox in daycare. They just got back to the states. Maddox is in daycare already.
WTF? These kids should be in loving care and not in day care or being born while contemplating adoption. She and he have enough money to fend the kids out, do they care enough to give real love?
oh come on?? He pply wants to go to daycare..my nephews went even tho their mom was at home-they loved it and you could not keep them home-they have alot of things they do-and it could be half days..if he didnt want to go he could have a home nanny if it were about that..it isnt- I cant believe how poeple think about others choices..her kids are far from deprived and privileged in all ways including the love they get-they are like normal children-parents are not there every second nor do they want them there every second -especially the loved ones-they are not afraid to be away from their parents for short periods of time..he isnt sugar-he is a kid wanting to play with other kids- i really doubt he has friends where he lives- a big gated place..the school is something he wants to do..

They want 6 kids and they are adopting the next one - she wont be pregnant with all its associations..she is 34 I think - not 100..brad is there to help as he should be..the older ones get more independant..and we are not talking about 12 kids..she isnt thinking she wants to help-she is thinking that she wants to have 6 kids and now-not in some spaced way..a classroom of 6 is still small..and it also has 2 parents in it..not one teacher who isnt the parent..be fair at least.
 
  • #822
Becba said:
Take a child in a classroom for instance. It will get more attention in a smaller class. You cannot tell me a child will not get more loving without another one coming in , in say 4 or 5 months.
Angelina is not all that. She wants to do the right thing but you do not speculate on adoption as soon as giving birth.
Someone has to say it. You don't give birth and think "bingo" I want to adopt another.
There was an article about a photographer arrested trying to take pics of Maddox in daycare. They just got back to the states. Maddox is in daycare already.
WTF? These kids should be in loving care and not in day care or being born while contemplating adoption. She and he have enough money to fend the kids out, do they care enough to give real love?
What does children in a classroom have to do with Angelina adopting another child? I am not getting your comparison?

Who said she was adopting in 4 or 5 months? She said the next one they would like to adopt, they would like 6 children, she did not give a time frame.

Angelina is not all that??? What does that mean???? and what does that have to do with her adopting children??? That makes no sense.

Why can't she speculate on adopting as soon as she gives birth??? Is there a law that says she can't???? Why can't she give birth and then think "Bingo" I want another one??? Who says you can't???

What is wrong with Maddox being in daycare??? millions of 4 yr olds are in day care it is not an anomaly. What does them just being back in the States have to do with it?? That is the perfect time to put him in day care get him in a normal routine.
Your last statements make absolutely no sense, The pictures of both Brad and Anjelina with their children speak of love. And the picture of Brad with his daughter speaks volumes he loves his daughter. All chidren should be lucky to have that kind of love, Anjelina's love for her children is very real she shows it when she speaks about them. She shows great love for refugee children how you can even question that and not see the presence of someones real love for children all I can say is WOW.
 
  • #823
Was it "daycare" or "preschool"? Maddox is old enough for preschool and probably would like it; but I agree it's a little soon to enroll - they just got back from Africa. Since it's the middle of the summer, it may well be "daycare", tho' I'm sure it's a "nice" one there, LOL.

I was just really leaning toward Angelina and admiring what they're doing, and all of a sudden lately I think she's in danger of being overexposed. Kind of like Tom Cruise, only her causes are MUCH better. Too much of a good thing.

She said she was going to adopt again right after having the baby, (a little strange IMO), did the interview with Anderson, fine, but now yesterday I see her on the front of USA today. Nicole Kidman is also a UNICEF Ambassador and quietly does her work. She's also adopted children and I imagine takes good care of them. But she doesn't advertise it so much.

I'm sure the men love seeing Angelina everywhere, and Tom Cruise too (hehe), but I think you lose the interest once you become overexposed.
 
  • #824
Marthatex said:
Was it "daycare" or "preschool"? Maddox is old enough for preschool and probably would like it; but I agree it's a little soon to enroll - they just got back from Africa. Since it's the middle of the summer, it may well be "daycare", tho' I'm sure it's a "nice" one there, LOL.

I was just really leaning toward Angelina and admiring what they're doing, and all of a sudden lately I think she's in danger of being overexposed. Kind of like Tom Cruise, only her causes are MUCH better. Too much of a good thing.

She said she was going to adopt again right after having the baby, (a little strange IMO), did the interview with Anderson, fine, but now yesterday I see her on the front of USA today. Nicole Kidman is also a UNICEF Ambassador and quietly does her work. She's also adopted children and I imagine takes good care of them. But she doesn't advertise it so much.

I'm sure the men love seeing Angelina everywhere, and Tom Cruise too (hehe), but I think you lose the interest once you become overexposed.
daycare is fun..its not toture..kids like it when they are not neglected at home. He has been at this day care before-its not new. AJ has been photographed picking him up last year when she was first pregnant.and you can be sure its not a day care for poverty stricken kids..its likely upscale and private.
If she is over exposed it is in part the media who over exposes her..she did one interview and now its on over and over again.
Anyone truly interested in helping wont back away cuz she is over exposed.
She is over exposed on channels like CNN..and entertaiment channels..I dont see her on most regular channels.
She might be over exposed to those of us who watch those channels..I have CNN on alot and I flipped the channel cuz I didnt like the same interview on over and over again..it bores me. But I separate that from appreciating the message the first time it aired..I was bored with it a little cuz it dragged on and on -with lots of repetition..but again I appreciate the main message.
Nicole Kidman isnt a media darling..she is hunted by them but not to the same excess AJ is and that is why she uses the media to promote her cause..they are always around - so drag them to africa is her strategy.
 
  • #825
Marthatex said:
Was it "daycare" or "preschool"? Maddox is old enough for preschool and probably would like it; but I agree it's a little soon to enroll - they just got back from Africa. Since it's the middle of the summer, it may well be "daycare", tho' I'm sure it's a "nice" one there, LOL.

I was just really leaning toward Angelina and admiring what they're doing, and all of a sudden lately I think she's in danger of being overexposed. Kind of like Tom Cruise, only her causes are MUCH better. Too much of a good thing.

She said she was going to adopt again right after having the baby, (a little strange IMO), did the interview with Anderson, fine, but now yesterday I see her on the front of USA today. Nicole Kidman is also a UNICEF Ambassador and quietly does her work. She's also adopted children and I imagine takes good care of them. But she doesn't advertise it so much.

I'm sure the men love seeing Angelina everywhere, and Tom Cruise too (hehe), but I think you lose the interest once you become overexposed.
The reason she was on Anderson Cooper AND is on The cover of USA today right now is because this is....... "Refugee Awareness Month"...... AND she is The USA Ambassador, she is doing her job. HENCE the reason for the advertising she is supposed to be advertising Refugees This Month.
 
  • #826
Becba said:
Take a child in a classroom for instance. It will get more attention in a smaller class. You cannot tell me a child will not get more loving without another one coming in , in say 4 or 5 months.
Angelina is not all that. She wants to do the right thing but you do not speculate on adoption as soon as giving birth.
Someone has to say it. You don't give birth and think "bingo" I want to adopt another.
There was an article about a photographer arrested trying to take pics of Maddox in daycare. They just got back to the states. Maddox is in daycare already.
WTF? These kids should be in loving care and not in day care or being born while contemplating adoption. She and he have enough money to fend the kids out, do they care enough to give real love?


By your reasoning a mother would not be able to give proper love and attention to twins or triplets as one is only capable of loving and caring for one child at a time. Maddox is four and attends Pre-School like millions of four year olds across the Country. My kids (all five five of them) attended pre-school at four years old. I considered it a vital tool in socalizing my children with other children their age and preparing them for the academic and structural setting of the school environment they would be entering at five years old. I never considered it as fending my kids out on someone else. You dont find it important for a four year old to learn to interact with peers and become familiar with school setting prior to starting kindergarten?
 
  • #827
Well, it's a little much that People introduces her this week with the headlines, WORKING MOTHER. Yeah, she's got a great job and helpful to others, but come on don't tell me she doesn't have an enterage of people helping her with the "Mother" part. She's got the best of all worlds.

And as the adoption, they announced "they are looking at countries". Well, how about this country? I'm sure there are many here in need of parents.

Just my opinion.
 
  • #828
Marthatex said:
Well, it's a little much that People introduces her this week with the headlines, WORKING MOTHER. Yeah, she's got a great job and helpful to others, but come on don't tell me she doesn't have an enterage of people helping her with the "Mother" part. She's got the best of all worlds.

And as the adoption, they announced "they are looking at countries". Well, how about this country? I'm sure there are many here in need of parents.

Just my opinion.

And She has said this herself, she considers herself very lucky. What is it that bothers you about her being a mother? She does have the right to be one. Or you don't think she does?

Ah!! I think since they are the ones adopting and going to be rasing these chidren they have the right to decide just which Country they would like them to come from... It is none of anyones business which country that is and certainly not to be judged by anyone one. Children are children, or maybe you think refugee children who live in orphanages with no hopes of ever living a normal life should not have a chance? It makes no differemce what Country they come from, refugee children like the ones Angeline adopts will die by the time they reach their teens usually. Apparently she sees the need there, she is only one person she cannot save the whole world so sue her!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  • #829
TisHerself said:
And She has said this herself, she considers herself very lucky. What is it that bothers you about her being a mother? She does have the right to be one. Or you don't think she does?

Ah!! I think since they are the ones adopting and going to be rasing these chidren they have the right to decide just which Country they would like them to come from... It is none of anyones business which country that is and certainly not to be judged by anyone one. Children are children, or maybe you think refugee children who live in orphanages with no hopes of ever living a normal life should not have a chance? It makes no differemce what Country they come from, refugee children like the ones Angeline adopts will die by the time they reach their teens usually. Apparently she sees the need there, she is only one person she cannot save the whole world so sue her!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pardon Moui for my stating of my opinions. I stated my posts very clearly, and I didn't insinuate anything judgmental about your opinions and I would appreciate it very much if you would not judge me.

We're gossiping about hollywood stars, for heavens sakes - this is really not even important. Why not loosen up?

I think it's great that she's a mother, and never said anything otherwise. Read my posts again, thank you very much .

By the way, really cute article about a Plastic Surgeon in People Mag this week; the one who fixed Ashlee Simpson's nose. Also a few more Angelina articles. People's really good this week.
 
  • #830
Marthatex said:
Pardon Moui for my stating of my opinions. I stated my posts very clearly, and I didn't insinuate anything judgmental about your opinions and I would appreciate it very much if you would not judge me.

We're gossiping about hollywood stars, for heavens sakes - this is really not even important. Why not loosen up?

I think it's great that she's a mother, and never said anything otherwise. Read my posts again, thank you very much .

By the way, really cute article about a Plastic Surgeon in People Mag this week; the one who fixed Ashlee Simpson's nose. Also a few more Angelina articles. People's really good this week.
LOL what's the matter, it's Ok for you To throw stones at her because they portrayed her as a Working Mother, You even Capitalized it, but I can't post my opinion back, then I am being too judgemental about your opinion. Nice try!!!! LMAO If you don't want what you have posted to be discussed then don't post it.
 
  • #831
TisHerself said:
LOL what's the matter, it's Ok for you To throw stones at her because they portrayed her as a Working Mother, You even Capitalized it, but I can't post my opinion back, then I am being too judgemental about your opinion. Nice try!!!! LMAO If you don't want what you have posted to be discussed then don't post it.

I hardly "threw stones" at her, but yes, we are supposed to compliment, criticize, gripe, be jealous, make sarcastic remarks, poke fun at, give opinions on these asolutely dazzling and sometimes OUTRAGEOUS celebrities.

It's fun, at least it's supposed to be fun. I enjoyed it up until now. If I'm doing something that's not right, and hurting poor Angelina, please let one of the moderators know I I'll be glad to take her advice. ;)
 
  • #832
TisHerself said:
And She has said this herself, she considers herself very lucky. What is it that bothers you about her being a mother? She does have the right to be one. Or you don't think she does?

Ah!! I think since they are the ones adopting and going to be rasing these chidren they have the right to decide just which Country they would like them to come from... It is none of anyones business which country that is and certainly not to be judged by anyone one. Children are children, or maybe you think refugee children who live in orphanages with no hopes of ever living a normal life should not have a chance? It makes no differemce what Country they come from, refugee children like the ones Angeline adopts will die by the time they reach their teens usually. Apparently she sees the need there, she is only one person she cannot save the whole world so sue her!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree. There are plenty of children here that need adopting, but when you look at statistics and quality of life, the children here do have it better than in the countries Angelina ans Brad are adopting from. I watched her interview today and the statistics for developing countries are staggering. 1 in 4 children in developing countries die before their 5th birthday. We have several children on our block and the realization that if we were in another country 2 of the 8 wouldn't be here. Angelina stated that where she got Maddox from, most of the kids end up leaving the orphanage and get "pimped out" or become street kids and Zahara was near death with samonella poisoning and suspected of having AIDS. Angelina and Brad were given the option of taking an additional girl when they received Zahara who was deathly ill and Angelina says that she thinks of that little girl a lot. Several of the children that came in with Zahara died already.

If I had the resources that Angelina and Brad have, I would love to be adopting tons o' kids too. Some from here and some from all over.

I loved the interview. It gave me more insight to her as a person and she's not as weird as I thought she was - even those I still liked her for all her weirdness.
 
  • #833
Marthatex said:
I hardly "threw stones" at her, but yes, we are supposed to compliment, criticize, gripe, be jealous, make sarcastic remarks, poke fun at, give opinions on these asolutely dazzling and sometimes OUTRAGEOUS celebrities.

It's fun, at least it's supposed to be fun. I enjoyed it up until now. If I'm doing something that's not right, and hurting poor Angelina, please let one of the moderators know I I'll be glad to take her advice. ;)


How about if you just give it a rest now?
 
  • #834
  • #835
TisHerself said:
Why can't she speculate on adopting as soon as she gives birth??? Is there a law that says she can't???? Why can't she give birth and then think "Bingo" I want another one??? Who says you can't???
I did it. As soon as I was just about recovered, I was trying for another. I made the decision WHILE PREGNANT to have another one right away. I wanted them close in age, and I knew I only wanted 2. I had my mind made up.:angel:
 
  • #836
tybee204 said:
By your reasoning a mother would not be able to give proper love and attention to twins or triplets as one is only capable of loving and caring for one child at a time. Maddox is four and attends Pre-School like millions of four year olds across the Country. My kids (all five five of them) attended pre-school at four years old. I considered it a vital tool in socalizing my children with other children their age and preparing them for the academic and structural setting of the school environment they would be entering at five years old. I never considered it as fending my kids out on someone else. You dont find it important for a four year old to learn to interact with peers and become familiar with school setting prior to starting kindergarten?
I did precisely the same thing when both of my boys were 4. I wanted them prepared for "real" school. Preschool was a big blessing for them because for the most part, they were 'stay at home' kids without a whole lot of socialization. We did playgroups and things like that, but preschool really got them ready for kindergarten, and I was grateful our school district offered it.
 
  • #837
2luvmy said:
I agree. There are plenty of children here that need adopting, but when you look at statistics and quality of life, the children here do have it better than in the countries Angelina ans Brad are adopting from. I watched her interview today and the statistics for developing countries are staggering. 1 in 4 children in developing countries die before their 5th birthday. We have several children on our block and the realization that if we were in another country 2 of the 8 wouldn't be here. Angelina stated that where she got Maddox from, most of the kids end up leaving the orphanage and get "pimped out" or become street kids and Zahara was near death with samonella poisoning and suspected of having AIDS. Angelina and Brad were given the option of taking an additional girl when they received Zahara who was deathly ill and Angelina says that she thinks of that little girl a lot. Several of the children that came in with Zahara died already.

If I had the resources that Angelina and Brad have, I would love to be adopting tons o' kids too. Some from here and some from all over.

I loved the interview. It gave me more insight to her as a person and she's not as weird as I thought she was - even those I still liked her for all her weirdness.

I was once in India several years ago which is not even anywhere near the level of poverty that Angelina has encountered. But the throw away children there that you see just sleeping on the streets, begging, and I am speaking of children as young as 4 and 5 yrs old it is so devastating. They as they get older resort to drugs and prostitution just to survive. Yes there is a need in this country but nothing like the need in others.
 
  • #838
Marthatex said:
Well, it's a little much that People introduces her this week with the headlines, WORKING MOTHER. Yeah, she's got a great job and helpful to others, but come on don't tell me she doesn't have an enterage of people helping her with the "Mother" part. She's got the best of all worlds.

And as the adoption, they announced "they are looking at countries". Well, how about this country? I'm sure there are many here in need of parents.

Just my opinion.

Most WORKING MOTHER'S have help. We wouldn't be able to do it otherwise. Doesn't mean we don't miss our children while we are working, and yes, some have more help than others. Wish I had some more help, but that wouldn't prevent me from spending every available second I am not working with my child. Which it looks like Angelina does, plus she probably gets to spend more time with her children than I do, because she can have her help travel with her. Oh, the luxury!
 
  • #839
Here is what I believe should decide this issue about her adopting more children..I bet if you ask any of her adopted children where they would rather be..where they were adopted from or the children AJ and Pitt..they would happily tell you they prefer their lives with their adoptive parents..I also hunch if any of us went to the 3rd world countries and saw the reality of it all, we would conclude that they are better off here than there.
The idea that AJ would adopt children from here is a moot point..anyone from here can adopt from here..and that is not the case with 3rd world children-they do not get adopted-they die..they have a great need than any child here in north america..why would she adopt babies from here when babies ot adopt are in demand?
Why would she wait 2 or 3 years to adopt here vs. saving 4 or 5 childrens lives over a 4 - 6 year period..She has her son who is 4..and she wont likely have 6 children for a year or more..
The impact on a child being rescued from a 3rd world country is huge..and even educating a child there to grade 3 or 4 standards is huge..
Even deprived children here-even aids children etc are educated. Or have the right to it- yes there are cases where parents lock them in cages but thats not the norm-most children here eat..maybe not the way it should be-but more die in 3rd world countries from hunger and disease than here in north america.
To be born in North America is privileged- I bet if you ask any orphan over there if they would rather have a mom with 6 kids or stay where they are-they will tell u they would never want to stay there. Thats the test-not what we think or how we judge the situation.
In fact Gloria Steinam said that if children wrote more and adults wrote less, adoption would be saught after.
Any child adopted to the jolie-pitt family will be far better off than not being adopted at all..and I also believe they will be more than loved and attended to.
Their own daughter will grow up with lots of siblings..she wont be neglected?
Children of privilege often consider ordinary expereinces such as daycare exciting..and if we find out her children go to a private boarding school one day..that happens to lots of kids too..They are far better off adopted than not. AJ is doing good things..she is doing it -not talking about it. She gets my vote for the far reaching changes she is making in the world. Generations to come are impacted by even the smallest amount of education-treatment for disease etc.
I feel the same about oprah, bill gates, etc..these people use their influence to acquire funding for the betterment of the most deprived, neglected children in the world..I dont think they deserve to be doubted or discouraged or judged as anything other than angels of god.
 
  • #840
newtv said:
Here is what I believe should decide this issue about her adopting more children..I bet if you ask any of her adopted children where they would rather be..where they were adopted from or the children AJ and Pitt..they would happily tell you they prefer their lives with their adoptive parents..I also hunch if any of us went to the 3rd world countries and saw the reality of it all, we would conclude that they are better off here than there.
The idea that AJ would adopt children from here is a moot point..anyone from here can adopt from here..and that is not the case with 3rd world children-they do not get adopted-they die..they have a great need than any child here in north america..why would she adopt babies from here when babies ot adopt are in demand?
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what I find amazing, is that there could even BE a downside to these people adopting these cast aside children. What anyone thinks of them "personally" is pretty irrelevent IMO. they are literally saving lives and the fact that that is debatable is tough for me to get my mind around. Even if i hated them as people, I would still have to applaud them for what they are doing with their fame and fortune.
The funny thing is, even if they adopted one child a month for a year, and had a staff to care for them, these kids would still be 1000% better off than the worlds they have come from. I would not feel the same if they gave birth to one child a year. I would feel completely different.

But what these 2 are doing is just another concept entirely and I think they are so admirable. I really don't care about either one of them as actors, it is these activities that have me paying attention to them at this point.

They aren't using this publicity to further their careers, IMO, but rather using their careers to further these causes.
 

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