Angelina Jolie

[kato]

Boy, oh, boy! I better stop drolling over Matthew McConahay now or I might be cheating...yeah right, only when I'm dead will I stop looking or thinking "mmm, yummy!" when I see fine specimen of the male species worthy of my lust.

I consider myself extremely faithfull to my husband. Never would cheat on him. I am tested every day on that. I work with soldiers and am the only girl in the whole armory and I'm quite cute (not to blow my own horn), but my point is, I'm human! I'm gonna look, maybe even lust, but not act. :hand:
Just because you're on a diet doesn't mean you can't read the MENu!
I think it's only healthy...but then again, I'm way more like Angie than Jen. I could never be that high maintenance...

Touche'.

 

[calus_3]

When you are married whether you sleep with the other person you are attracted to or not doesn't matter. Infidelity isn't just physical; thinking about it or lusting after someone other than your spouse is the same. IMO

I disagree, it is entirely physical. Most men end up cheating with someone uglier or heavier than their wives. Haven't figured that one out yet.

I am going to go out on a limb here and try to explain why I think various things happen in life that make us go "Why did he or she do that?".

I think it is an addiction to adrenaline. Don't hang up, just follow.

Remember the first time you got crazy with someone, that electric feeling in your stomach? That's adrenaline. The next time you get just a little less until you don't get that charge of adrenaline as much.

Ladies, remember the feeling you get when you find that perfect pair of shoes on sale while fighting the lady next to you to your size? That's adrenaline.

Why do men end up arrrested for child ? I think it is because they become used to the level of adrenaline say from looking at playboy magazine. Then it takes Hustler to give them that jolt. Then they stray further to get their charge.

Why do many rock climbers free climb at thousands of feet sometimes jumping completely free of the rock to their next hand hold? They started by repelling and got used to that charge. Then it was heights. Then it was no ropes. And so on.

Likewise, I always wonder why criminals escallate their crimes when they seem to really suck at being criminals and get caught. Crime is their adrenaline trigger of choice.

For me, I hunt Whitetail deer. I can tell you that when sitting 20 feet up in a stand, there is nothing like the charge I get from seeing a deer surprise me and step out in range. I only take what I can eat so I pass on most deer and just enjoy watching them. But then towards the end of the season if I haven't taken one, I barely feel anything when I see one. Then if I take one, I get that sudden rush of adrenaline and it is almost like a high. I can tell you that if I go prolonged periods of time without that rush, I get to Jonesin.

I think we as humans are addicted to adrenaline at some level. Your husband may never tire of the charge you give him just as some people never end up climbing at thousands of feet with no ropes. Other husbands may require a much higher level of adrenaline that is supplied by sleeping with other women.

We are not purely animalistic in our nature as love, emotions, feelings of duty, etc. come into play. But I firmly believe that we are all adrenaline junkies of some sort and to some level. I think that helps explain our sometimes unexplainable behavior....sort of the "I know this stove is hot and I will get burned if I touch it, but I can't help not touch it".

I think some people can control their addiction and some people can't. I mean lets face it....a man caught cheating loses his wife, kids, home, etc. so why would he do that? It isn't worth the risk, except for that uncontrollable addiction to adrenaline that he can no longer get at home.

That is my working theory anyway.

Cal

 

[calus_3]

BTW, I just love it when anything Matthew McConnahay [sic?] or Brad Pitt comes on TV. That's wife !

Cal

 

[Floh]

Not me! I think Angelina is a beautiful person. You can tell by the pictures of her taken on her goodwill tours that it absolutely fulfills her working with and helping those less fortunate than her. She just dazzles in the company of those children. They have no clue how famous she is, nor do they care, I'm sure. All they know is she is using what she has to make a change in their lives. She has a drive and is trying to make a difference in the world. No wonder Brad was so drawn to her! A woman that has confidence, a sense of self and a purpose is so much more attractive than a woman who smokes two packs o' cigs a day, dances on top of bars and worries only about which club, spa or fashion show she'll hit next.
As for Angelina's past...please, we all have one! Geesh, Lord knows I did some silly things...we all did! But who cares? Should we all have to live down our past folleys forever? Obviously, being a mom changed her like it does so many of us. Besides, with enough courage, you don't need a reputation! Angie goes for it...that is why she's got it. Jen should have been a little less self centered and taken care of her man a little more. You reap what you sow. Anything left neglected will not flourish & truly happy men don't stray! Brad couldn't help himself...who could? I think other women are just scorned because they can relate more to Jen than Angie...sad as that is.

Not that I agree with infidelity, and I am sorry Jen was so hurt, I know exactly what that feels like, but we really don't know what happened, do we? Maybe Brad did wait until he & Jen were split before actually pursuing a real relationship with Angie. Maybe he didn't technically cheat. No one knows but the three (or two) of them. I do know that there comes a point in most everyone's life when you just can't deny yourself what you need or want any longer. Why should Brad suffer in an unfulfilling marriage just because the public wants he & Jen together? He's a movie star, not a martyr.
Have ya ever fallen head over heels for someone no matter how hard you tried not to? And if that feeling is reciprocated, it is nearly impossible to maintain control of what is right and what is wrong. Why should we and who truly judges right from wrong for us anyway? Be happy! Ya only get one go 'round! I think everything happens for a reason. It usually hurts the other people involved but eventually they pick up, move on and know theirselves better as a person from it. It should be done with honor but human nature doesn't always relate to that when we have stars in our eyes. That's life. We all live and learn.
True, deep, maddening, passionate love; it's what most of us long for. If they have it, which it looks to me like they do, then I say more power to them. I wish them the best.

I could go on & on about this because I get so sick of everyone bashing Angelina. She should not have to defend herself as a decent person. Let her actions for the lesser of the world speak for her. If we are judged as to who we are as a person by our relationship practices, then I think there's a whole lot of us falling short of saint. She didn't make Brad do anything he didn't want to do. Jen just didn't have what it took to keep him.

BTW, anyone who read what I posted about Lance and Sheryl on the other thread might think I'm a hypocrite, but to me, there is a big difference between a man who takes up with a good-time girl when he has three little children to consider and a man who just needs more purpose in his life and a partner who shares who he is and where he's heading.
jmo, though! :blowkiss:

:clap:

 

[calus_3]

Yeah and AJ didn't rape Brad....now my wife would but that's another story for another time.

Cal

 

[Floh]

OK I'm sorry let me reiterate
!! SLUTT!!! SLUTT!! Is that better?

No, frankly. no better at all.

just saying because you asked.

 

[TheShadow]

I do know that there comes a point in most everyone's life when you just can't deny yourself what you need or want any longer. Why should Brad suffer in an unfulfilling marriage just because the public wants he & Jen together? He's a movie star, not a martyr.
Have ya ever fallen head over heels for someone no matter how hard you tried not to? And if that feeling is reciprocated, it is nearly impossible to maintain control of what is right and what is wrong. Why should we and who truly judges right from wrong for us anyway? Be happy! Ya only get one go 'round! I think everything happens for a reason. It usually hurts the other people involved but eventually they pick up, move on and know theirselves better as a person from it. It should be done with honor but human nature doesn't always relate to that when we have stars in our eyes. That's life. We all live and learn.

WOW! I think I just read the technical definition of sefishness. ME,ME,ME! What I want is most important, right? Who cares if other people get hurt, they'll get over it.

 

[ember]

WOW! I think I just read the technical definition of sefishness. ME,ME,ME! What I want is most important, right? Who cares if other people get hurt, they'll get over it.

Ummm, wasn't that exactly what Jen was doing by putting her career before the needs of her husband?
Action dictates reaction.
He got over it alright!

No one should live unhappily. The only person's needs you should always put before your own, imo, are your children's. Your partner should share your needs. If that's not working...asta la vista, baby!
Life's too damned short to be miserable.

 

[vanillasky]

I disagree, it is entirely physical.

It's not always physical.

 

[TheShadow]

We don't have any idea of what Jennifer was doing. We aren't privvy to what really happened in their marriage.

I am certainly glad I'm not your spouse. If I don't meet your needs, and pronto, hasta la vista! What about your spouse's needs? What about concern for their feelings? Why should they worry about what you feel and want, if you don't worry about them? Marriage is about GIVE and take, and, oh yeah, commitment. Let's not forget commitment.

I think you made my point.

 

[calus_3]

It's not always physical.

I think the root....the adrenaline addiction....is the root physical cause.

Someone may get their adrenaline fix via just being emotionally attached to someone without sex. Someone may required fettish type stuff to get their fix. So while the person may be cheating, it may be the emotion connection with that person rather than the physical part that gives them the thrill.

It is like a roller coaster.....they have to be bigger and faster or else they don't satisfy any longer.

If only I were a scientist and could prove this addiction thing, I would write a book and go on the Oprah show!

Cal

 

[TheShadow]

Calus, I think you're right about the adrenaline thing. Forbidden fruit always tastes better.

 

[ember]

We don't have any idea of what Jennifer was doing. We aren't privvy to what really happened in their marriage.

I am certainly glad I'm not your spouse. If I don't meet your needs, and pronto, hasta la vista! What about your spouse's needs? What about concern for their feelings? Why should they worry about what you feel and want, if you don't worry about them? Marriage is about GIVE and take, and, oh yeah, commitment. Let's not forget commitment.

I think you made my point.

And your point would be????

It's Ok to speculate on what Brad did wrong, but not Jen because we're not "privvy" all of the sudden to what she did wrong but we are so "privvy" to what he did wrong? :croc:

OR

That I am a horribly selfish being because I'm not afraid to find my own happiness? Sorry, but I'm not the "Co-dependent" type. I don't need someone else to fulfill me or make me happy. I meet my own needs. I think you'd find that my spouse is certainly glad to be my spouse because he can be who he is and I love him for that. He hunts, I don't eat meat. We are total opposites in some ways, totally alike in others. So my situation does not even apply in the context you used it in. We are discussing them, not me. You'd do well to remember that. Like I said previously, your spouse needs to share your needs, part of that is respecting who you are as a person. Brad needed children, obviously, to make him content. Jen floundered on that issue.

 

[Beffie]

After reading all the posts. I will say I am glad I am not married to an actor who has to make out with beautiful woman. I do not think Brad meant to fall for Angelina, but it happened. Maybe when they had to shoot a kissing scene they felt something, like nothing they ever felt before. Who knows. Maybe it was so deep there was nothing they could do to deny it. I like to think Brad is a decent guy, do I think he could of handled thing differently, yeah, probably. How? I do not know. His problem was he was married to a person the world adored. Alot of people can relate to Jennifer Aniston, more than they can relate to Angelina Jolie.

I just hope things work out for the kids sake.

 

[michelle]

After reading all the posts. I will say I am glad I am not married to an actor who has to make out with beautiful woman. I do not think Brad meant to fall for Angelina, but it happened. Maybe when they had to shoot a kissing scene they felt something, like nothing they ever felt before. Who knows. Maybe it was so deep there was nothing they could do to deny it. I like to think Brad is a decent guy, do I think he could of handled thing differently, yeah, probably. How? I do not know. His problem was he was married to a person the world adored. Alot of people can relate to Jennifer Aniston, more than they can relate to Angelina Jolie.

I just hope things work out for the kids sake.

:clap: well put....

 

[calus_3]

Let me ask you married ladies a question. There seems to be a lot of hatred for BP and/or AJ but......

Haven't you ever met someone other than your spouse that you felt an instant connection with? Someone that you adore so much and desperately want to just ravage? Not that you necessarily would but the thought goes through your mind that "if only I wasn't married, I would jump your bones?". Or you think "why couldn't I have met this person first?".

I am happily married and have never strayed. But I can tell you that there is one person that has such a hold on me and such an emotional/sex appeal that if she said "hey, let's go" I don't think I could say no. It isn't all physical, in fact, I would say it is more of an emotional connection more than physical. There are a lot of women with better bodies. But everything about her is amazing. There have been so many times that I will be talking to her and looking her in the eyes and it is all I can do not to grab her up and kiss her. It is really torture to the point that I try to avoid her so that she won't see it on my face. There is no danger of reciprocation so it isn't a real problem but it is painful to be around this woman. Isn't there someone like that in your life?

Don't worry, I won't be embarrased if you admit that it is me.

Maybe that is what is at play here, an instant connection? Maybe their marriage was over long before AJ showed up. I dunno. I saw an interview with JA long before they broke up--to the tune of a year or better--and Brad was nowhere to be found. Rumors were already swirling then.

Cal

 

[kato]

Let me ask you married ladies a question. There seems to be a lot of hatred for BP and/or AJ but......

Haven't you ever met someone other than your spouse that you felt an instant connection with? Someone that you adore so much and desperately want to just ravage? Not that you necessarily would but the thought goes through your mind that "if only I wasn't married, I would jump your bones?". Or you think "why couldn't I have met this person first?".

I am happily married and have never strayed. But I can tell you that there is one person that has such a hold on me and such an emotional/sex appeal that if she said "hey, let's go" I don't think I could say no. It isn't all physical, in fact, I would say it is more of an emotional connection more than physical. There are a lot of women with better bodies. But everything about her is amazing. There have been so many times that I will be talking to her and looking her in the eyes and it is all I can do not to grab her up and kiss her. It is really torture to the point that I try to avoid her so that she won't see it on my face. There is no danger of reciprocation so it isn't a real problem but it is painful to be around this woman. Isn't there someone like that in your life?

Don't worry, I won't be embarrased if you admit that it is me.

Maybe that is what is at play here, an instant connection? Maybe their marriage was over long before AJ showed up. I dunno. I saw an interview with JA long before they broke up--to the tune of a year or better--and Brad was nowhere to be found. Rumors were already swirling then.

Cal

I have a few men celebs who I think are handsome or what-not but they don't leave me foaming from the mouth. LOL

I have a friend who feels the same way about someone. She's not married; he is. It brings her such misery. If someone feels like that they need to not be around that person unless they simply have to like work, etc.. Just remove ones self from the temptation and situation.

 

[Cupcake]

So the lesson here for all women is that if you want to keep your man and if you want to keep your man happy, be more like we perceive AJ and less like JA.

Screw that, buddy!

 

[Cupcake]

Let me ask you married ladies a question. There seems to be a lot of hatred for BP and/or AJ but......

Haven't you ever met someone other than your spouse that you felt an instant connection with? Someone that you adore so much and desperately want to just ravage? Not that you necessarily would but the thought goes through your mind that "if only I wasn't married, I would jump your bones?". Or you think "why couldn't I have met this person first?".

I am happily married and have never strayed. But I can tell you that there is one person that has such a hold on me and such an emotional/sex appeal that if she said "hey, let's go" I don't think I could say no. It isn't all physical, in fact, I would say it is more of an emotional connection more than physical. There are a lot of women with better bodies. But everything about her is amazing. There have been so many times that I will be talking to her and looking her in the eyes and it is all I can do not to grab her up and kiss her. It is really torture to the point that I try to avoid her so that she won't see it on my face. There is no danger of reciprocation so it isn't a real problem but it is painful to be around this woman. Isn't there someone like that in your life?

Don't worry, I won't be embarrased if you admit that it is me.

Maybe that is what is at play here, an instant connection? Maybe their marriage was over long before AJ showed up. I dunno. I saw an interview with JA long before they broke up--to the tune of a year or better--and Brad was nowhere to be found. Rumors were already swirling then.

Cal

Yes, I do. And I knew this man long before I met my husband; however, he was not the right man for me because he didn't want children and I believe, he had a thing about commitment. And I do still keep in touch with him because we are friends, but I don't seek him out for the thrill of it. I love my husband and the life we have, and our children, more than a fling with a guy I have a serious sexual AND intellectual attraction to that I know will never go anywhere.

 

[ember]

Let me ask you married ladies a question. There seems to be a lot of hatred for BP and/or AJ but......


Haven't you ever met someone other than your spouse that you felt an instant connection with? Someone that you adore so much and desperately want to just ravage? Not that you necessarily would but the thought goes through your mind that "if only I wasn't married, I would jump your bones?". Or you think "why couldn't I have met this person first?".

I am happily married and have never strayed. But I can tell you that there is one person that has such a hold on me and such an emotional/sex appeal that if she said "hey, let's go" I don't think I could say no. It isn't all physical, in fact, I would say it is more of an emotional connection more than physical. There are a lot of women with better bodies. But everything about her is amazing. There have been so many times that I will be talking to her and looking her in the eyes and it is all I can do not to grab her up and kiss her. It is really torture to the point that I try to avoid her so that she won't see it on my face. There is no danger of reciprocation so it isn't a real problem but it is painful to be around this woman. Isn't there someone like that in your life?

Don't worry, I won't be embarrased if you admit that it is me.

Maybe that is what is at play here, an instant connection? Maybe their marriage was over long before AJ showed up. I dunno. I saw an interview with JA long before they broke up--to the tune of a year or better--and Brad was nowhere to be found. Rumors were already swirling then.

Cal

Ahh, yes I have. It is a wonderful feeling, an adrenaline rush as you say, it makes you feel alive all over but oh! it is so bitter sweet!
The last time I had it really, really bad, I ended up marrying him and we're still married, very happily! But neither of us were attached at the time, so no one got hurt, but it still took us 10 years to finally get together.

The other times, before him when I would find myself in that situation, I always resisted temptation. It was more fun just to flirt. I have found that having is not nearly as pleasing as wanting.