Anita Rose, 57, walking her dog, police investigating suspected murder, Brantham, Suffolk, 24th July 2024'

[Grouse]

I think it’s more that they identified RB but had no idea where he was.

They would’ve done lots of investigative work on his where abouts and as soon as they knew them they swooped in for the arrest earlier this week.

Yes I think it's fair to say they probably didn't know where he was, he was recalled to prison back in January for breaching licence.

I think it's unlikely they knew it was him when they issued the cctv images though, or there would also have been a "do not approach this man" warning. More likely as someone up thread said they had an "oh s***" realisation after. Hence the self referral.

At least they got him anyway, before another attack (assuming it is him of course).

 

[jackal67]

I think usually it means they fell short in their own standards, connected with police knowledge about the suspect/offender.

I don't think it necessarily means Anita's previous contact with Barclay, but it is a vague statement, I think it is likely to refer to their own dealings with him. He would have been in their system, he had history for this same type of attack, and it looks like they should've already had him off the streets but he was still at large.

IMO they hadn't identified him when they were putting out the CCTV appeals. Maybe the Crimewatch show generated a lead as to who he was and they had an 'oh sh**' moment, but if that is the case I think they should've put out an immediate appeal for sightings of him with warnings about his danger.

wasnt he wanted on recall to prison for breaking his licence condition ?

 

[slowpoke]

“Suffolk Police said it had also referred itself to the police watchdog, the Independent Office for Police Conduct, over previous contact with Barclay.”

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/202...der-of-mum-of-six-dog-walker-appears-in-court

Could the “previous contact” be referring to the decision to grant him early release from prison?

 

[Skigh]

“Suffolk Police said it had also referred itself to the police watchdog, the Independent Office for Police Conduct, over previous contact with Barclay.”

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/202...der-of-mum-of-six-dog-walker-appears-in-court

Could the “previous contact” be referring to the decision to grant him early release from prison?

I would think that decision would fall to the judiciary not the local police.

 

[slowpoke]

Why is it the media reports regarding Anita’s case have not brought up the accused’s prior attack on the 82-year-old man in 2015?

 

[Skigh]

Why is it the media reports regarding Anita’s case have not brought up the accused’s prior attack on the 82-year-old man in 2015?

I presume because it might prejudice his trial. The press are not permitted to publish information about a person charged .

 

[Smccat]

I presume because it might prejudice his trial. The press are not permitted to publish information about a person charged .

Happen the referral to the IOPC maybe a part of it too? Not massively sure more likely what Skigh said
Moo

 

[MollyHarps]

wasnt he wanted on recall to prison for breaking his licence condition ?

Do we know if he ever actually returned to Prison?

Some of these recalls could be for a mere couple of months so he could’ve returned in January and been out by July (especially with the state of UK prisons being over crowded at the minute lots of early releases)

 

[Grouse]

Do we know if he ever actually returned to Prison?

Some of these recalls could be for a mere couple of months so he could’ve returned in January and been out by July (especially with the state of UK prisons being over crowded at the minute lots of early releases)

I doubt it given he was also charged with being "unlawfully at large".

"Charges, read to the defendant by the court clerk, allege that on July 24 of this year he murdered Ms Rose, and that “also an associated matter, having been recalled to prison on June 1, 2022 and notified of the recall you failed without reasonable excuse to attend for recall and were unlawfully at large”."

Man in court accused of murdering woman out walking her dog

Being of no fixed address would potentially have been enough for a recall , one of the standard licence conditions is to
"reside permanently at an address approved by the supervising officer and obtain the prior permission of the supervising officer for any stay of one or more nights at a different address; "

Licence conditions and recall — determinate sentences | Prison Reform Trust

 

[Grouse]

I presume because it might prejudice his trial. The press are not permitted to publish information about a person charged .

And quite rightly so, but given it was published at the time and is so out there now I don't see how they'll be able to select a jury that isn't aware of it. If it comes to that, and he doesn't plead guilty before.

 

[Skigh]

I would imagine that's the reason it's not being published now in conjunction with this case, and quite rightly so, but given it was published at the time and is so out there now I don't see how they'll be able to select a jury that isn't aware of it. If it comes to that, and he doesn't plead guilty before.

It is amazing the number of people who do not follow the news,even when it is local.

 

[Grouse]

It is amazing the number of people who do not follow the news,even when it is local.

I guess it does require some googling or looking on forums like this to find it.

 

[Luwin]

Man pleads not guilty to murder of dog walker in Suffolk

Roy Barclay, 55, pleads not guilty after Anita Rose woman was attacked while walking near a river.

www.bbc.co.uk

Ms Rose was found unconscious in Brantham, near Ipswich, at about 06:25 BST on Wednesday, 24 July and she died at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge four days later.
Roy Barclay, 55, of no fixed address, was charged in October with murder.
He appeared via video link at Ipswich Crown Court where he entered his plea and a trial date was set for 27 May.

 

[Dotta]

"Man denies
murdering mother-of-six found battered and dying on secluded path
after early morning dog walk.



He was arrested after extensive inquiries by the police
and shortly after a Crimewatch appeal by Ms Rose's family.

Simon Spence KC, defending, said
that he denied being
the 'assailant' of Ms Rose."

Man denies murdering mother on secluded path during morning dog walk

Anita Rose, 57, was exercising her springer spaniel Bruce when she was attacked on a track near her home at Brantham, near Ipswich, Suffolk.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[slowpoke]

Will the prosecutors be able to bring up the accused’s prior conviction in Anita’s court case?

Refreshing our memory of his prior conviction, which feels oh-so-similar and so then would be relevant to her case:

Roy Barclay’s prior conviction, from 2015

He had attacked an elderly passer-by, by beating the man in the head so severely he needed extensive facial reconstruction.

I’m remembering it was reported Anita’s injuries were severe and to her head/face area, as well.

 

[StillDiggin]

Anita Rose’s missing pink jacket and phone case found court hears

A missing jacket and phone case belonging to a woman who was allegedly murdered while walking her dog are believed to have been found, a court has…

www.eadt.co.uk

 

[slowpoke]

The court was told the missing jacket and phone case had been found “in a camp in Brantham.”

What does that mean…does it mean a ‘camp’ like where homeless live?
At any rate, this is good news.

Missing items in Brantham dog walker murder case found

A court hears a missing jacket and phone case sought in the investigation have been discovered.

www.bbc.com