Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell - COD: "Heroin Poisoning"

[DexterMorgan]

Actually, AJ and her boyfriend weren't on the outs. And I would say that CF was a bit more than 'still carrying a torch' for her, which is why it was creepy and she didn't want to hang out with him.

Thanks. Long time no see.

 

[carpeverum]

So maybe the creepy texts did come from CF or what maybe her cousin thought were creepy. Someone mentioned on her before that perception is that if a guy you thought was hot texted you some weird things you wouldn't be as freaked out as you would if someone you weren't physically attracted to would.

That being said we know that CF enlisted in the military and went off to boot camp. Maybe he knew that AJ was coming home and that he was shortly leaving the next week and asked AJ if they wanted to hang out before he left for a very long time and maybe not even see her again. They seemed like they were friends for a long time. Maybe they (the family) blew those texts out of proportion and tried to set it up so police would look at him. Also AJ had 2 jackets that to me appear very similar. The Longwood softball jacket and her Norview HS jacket so maybe they could be easily interchanged or mistaken for.

I was never convinced that AJ was afraid of her ex-bf and never convinced that she received creepy text messages from him. I always tended to look at that information as invented by someone. Maybe she did receive creepy text messages, but I have always doubted that any were from CF. I think the "I'm scared"/creepy message thing was an invention for the advantage of someone distraught to...do something stupid to deflect/prolong the investigation--and to give him the time to compromise the investigation.

If he was acting in good faith and really believed someone "had her," then why threaten persons close to the family to never tell LE about his breaking and entering...? To the extent that their safety and well-being was threatened?

My thought is distraught family members can make bad decisions, but then...cover them up with threats to the safety of AJ's friends? I'm not so sure if I can reconcile that much.

 

[hey-Debbie]

I don't think the texts he sent were even 'creepy'. CF was her first boyfriend when they were younger. He still carried a torch for her. The reason she was 'nervous' about meeting up with him was because it was obvious he wanted to be more than friends. Thus it is 'dangerous' to meet up and hang out with a guy who likes you because you are agreeing to possibly allow it to happen. And she supposedly had a boyfriend. [ although I have my doubts about that still. It sounded like they were on the outs to me.]

I think Wes picked him as a patsy because he had shown interest in AJ. JMO

Yeah I'm in agreeance I don't think they were creepy either and from what I have seen CF also had a girlfriend so it could have just been a friendly, flirty get-together request he made or put out there to her. And I also agree with your last statement about AJ's boyfriend too.

 

[katydid23]

Actually, AJ and her boyfriend weren't on the outs. And I would say that CF was a bit more than 'still carrying a torch' for her, which is why it was creepy and she didn't want to hang out with him.

From reading her social media, it seems they were a bit strained. She complained about not seeing him very often. Or often enough.

As for her not wanting to hang out with CF, according to some of her texts, she was considering it. She did not say to him LEAVE ME ALONE. She did not block him. She replied in a flirty way.

 

[ThatGuyBear]

From reading her social media, it seems they were a bit strained. She complained about not seeing him very often. Or often enough.

As for her not wanting to hang out with CF, according to some of her texts, she was considering it. She did not say to him LEAVE ME ALONE. She did not block him. She replied in a flirty way.

Of course she wanted to see him more. She was away at college and he was here. He would drive up on weekends when he could and when she wasn't here, but it wasn't as often as it had been before school.

Also, she wouldn't tell CF to LEAVE ME ALONE. That wasn't who she was, she didn't want to hang out with him, but she didn't want to be mean to him either.

 

[carpeverum]

Hello, ThatGuyBear....Do you know if Wes even knew much about CF, or do you know why Wes went over to CF's home and broke in instead of knocking on the door and "weasling" his way in somehow? TIA.

 

[Empress Theodora]

I have heard differing reports on whether or not AJ was on full scholarship. Her Twitter account is where I heard she recently spoke about getting an unexpected increase in funds--and she asked her friends if they had, also.

I will need to review her Twitter account, but going by what many WS's have said in forums--it was actual cash she had in her possession and received prior to her disappearance.

Will update after finding specific info about it.

Typically a full scholarship for academics or athletics doesn't result in you getting cash; it goes directly toward your tuition and/or room and board bill. There is a maximum specific amount it covers, which may change according to school tuition changes, but the school doesn't give you the difference if you don't use it all. In my experience, at least.

Financial aid based on need may or may not be the same, and grants or outside scholarships are/can be different. I know lots of kids who got grants/loans based on financial need and got it in cash... the loans eventually had to be paid back, but the money was theirs to spend as they pleased and they spent it on whatever they wanted in the meantime (anything from tuition and books to alcohol and food.)

So I don't have an answer about AJ or how her school operates, but I'm just throwing in my two cents. If she had a full athletic or academic scholarship that wasn't need based I don't think she would be flush with cash just because of how funds are typically distributed in those cases. If it was need based, even in part, maybe she did have cash on hand. But if that was the case I still imagine she would have put it toward her education and may have still needed to borrow spending money for other uses because she was responsible with the use of her funds.

There I go thinking out loud, but AJ just seemed mature beyond her years, so I wouldn't be surprised if she set aside money for different purposes as needed. So I can see her asking for spending money even if she had some on hand, because she was using what she had from aid to cover the costs they were meant to cover. (Not to vilify her if she didn't – most kids aren't great with money, lol.)

Everything is just my opinion and informed by my own experiences.

 

[Happyshoes]

Actually, AJ and her boyfriend weren't on the outs. And I would say that CF was a bit more than 'still carrying a torch' for her, which is why it was creepy and she didn't want to hang out with him.

Why would CF even suggest getting together if he had a girlfriend and AJ had a boyfriend? Thanks for coming on, we are so heartbroken over this sweet girl. It's really sad that she couldn't live her life and do the world a lot of good, maybe have children, be a teacher/counselor or whatever she wanted to be. She seemed like a very giving girl. Sad tonight, looking at sailboats out in the marina, wondering if she ever got to do that? It's kind of nice to carry her around in my thoughts because it gives me some perspective and feelings of gratitude for what I do have and how I live.

 

[Empress Theodora]

ThatGuyBear, Thank you for the insight! She seems like such a sweet girl. I complained on SM about not seeing my boyfriend when I was away at college fairly often–long distance relationships are hard work in college! At the same time our relationship was strained a lot because of that. So katydid23, I totally see where that idea could have come from and I honestly had no idea what their status was from her SM alone.

 

[Happyshoes]

Hello, ThatGuyBear....Do you know if Wes even knew much about CF, or do you know why Wes went over to CF's home and broke in instead of knocking on the door and "weasling" his way in somehow? TIA.

Yeah, what was that really all about? And the debit card, too...

 

[DexterMorgan]

Why would CF even suggest getting together if he had a girlfriend and AJ had a boyfriend? Thanks for coming on, we are so heartbroken over this sweet girl. It's really sad that she couldn't live her life and do the world a lot of good, maybe have children, be a teacher/counselor or whatever she wanted to be. She seemed like a very giving girl. Sad tonight, looking at sailboats out in the marina, wondering if she ever got to do that? It's kind of nice to carry her around in my thoughts because it gives me some perspective and feelings of gratitude for what I do have and how I live.

He was going to the military. She was going to school. It's not like they would see that much of each other. Plus i dont think he had a car.

 

[katydid23]

There was nothing in the way that Wes handled the break in, that made it believable that he thought CF was the guilty party.

If my daughter was missing and I thought I knew who had her, I would break in to their house too, if LE was ignoring my claims. but IF I found her jacket, I would call 911. I would not leave it there and tell someone else to go in and find it too.

If Wes REALLY thought CF had AJ, he would have handled things very differently, imo. With much more urgency and directness. JMO

 

[carpeverum]

There was nothing in the way that Wes handled the break in, that made it believable that he thought CF was the guilty party.

If my daughter was missing and I thought I knew who had her, I would break in to their house too, if LE was ignoring my claims. but IF I found her jacket, I would call 911. I would not leave it there and tell someone else to go in and find it too.

If Wes REALLY thought CF had AJ, he would have handled things very differently, imo. With much more urgency and directness. JMO

My thoughts exactly, katydid23.

 

[StarrChance]

ThatGuyBear, if AJ didn want to hang out with CF do you know if she was worried about telling him (or afraid)?

 

[carpeverum]

Based on what CF likely knew via AJ, his own experience, and mutual friends they had? My thinking is that he had more reason to fear something or someone else than AJ ever had to fear him. My gut just tells me that CF served someone's purposes for something to happen to him. I will say that it seems he wasn't completely over AJ, but not to the extent of stalking or harassing her. JMO and etc.,...

 

[wendybtn]

I don't know much about drugs, but did the fatal dose necessarily have to be a large amount of heroin? Isn't an "average" or even a small amount of heroin just as toxic as a large amount in some cases? Just one example: a bad batch, where the heroin has been tainted by another toxic chemical.

Just re-thinking the terminology of the COD here and making the point that possibly the COD had little if anything to do with a drastic or large amount of heroin in her system.

If you want to make sure someone is dead, you would give them the largest dose you could get a hold of to give them. The perp is not sitting there with a prescription pad trying to determine the safe dose for her body weight. Whatever you've got, you will give.

 

[katydid23]

Of course she wanted to see him more. She was away at college and he was here. He would drive up on weekends when he could and when she wasn't here, but it wasn't as often as it had been before school.

Also, she wouldn't tell CF to LEAVE ME ALONE. That wasn't who she was, she didn't want to hang out with him, but she didn't want to be mean to him either.

But then it does not sound like she was AFRAID of CF. Because if she was she could have blocked him or told one of her many male friends to deal with it. But she did not do that. She continued to communicate because as you say, she didn't want to be mean. And if you are afraid of someone then being mean is not your biggest concern, imo.

I do not for one second, believe that CF had anything to do with her going missing. JMO

 

[carpeverum]

If you want to make sure someone is dead, you would give them the largest dose you could get a hold of to give them. The perp is not sitting there with a prescription pad trying to determine the safe dose for her body weight. Whatever you've got, you will give.

I understand that much, but MOD hasn't been stated yet if it's even known. I was simply trying to establish the point that even if it was an accidental OD (which I doubt), the amount of heroin used didn't necessarily need to be a lot. Slicing a poison with another material which is dangerous to the human body (even flour or baking powder) could also account for the "acute heroin poisoning" COD.

 

[carpeverum]

But then it does not sound like she was AFRAID of CF. Because if she was she could have blocked him or told one of her many male friends to deal with it. But she did not do that. She continued to communicate because as you say, she didn't want to be mean. And if you are afraid of someone then being mean is not your biggest concern, imo.

I do not for one second, believe that CF had anything to do with her going missing. JMO

Agree. When one is genuinely afraid of someone, their usual good nature can change drastically. Their habits, routine, mental outlook, concentration ability, mood, physical appearance and health, even their typical character can change. Often: they have little or no control over the changes they undergo--and feel powerless.

I think many more people would have known about her fear if it was true about CF--even if they weren't told it was CF she feared.

I think CF, again, served someone's immediate purposes and that's about the extent of it.

 

[katydid23]

Agree. When one is genuinely afraid of someone, their usual good nature can change drastically. Their habits, routine, mental outlook, concentration ability, mood, physical appearance and health, even their typical character can change. Often: they have little or no control over the changes they undergo--and feel powerless.

I think many more people would have known about her fear if it was true about CF--even if they weren't told it was CF she feared.

I think CF, again, served someone's immediate purposes and that's about the extent of it.

I have a very beautiful daughter. She was a model and an actress and she got lots of attention---some of it UNWANTED attention. Usually she handled it herself by blocking people or telling them to GO AWAY. But the few times that she was frightened by some one online or texting, she asked her older brother to help her give them a message. When she was truly afraid she reached out to us for help.

That is why I do not believe she was 'afraid' of CF. Her conversation with her cousin did not show that she was 'afraid' of CF. She was afraid of continuing to talk to him because of what it might lead to. Very different than being in fear of him.