Anna Christian Waters (Missing 1/16/1973 from Half Moon Bay, CA)

[itsreenw]

Thanks, everybody, for your kind words. It is difficult to not feel down after a promising lead turns out to be a dud, but setbacks are not defeat.

When I spoke to the adoptee, I promised her that as I uncovered any information that may be of benefit to her in her search for her birth-parents, I would pass them on. In that vain, if anyone out there could volunteer any knowledge about the adoption process, please PM me so we can discuss a couple of issues off-forum. Thanks!

Dr. Doogie, I PM'd you. Contact me at your convenience.

 

[mysteriew]

This is sort of off topic, but I thought it might be inspirational about now.

Although unwed, Maggie Lee was overjoyed when she gave birth to a beautiful baby girl in 1922.

But just 11 days later -- before she had even named her newborn daughter -- the baby was taken from her.

Maggie, who died in 1992, never saw her baby again. She never knew that a family who illegally bought the baby named her Emma, hid her and kept her as their own.

Emma, now 83 years old, finally heard the news she had waited eight decades to hear on Dec. 25, 2005.

Her own daughter, Sharon Cummins of Pensacola, had tracked down her mother's blood relatives.


For those who are on similar searchers for missing loved ones, Sharon offers this advice:

"Turn over every stone,'' she said. "Reach out. Make calls. Be very diplomatic and say who you are and why you are calling. Follow up, and never give up.''

To those who are keeping the secrets that could help reunite others with their loved ones, she said, "Lies serve no purpose. They only hurt people.''
http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060114/LIFE/601140308/1004

 

[Becba]

Has it been consider his name real name was Bobby and not Brody since that is what his girlfriend called him? She may have known him from a young age as Bobby (Robert) and he took on the name Brody later for numerical purposes as he became emersed on that belief.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Has it been consider his name real name was Bobby and not Brody since that is what his girlfriend called him? She may have known him from a young age as Bobby (Robert) and he took on the name Brody later for numerical purposes as he became emersed on that belief.

This is a distinct possibility, but only knowing "Bobby" is too wide of a criteria to follow up on. I am exploring an angle that may turn up more info on Brody and the circles that he ran in. No details for now - too speculative and weird to include in a post right now.

 

[Becba]

This is a distinct possibility, but only knowing "Bobby" is too wide of a criteria to follow up on. I am exploring an angle that may turn up more info on Brody and the circles that he ran in. No details for now - too speculative and weird to include in a post right now.

I think you have the right guy as George Brody due to everything that has been found about him. Just thought looking for a Robert Brody may turn up something.
I can see the idea is not to attempt to cover all your bases at first but to eliminated efficiently until you get a hit.

 

[shadowangel]

This is a distinct possibility, but only knowing "Bobby" is too wide of a criteria to follow up on. I am exploring an angle that may turn up more info on Brody and the circles that he ran in. No details for now - too speculative and weird to include in a post right now.

Brother Doog-I had time to think on this through the evening...Its not as weird as it seems at first glance. And, I am not a believer in coincidence.

 

[mysteriew]

One of the sites on the religion said that often the first sign that the person had become a believer, was when the went to court and filed for a name change. However, they usually ended up with some outlandish name to bring their name into line with the numerical value system they suscribe to. (Hence the Eifee).
However, Bobby is usually a first name, and it sounds as though the gf used it as such. So maybe instead of George Brody, maybe his name is Robert Brody or even Robert George Brody or George Robert Brody. (PT, wanna try running those names through the numerical system along with Anna's?)

 

[Becba]

One of the sites on the religion said that often the first sign that the person had become a believer, was when the went to court and filed for a name change. However, they usually ended up with some outlandish name to bring their name into line with the numerical value system they suscribe to. (Hence the Eifee).
However, Bobby is usually a first name, and it sounds as though the gf used it as such. So maybe instead of George Brody, maybe his name is Robert Brody or even Robert George Brody or George Robert Brody. (PT, wanna try running those names through the numerical system along with Anna's?)

Yes, the name I meant was Robert Brody. I had been reading all night and posted switching Robert (bobby) for Brody when I meant to type George. I know that is throwing more to check out into the case but if he was called Bobby before then that may have been his name instead of George. I am sure he wasn't born believing in this numeralogy thing and he would want his name to be insinc with it. He said his name number was 27. Nines were stated to be and important number. 27 = 3 x 9. I bet the name Robert would have thrown that off.

Also, on that same frame of thought, it would be interesting to see what the numeric value of Anna Eiffee Brody is. Or Effie Brody. I think when he wanted her name changed it was to rplace the middle name and instead it was only agreed to be added. Annasmom might be asked about this. Or he wanted her first name to be Eiffee instead of Anna.
Anna Eiffee Brody
Eiffee Anna Brody
Eiffee Christian Brody
Eiffee Brody
compared to;
George Brody
George Robert Brody
Robert George Brody

 

[Becba]

One site, and I have no idea if they use the right kind of neumerology, has

Rogert George Brody with a digit value of 63 and one digit value of 9.
Anna Christian Eiffee Waters with a value of 90 and one digit value of 9.

Both have the lucky 9.


I tried posting the link but it would not work.

 

[Annasmom]

Yes, the name I meant was Robert Brody. I had been reading all night and posted switching Robert (bobby) for Brody when I meant to type George. I know that is throwing more to check out into the case but if he was called Bobby before then that may have been his name instead of George. I am sure he wasn't born believing in this numeralogy thing and he would want his name to be insinc with it. He said his name number was 27. Nines were stated to be and important number. 27 = 3 x 9. I bet the name Robert would have thrown that off.

Also, on that same frame of thought, it would be interesting to see what the numeric value of Anna Eiffee Brody is. Or Effie Brody. I think when he wanted her name changed it was to rplace the middle name and instead it was only agreed to be added. Annasmom might be asked about this. Or he wanted her first name to be Eiffee instead of Anna.
Anna Eiffee Brody
Eiffee Anna Brody
Eiffee Christian Brody
Eiffee Brody
compared to;
George Brody
George Robert Brody
Robert George Brody

Becba. Thank you for your work. Note that the name Eifee only has one "F", which might make a difference in your computations. It seems to me that he (Brody) had suggested another name entirely, but when I objected, he and Anna's father wanted then to add "Eifee" to her registered name, making her Anna Christian Eifee Waters.

 

[Annasmom]

Dr. Doogie IS wonderful Anna's mom and we are all awaiting word!

I'm sorry about the misinformation I gave out... I thought her brothers were younger, not older....

just goes to show people can't ask the questions often enough.

Hope you and the family are bearing up well over this excitement... its a roller coaster ride for you guys... I don't envy you... but I sure am glad you are all willing to take it!

Strange, I was more disappointed for Doogie than for us. We've been through quite a few close but ultimately false leads. Thank you so much for your support.

 

[PonderingThings]

Anna's mom every post you make, makes me smile!

you are one amazing lady!

I'm going to do the numerology thing (using various systems) on all the names suggested on the thread, and will post the results tomorrow. Its been a long week and I don't think my brain can count 2+2 correctly this afternoon!

 

[Becba]

Becba. Thank you for your work. Note that the name Eifee only has one "F", which might make a difference in your computations. It seems to me that he (Brody) had suggested another name entirely, but when I objected, he and Anna's father wanted then to add "Eifee" to her registered name, making her Anna Christian Eifee Waters.

The spelling makes a big difference! lol. I hope there is progress with this case.
Also I hope you do write a book, as the story is facinating and you are very articulate when you write.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

...I hope you do write a book, as the story is facinating and you are very articulate when you write.

I have read Annasmom's manuscript and it is very fascinating. I hope, with all of your help, to help her write a happy ending.

 

[KT Can]

Hello to all. I haven't posted much lately but I am definitely still working on the Kabalarian angle. The attached article is about a former Kabalarian, check out her statement in the last paragraph.....

http://www.ualberta.ca/~publicas/folio/34/17/10.html

Like Shadowangel said, I too am not a believer in coincidence. I don't think that this Kabalarian thing is as weird as it seems at first glance. Anna's father was "wierded out" so to speak (no offense meant) due to his schizophrenia and we know that Brody was a wierd bird as well so I wouldn't discount anything, no matter how far out there. I am currently trying to track down former Kabalarian members. I would like to get some more information about their old California location as well as have anyone formerly associated with the group take a look at Brody's photo to see if there is recognition. Long shot maybe, but worth a try if you have nothing else.

Dr. Doogie and Anna's Mom - I am so sorry about your recent let down. Just please know that there are people out there that care and will keep working on this for you.

 

[PonderingThings]

KT Can's last post had me laughing about the last paragraph... then got me thinking. Did George ever change his name too, as far as you know?

 

[PonderingThings]

http://www.spiritlink.com/kinds.html

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Chaldean
Chaldean numerology was originally developed in Ancient Babylon (now Iraq), and combines Kabbalistic name interpretation with aspects of astrology.

The 9 is considered holy and therefore is kept apart from other vibrations, except when it results as the sum of vibrations (e.g., from an individual's name). In Chaldean numerology, compound numbers always used. Single digits represent the outer aspects of a person, while double digits reveal inner influences.

G E O R G E.................. B R O D Y
3+5+7+2+3+5=25...........2+2+7+4+1=16......... TOTAL NAME=41

[/size]G E O R G E................... R O B E R T .................... B R O D Y
[size=+1]3+5+7+2+3+5=25...........2+7+2+5+2+4=22.............[/size][size=+1]2+2+7+4+1=16.........
TOTAL NAME=63 **NOTE REDUCES TO A MAGICAL 9
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B O B B Y .................... G E O R G E ................ B R O D Y
[size=+1]2+7+2+2+1=14..........3+5+7+2+3+5=25...........2+2+7+4+1=16......... TOTAL NAME=55[/size]
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A N N A......... E I F E E................ C H R I S T I A N............. W A T E R S
1+5+5+1=12... 5+1+8+5+5=24 3+5+2+1+3+4+1+1+5=25.....6+1+4+5+2+3=21 NAME TOTAL=82

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A N N A......... E I F E E................ W A T E R S
1+5+5+1=12... 5+1+8+5+5=24.....6+1+4+5+2+3=21 NAME TOTAL=57


[/size] [size=+1]E I F E E................ W A T E R S
5+1+8+5+5=24.....6+1+4+5+2+3=21
NAME TOTAL=45 [/size][size=+1]**NOTE REDUCES TO A MAGICAL 9[/size]
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E I F E E................ C H R I S T I A N............. W A T E R S
5+1+8+5+5=24 3+5+2+1+3+4+1+1+5=25.....6+1+4+5+2+3=21 NAME TOTAL=70[/size]
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Test with the Brody surname - that did NOT happen
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A N N A......... E I F E E................ B R O D Y
1+5+5+1=12... 5+1+8+5+5=24[/size][size=+1].......2+2+7+4+1=16......[/size][size=+1] NAME TOTAL=52[/size]
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[/size][size=+1]
E I F E E................ C H R I S T I A N............. [/size][size=+1] B R O D Y[/size]
[size=+1]5+1+8+5+5=24.... 3+5+2+1+3+4+1+1+5=25.....[/size][size=+1]2+2+7+4+1=16[/size][size=+1] NAME TOTAL=65[/size]

[size=+1]E I F E E...................... [/size][size=+1] B R O D Y[/size]
[size=+1]5+1+8+5+5=24..........[/size][size=+1]2+2+7+4+1=16...........[/size][size=+1] NAME TOTAL=40[/size]


It is my understanding that the ORDER of the names is not important, but the number of names is. (although I could be wrong)

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Using this system we appear to have a "Magic 9 hit" with
Eifee Waters and George Robert Brody

 

[PonderingThings]

Pythagorian

Pythagorean numerology analyzes both name and date of birth, and the interaction between the two. The basic vibrations are 1 through 9, although the 11 (K) and 22 (V) are not reduced to a single digit because these are master vibrations

GEORGE................... BRODY
7+5+6+9+7+5=39.....2+9+6+4+7=28.....Name Total=67
Single Digit 3................1
Name Total (Single Digit) = 4

G E O R G E................... R O B E R T ........... B R O D Y
7+5+6+9+7+5=39.....9+6+2+5+9+2=33.....2+9+6+4+7=28....Name Total=90
Single Digit 3......................6...........................1
Name Total (Single Digit) = 10 = 1[size=+1][/size]

B O B B Y .................... G E O R G E ................ B R O D Y
2+6+2+2+7=19..... 7+5+6+9+7+5=39.......2+9+6+4+7=28....Name Total=86
Single Digit 1......................3...........................1
Name Total (Single Digit) = 5
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ANNA.................. EIFEE.................CHRISTIAN.........................WATERS
1+5+5+1=12.....5+9+6+5+5=30....3+8+9+9+1+2+9+1+5=47.....5+9+2+5+9+1=31
Name Total=120

Single Digit 3....................3............................11.........................................4
Name Total (Single Digit) = 3
[size=+1] A N N A..............E I F E E................ W A T E R S
[/size]1+5+5+1=12.....5+9+6+5+5=30.......5+9+2+5+9+1=31
Name Total=73

Single Digit 3....................3.......................4
Name Total (Single Digit) = 10 = 1[size=+1][/size] [size=+1]E I F E E................ W A T E R S
[/size]5+9+6+5+5=30.......5+9+2+5+9+1=31
Name Total=61

Single Digit 3....................4
Name Total (Single Digit) = 7[size=+1][/size]

EIFEE.................CHRISTIAN.........................WATERS
5+9+6+5+5=30....3+8+9+9+1+2+9+1+5=47.....5+9+2+5+9+1=31
Name Total=108

Single Digit .3............................11.........................................4
Name Total (Single Digit) = 9

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Test with the Brody surname - that did NOT happen
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[/size][size=+1] A N N A..............E I F E E................ B R O D Y
[/size]1+5+5+1=12.....5+9+6+5+5=30.......2+9+6+4+7=28
Name Total=70

Single Digit 3....................3.......................1
Name Total (Single Digit) = 7[size=+1][/size]
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[/size]EIFEE.................CHRISTIAN.........................[size=+1] B R O D Y[/size]
5+9+6+5+5=30....3+8+9+9+1+2+9+1+5=47.....2+9+6+4+7=28
Name Total=105

Single Digit .3............................11........................1
Name Total (Single Digit) = 6[size=+1][/size]

EIFEE.................[size=+1] B R O D Y[/size]
5+9+6+5+5=30......2+9+6+4+7=28
Name Total=58

Single Digit .3.....................1
Name Total (Single Digit) = 4[size=+1][/size]


It is my understanding that the ORDER of the names is not important, but the number of names is. (although I could be wrong)

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Using this system, if we look at the "Name Total - single digit" we have a match with 4:
George Brody and Eifee Waters
or
George Brody and Eifee Brody


We also have a match "Name Total - single digit" with 1:
George Robert Brody and Anna Eifee Waters



As an aside:
The name Christian is a very strong, powerful, name in this system as its an 11 vibration.

 

[PonderingThings]

I am not sure that Brody used either system....

I did not run the names using the North American System of Numerology as I believe he would have held it in disdain.

I'm done for now

 

[smile22]

i just thought of something that might be of use to the number system. you know how he had changed annas name to be nsync with his own name well what if brody is not his name like we know it is and he used his real name when doing the name change and that all the systems we are using to figure out what number system he used is not working beacuse we dont have brodys real name. think about it we would have to find all the number systems out their. Then we would have to use each system with the different variations of her name and his name and what if none of them work like they are suposed to and none of them line up with brody then that would mean he used his real name when he did the eifee name. i hope i didnt confuse anyone. what if we put up brodys picture in a website like someone could create one and it would say have u seen this man or know his true identity i would be willing to help out with the picture and website we could set up an email address to get leads in