Anna Christian Waters (Missing 1/16/1973 from Half Moon Bay, CA)

[smile22]

oh ok someone said that they had found and effie or something in an email search to that person please email them do not give out the add wait for a reply and see what the person says

 

[Dr. Doogie]

can someone clarifly what "Eifee" means was it a name that her mom and step dad and family refered her to

As best we can tell, "Eifee" does not have any meaning. It is just a combination of letters that when added to "Anna Christian Waters" arrives at the same numerilogical value as Brody. (Yes, it is kooky, but a lot of people believe this junk.)

A google search of "eifee" turns up as a first name and a surname once each from geneaologies dating back to the 1800's, but is seldom used and never recently.

The name does turn up in several foriegn language web sites. Evidently, something in an Asian language when translated into english comes up as "eifee".

Anna's mother and step-father never used the name "Eifee". However, Anna's birth father did, which is why it turning up as a email address owned by an Anna fits nicely with my hypothesis about Anna being taken by her father.

Shadowangel: The dead woman's name was not "Eifee", though that is a good thought. I have refrained from mentioning her by name because she was certainly a victim of Brody's manipulation and was obviously not involved in Anna's disappearance because she had passed away before 1973.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Upon re-reading some of my posts, I think it is necessary to make this one point: While I admit that my looking at the case tends to lead me to George Waters being involved in Anna's disappearance, I should emphasize that I believe Brody to be the true bad guy here. Waters was by all reports was a handsome, well-educated, even "brilliant" man who could have achieved great things except for two misfortunes: his mental illness and his meeting Brody who exploited that illness. I am no expert on the ethics of how responsible the mentally ill are for their own actions, but there is no excuse for how Brody took advantage of a sick man for his own benifit - regardless of whether they were involved in Anna's disappearance.

 

[meggilyweggily]

Doogie -- I made the corrections you mentioned to Anna Waters's case file. If there's additional information, pictures, whatever, you want me to post, just send it to me.

 

[HeartofTexas]

Dr. Doogie, I've had the privilege of knowing many schizophrenics in my life, and I can tell you unequivocally that they are truly the walking wounded in our society. Their illness is far too complicated to describe here (there are at least 40+ different diagnoses of schizophrenia), but I can tell you they lack any clue to being used or abused by "normal" people. If Dr. Waters was indeed a schizophrenic, then he was a victim of Mr. Brody in every sense. Mr. Brody knew what he was doing every step of the way, but Dr. Waters never had a clue. Dr. Waters had only fallen under the spell of a man who probably promised hope and friendship.

 

[2sisters]

This relationship between the 2 seems quite bizzare. I belive this was addressed but I can't find the post so sorry to repeat anything, but, were the 2 involved in a homosexual relationship? If so then the relationship would make more sense.
Is it possible that they took Anna, brainwashed her and that she today has no clue who Anna Waters is? But then what would have became of her after her father's suicide, she would have only been 14. It is a puzzling story but i feel like she is alive somewhere.

Annasmom, glad you can come and post. I can't imagine how hard this is for you and I hope you find answers someday soon.

 

[meggilyweggily]

This relationship between the 2 seems quite bizzare. I belive this was addressed but I can't find the post so sorry to repeat anything, but, were the 2 involved in a homosexual relationship? If so then the relationship would make more sense.
Is it possible that they took Anna, brainwashed her and that she today has no clue who Anna Waters is? But then what would have became of her after her father's suicide, she would have only been 14. It is a puzzling story but i feel like she is alive somewhere.

No, their relationship wasn't sexual, I believe Doogie said. More a cult leader type of relationship.

Since Anna was only five when she was taken, you wouldn't have to really brainwash her. People generally don't remember very much before they're about six years old, and almost nothing before three -- what few memories Anna has of her early childhood now may not be sufficient to make her realize she once lived with another family.

 

[shadowangel]

As best we can tell, "Eifee" does not have any meaning. It is just a combination of letters that when added to "Anna Christian Waters" arrives at the same numerilogical value as Brody. (Yes, it is kooky, but a lot of people believe this junk.)

You've done some amazing work here, Doc, but I ain't buying this one! :angel:
I understand the numerology angle...But, somehow, some way, I have to believe that name means something. Maybe something from the context of the time that was missed..?

Were Brody's prints ever ran to try to determine his real identity? There had to have been something he touched from which prints could have been lifted...
Did Waters have any credit cards at the time? Obviously the two didn't go tooling around town all the time in a white van, or someone would have noticed. I'm thinking a rental (unless rentals could be secured with cash back in the early '70s).

And, thinking out loud...Has there ever been any hint of a connection to Satanism? I ask because Anton LeVey was based in San Francisco, and had a small following at the time. He was known to have an obsession with Jayne Mansfield. When Jayne was killed in a car accident in '67, so was her lawyer/friend, Sam Brody. LeVey is reported to have taken credit for the accident and killing Brody...

 

[mysteriew]

Annasmom, thank you for coming here and posting. I know that has to be extremely difficult for you, and I am so sorry that you have so many questions about your little girl.
I admire your ability to go on, let alone to try to come here and answer questions. Yet I also think it would be questions that you live with every day. I have children, and I don't know what I would do if something like this happened to one of mine.
I mainly wanted to let you know I admire your strength, and patience with us.
I hesitate in asking this because I know you have had to do it many, many times over the years. But I was wondering if you could tell us the story of Anna's disappearance based on what you remember. I understand that there will be details that you may not remember, or may not be comfortable giving out. You mentioned that some people have jumped to conclusions, without knowing the whole story and I don't want that to happen here. One of the ways to prevent that from happening, is to learn the story as it unfolded.
If this would be too difficult for you, then I understand. Only give us as much info as you are comfortable with.
And thank you for coming.

 

[Annasmom]

Annasmom-I take it that your ex-husband's involvement with Brody pretty much estranged him from contact with family and friends?

Just to clarify...Would Anna have likely recognized her father by the time she disappeared? (If I ask any questions that you find disturbing, let me know..Sometimes I get on a track and forget myself).

I don't think she would have recognized him. He left home when she was a year old and never saw her after that, though he sent a small support check for her each month. And, yes, he systematically "severed relationships" (his words) with every friend and family member, usually by introducing them to Brody and being dissatisfied with their reaction to him.

Thanks for your sensitivity; I am not disturbed by any of your questions, and I very much appreciate your interest.

 

[Annasmom]

Annasmom, thank you for coming here and posting. I know that has to be extremely difficult for you, and I am so sorry that you have so many questions about your little girl.
I admire your ability to go on, let alone to try to come here and answer questions. Yet I also think it would be questions that you live with every day. I have children, and I don't know what I would do if something like this happened to one of mine.
I mainly wanted to let you know I admire your strength, and patience with us.
I hesitate in asking this because I know you have had to do it many, many times over the years. But I was wondering if you could tell us the story of Anna's disappearance based on what you remember. I understand that there will be details that you may not remember, or may not be comfortable giving out. You mentioned that some people have jumped to conclusions, without knowing the whole story and I don't want that to happen here. One of the ways to prevent that from happening, is to learn the story as it unfolded.
If this would be too difficult for you, then I understand. Only give us as much info as you are comfortable with.
And thank you for coming.

Thank you for such a sweet letter. It is difficult to summarize the case briefly, since so much has been investigated in so many different areas over so many years. I wrote a lengthy manuscript containing everything I know about it and gave it to Dr. Doogie, who has referred to it several times and has posted photographs and maps on this forum. The most significant thing I can tell you is that not a shred of evidence, physical or otherwise, has EVER been found to explain Anna’s disappearance. Everything possible has been done except using the resources of the Internet, and this is what Doogie and I are hoping will shed some new light on the matter.

Very briefly: My daughter disappeared from our rural home in January, 1973. She had just returned from kindergarten on the school bus and was playing in the back yard. I became aware of a great silence after about ten minutes and went out to check on her. When she could not be found, I panicked and called the Sheriff’s department, who responded in less than a half-hour and sounded a siren, hoping to get her attention. The grounds and surroundings were searched with helicopters, divers, and riders on horseback. A neighbor said she heard rustling in the bushes near the creek right before she heard the siren. A friend coming to visit said (after several days) that he had passed a white van on the road with a young man and an old man who waved and acted suspiciously friendly. He said that he had greeted Anna at the front door as he came in, which made us think she had walked up to get the mail from the mailbox. This was the last anyone saw of her.

We later walked along the schoolbus route and found that there were several places where our house could be watched by someone without their being seen. Someone could well have followed the schoolbus that day.

Despite searches over a year’s time of the creek, there was not a single indication that she had gone there. Divers picked out the many log jams, one by one, over a two-mile stretch, and a geologist later said it was impossible, considering tides, currents, and silting patterns, that we should not have recovered evidence if Anna had gone into the water.

Remember that this all happened before there was a protocol for searching for missing children. There were no groups such as the National Association for Missing and Exploited Children, which has carried her case as “probable non-family abduction”, along with age-progressed pictures, since they were established.

Anna’s father and his elderly mentor were followed and investigated several times. They were very secretive, whether because they were involved or because in this, as in all else, they were just paranoid, we do not know. No evidence was found connecting them to Anna’s disappearance..

If you have questions, don’t hesitate to ask. I do so appreciate your concern and help. Even if we never find Anna, it is a consolation to me that we have tried every way possible to find her.

 

[mysteriew]

Anna's Mom thank you so much for responding. I was afraid that it might be too painful for you. And I would not want to be the cause of any additional pain.
I also know you live with these questions every day, but sometimes it gets difficult to continue talking about the same things over and over. Again may I say how much I admire your strength.
I know that feeling of things are "too quiet". I have also experienced it with my kids, but was lucky in that it usually meant that they were into some minor mischief. My thoughts and prayers are with you and I am hoping that someday, someway you will get some info about Anna.

 

[HeartofTexas]

Annasmom, were your ex- and Mr. Brody only followed and watched, or were they actually questioned. If so, how did they respond to questions by law enforcement?

Also, if Anna hadn't seen her father since she was one year old, how did it come about that Mr. Brody wanted to change her middle name from Christian to Eifee?

Shadow, it's possible that EIFEE is pronounced like the letters FE. I wonder if it's possible that those are either the initials of Brody's real name, or possibly the initials of the woman he was interested in? It's a stretch, but I guess anything is possible. It's also possible EIFEE is pronounced like "eye-fee", so I could be way off on this.

 

[docwho3]

. . . .Brody was a man in his sixties at that time who immediately started to manipulate Waters and his family into his small cult of personality. . . . .

Was this phrase "cult of personality" meant as this actual cult
http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/personality_cult13_2.html

or was the term describing "Cult of personality is a term for what is perceived to be excessive adulation of a single living leader, especially a head of state. The term was coined by the General Secretary of the Soviet Communist Party Nikita Khrushchev in his 1956 "Secret Speech" denouncing Joseph Stalin to 20th Party Congress. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

oh and another bit of info for what its worth to readers:
Eifee is actually both a surname and also used as a first name as I found by doing a simple web search.

Also someone had mentioned the possibility of the name being an alias borrowed from elsewhere: I also found another Brody, George although as yet I see no link I include the info in case such a link should show up later.
"Brody, George
George Brody - Pueblo Chieftain - July 30, 2002 - George Brody, 82, of Pueblo, passed away July 27, 2002. Mr. Brody was born Feb. 18, 1920, in New York City, N.Y. He was married to Edith Yord who survives him. Mr. Brody was owner of Martin Clothiers. A graveside service was held on Monday, July 29, 2002, at B'nai Jacob Cemetery. Memorials may be sent to the B'nai Jacob Cemetery in care of Mr. Forey Vean at 107 S. Union, Pueblo, Colo. 81003."
http://www.kmitch.com/Pueblo/obits/bro-buo.html

 

[mysteriew]

There is a nickname where the Nick is Effie- short for Euphemia. A city named Effie in Minnesota http://www.edgeofthewilderness.org/effie/effie.htm
and Effie awards which are related to advertising. http://www.effie.org/award_winners/search_winners.html
An Effie's restaurant in Pa. http://philadelphia.citysearch.com/profile/8959635
as well as an Effie's place bed and breakfast in Wilmington Ohio.
http://effies-place.com/
Eifee could be a mispelling or could be a way of personalizing the name Effie.

 

[docwho3]

A few more samples of eifee names:
"User Info: Anna
Avatar:
Login: Eifee
Name: Anna
Level: Novice (What does this mean?)
Email: eifee_ AT hotmail DOT com "
http://perplexus.info/user.php?uid=2058
eifee as surname(scroll down or do cntrl & F for page search and enter the name eifee)
http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/mt/stillwater/1930/ed52-brief.txt
Authors: Charles T. McGee with Eifee Poy Yew Chow
http://www.healthlibrary.com/bookreviews/8-13-nov04.html
7 Cadson, Eifee SC 12:04 9
http://205.173.41.7/athletics/XC/1967/ma_4.htm

 

[HeartofTexas]

Doc, I believe the Anna/Eifee one above is the one Shadow referenced a few threads ago. If I'm not mistaken, he's emailed this girl to see if she could possibly be Anna W. It seemed like she had a last name that was Chinese or Japanese, so he doubts it's her.

 

[docwho3]

Doc, I believe the Anna/Eifee one above is the one Shadow referenced a few threads ago. If I'm not mistaken, he's emailed this girl to see if she could possibly be Anna W. It seemed like she had a last name that was Chinese or Japanese, so he doubts it's her.

I did not think she was the same but I wanted to give examples of the name being used with that spelling. Thats why I posted more than one link.

Thanks for the response and info though.

 

[HeartofTexas]

You may be right, Doc... and this may be an entirely new one. Sometimes it's hard for me to remember or absorb from page to page all of the information that is offered.

 

[docwho3]

You may be right, Doc... and this may be an entirely new one. Sometimes it's hard for me to remember or absorb from page to page all of the information that is offered.

I agree with you. I also do not think the name I posted was that of the missing girl. I had read where there was some doubt as to the name as it was spelled making any sense as a true name so I ran a simple web search using that spelling & found some legitimate name examples using that spelling. That was just one of the examples.

As to reading so many pages of info: You are right. It is hard to remember it all. Sometimes after reading so much info I feel as if my head is spinning.
Some of these forum topics have over 15 pages of threads and each thread may have multiple pages of posts.