Anna Christian Waters (Missing 1/16/1973 from Half Moon Bay, CA)

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  • #141
Dr. Doogie said:
During my most recent conversation with Anna's step-father led to another revelation: By pure coincidence, one of the neighbors of Anna's parents knew of George Brody. Brody was also in the process of bringing a young women that the neighbor knew under his influence. Unfortunately, the neighbor is now deceased and I do not know if enough information still exists to track down the young woman.

(Some of the above info may be incorrect due to sketchy memories - I will confirm any or all of this with Annasmom and post any clarifications.)
Doogie, Brody lived with a woman, now deceased, in the apartment owned by a man we knew. But there was a young woman, Seka, who several years later he was trying to bring under his influence.
 
  • #142
shadowangel said:
First I have to say something I've been remiss in up until now...Annasmom, you are an inspiration.
Knowing what you know about their activities, can you speculate on why Brody had such a large amount of cash hidden away?
Thank you, shadowangel. No idea at all about the money, except that I suppose a person who was quite paranoid might imagine he'd need a lot of money...I was surprised at all the money he spent on clothes, since he lived in a seedy hotel.
 
  • #143
Annasmom said:
Thank you, shadowangel. No idea at all about the money, except that I suppose a person who was quite paranoid might imagine he'd need a lot of money...I was surprised at all the money he spent on clothes, since he lived in a seedy hotel.
Thank you for your strength and determination. :angel:
Lots of "front" cash, expensive clothes...Maybe he was running a much larger scam somewhere that has yet to come to light?
 
  • #144
The more I look into this case, the more that I am convinced that George Brody is the "Rosetta Stone" that will unlock answers to Anna's disappearance. If he and George waters were not involved, it would be such a strange set of coincidences: that Annasmom would lose her husband to an odd con-man AND lose her daughter to a stranger abduction within a five year period. No, common sense tells me that the two events were related.

Brody, despite his paranoia has left little clues in his life and in his death: a birthdate of Aug. 15, 1923 (obviously false, but why that date instead of one that was more fitting of his true age?), that he was born in Mass. and was involved in politics, etc. Was there perhaps a real "George Brody" that these "facts" relate to? One thought that I have is to mail a pictue of George Brody to every household named Brody in Mass. to see if anyone recognizes him as a relative or an acquaintence. Any other suggestions are welcome.

My discussions with Anna's step-father have reinforced the level of paranoia that the two Georges lived every day of their later years with. They would not even step out of their hotel room without immediately beginning "evasive" manuvers to avoid being followed (doubling back without warning, making numerous turns in direction for no reason, etc.) What is humorous in a sick way is that they were being followed (The old joke: Just because your paranoid doesn't mean you aren't being watched). They also used several alias in their day-to-day business (Brody was also known as "George Bee", while Waters was registered at the hotel as "Walters".

In addition to the paranoia, the egomania of Brody is stunning: he often would wake Waters in the middle of the night to badger him about "Did you see how that waitress was looking at me? She wanted me." and other ridiculous diatribes. Waters was working three jobs as a doctor at various facilities, yet Brody would seemingly purposely deprive him of sleep to listen to his nonsense for hours on end.

Attached is another picture of Brody and Waters from around a year after Anna disappeared. You can see in it how Waters has adopted the same style of clothing as his mentor.



http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drdoogief/detail?.dir=aac9&.dnm=a9dfscd.jpg
 
  • #145
What a strange and sad story. I've read through most of the posts here and I think that "George Brody" was a very intelligent, but a very manipulative man. I think he was the type that could spot a weakness in someone very quickly and then prey upon that weakness to his advantage. George Waters was obviously mentally ill and paranoid and Brody played that to perfection. I think Brody probably had a very clear mind throughout his life, but played a good game, to a degree.

I have just some random thoughts that may mean nothing:

Could the name change for Anna have created a loophole for them to obtain some type of legal documentation (birth cert...) to "adopt" her out to someone once they abducted her? Is there any way to know if legal papers for her were ever requested by anyone prior to her disappearance? My guess is that Brody had played this loophole before (maybe more than once) to change his identity.

I think Brody possibly wanted "rid of Anna" for 2 reasons: George could stop his child support payments and there would be more money for Brody to bleed from him

AND, I think it's possible that Waters, even though mentally ill, possibly had a soft spot for his little girl. I think by removing Anna from the picture, Brody could "own" George completely.

As sick and weird as these 2 were, I can't see them killing Anna. I don't have any evidence to back that up - it's just my interpretation of the events as posted here. Even though they were strange by anyone's standards, there appeared to be no violence and George was a doctor - a caregiver.

Annasmom ...what a burden you have had to carry all these years. I believe your rewards will be huge at some point in the future!!
 
  • #146
Another interesting thing about George Brody that came out of my discussion with Anna's step-father: both Brody and George Waters were basically emotionally weak. What he meant by that was that if they were ever confronted face to face, they would have cowered and basically run away. Because of this, it is his opinion that if they were involved with Anna's disappearance, they would most likely have had someone else actually do the abduction, either by hire or by manipulation.
 
  • #147
LButler said:
As sick and weird as these 2 were, I can't see them killing Anna. I don't have any evidence to back that up - it's just my interpretation of the events as posted here. Even though they were strange by anyone's standards, there appeared to be no violence and George was a doctor - a caregiver.
I agree. However, there was one very disturbing part of this story that I have not posted: Brody used to refer to Anna as "the Tot". When Anna's step-father was listening in to conversations between the two Georges in their hotel room, Waters was overheard to say, "I am glad the Tot is dead". This could have been in reference to Anna, but also could have been refering to another child or could have meant that they were not involved and they assumed that Anna was dead based on her disappearance.
 
  • #148
Waters was overheard to say, "I am glad the Tot is dead"
Chilling. This is her father saying this?
 
  • #149
Mr. E said:
Chilling. This is her father saying this?
Yes, it was the father that said that. Keep in mind that this was heard on an electronic listening device through a wall and the context of the statement was undecipherable. This statement was made some time after Anna's disappearance and could have been in reference to anything (something on TV, etc.)
 
  • #150
If Anna was taken by a stranger, here are some possibly related disappearances (all nearby in location and/or time frame):

A miising 17 year old boy, last seen hitchhiking within a few miles of where Anna disappeared - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bonick_peter.html

A six year old girl disappeared three months after Anna within 50 miles - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/davenport_tracy.html

A five year old girl disappeared a little more than a year after Anna within 40 miles - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sumpter_cynthia.html

I have not been able to locate any obvious possible matches concerning any unidentified Jane Does in the general area that Anna disappeared. Someone out there may be able to do a search of those and let us know.
 
  • #151
Did I read this correctly?? They have six year old Tracy Lynn Davenport listed in some places as a runaway?? A 6 year old Runaway? The cindy Sumtner dissappearnce does have some similarites to Anna's dissapearence. Have the wearabouts of either of the suspects in the sumtner case when Anna dissapeared ever been checked into?

mjak
 
  • #152
mjak said:
Did I read this correctly?? They have six year old Tracy Lynn Davenport listed in some places as a runaway?? A 6 year old Runaway?
I wondered the same thing - a six year old who runs away goes around the block until dinner time, then comes home. Perhaps, she was doing just that when she was abducted (if she was), but I cannot see any way that this is a "runaway" case.
 
  • #153
mjak said:
Did I read this correctly?? They have six year old Tracy Lynn Davenport listed in some places as a runaway?? A 6 year old Runaway?
I've seen several very young children listed as runaways. Scott Echols is one, and Jose Pereira. Scott might actually have made it -- he strikes me as a streetwise child. Don't know about about Tracy and Jose's cases to tell, but I've seen them classified as runaways some places.
 
  • #154
In the years that the search for Anna have occured, there has never been any clues that she is either dead or alive - no paper trails, no sightings, no possible Jane Does found. We are continuing the search under the premise that she is alive and out there to be found - not because we have any evidence to that fact, but out of faith.

One question that needs to be faced: why has she not tried to find her family. Since she disappeared at age five, she must have some memories of her mother, stepfather and brothers. It is possible that she would have been told some cover story of why she was living with someone else. Perhaps she was told that her family had died or that they had done something to her so horrible that it would cause her to not want to find them. (Similarly, why did Sharon Marshall not try and find her family after she became an adult?) If her father was involved with her disappearance, he and Brody were certainly capable of concocting a horror story that would continue to influence her to this day.

Attached are several age-progressed pictures of what Anna may look like in recent years:

Age 25: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drdoogief/detail?.dir=aac9&.dnm=5fafscd.jpg&.src=ph

Age 31: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drdoogief/detail?.dir=aac9&.dnm=2700scd.jpg&.src=ph

Age 35: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drdoogief/detail?.dir=aac9&.dnm=f803scd.jpg&.src=ph

These pictures are from the NCMEC. Annasmom also felt that the pictures were not the best representation of how Anna would look today, so she has made some alterations as attached: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drdoogief/detail?.dir=aac9&.dnm=f193scd.jpg&.src=ph
 
  • #155
Several theories have been put forth as to why kidnapped children do not attempt to escape or contact family members. I have become very familiar with these theories and concepts in my research into the life of the young lady we know as Sharon Marshall.

Children are by nature very trusting, dependant, and much more resilient than we as adults give them credit for. The pedophiles who kidnap children understand these concepts and make the most of them. Thus it is that they either live far removed from other people (Steven Stayner) or move constantly (Sharon Marshall). This isolates the children, forcing a dependence on the kidnapper. The kidnappers use all manner of pyschological tactics on the children to enforce this dependence-lavishing them with gifts and praise, then withholding any affection, for instance. The children, as a defense mechanism, suppress any thoughts of their prior life.
The kidnapper may threaten the lives of the child's loved ones, telling the children that if they attempt to leave or contact anyone they (the children) wll be responsible for what happens to their family-often going into graphic detail as to what will be done, constantly reinforcing the notion it will be the child's fault.
Further, the kidnapper may shame the child into a complete mental withdrawal from any thoughts of their prior lives. The child may begin to believe that the kidnapping (and any ensuing abuse) is their fault, and that their family will be ashamed of them for what has occured. The kidnapper will reinforce the thoughts of pain the family has suffered because of what the child has done, and that the pain will only be greater if the child returns to the family. The child may grow to believe the family does not want any contact from them.
These monsters who kidnap children will use any form of mental and physical torture at their disposal to keep the child in line.
 
  • #156
I noticed with Steven Staynor, almost an apathy. He wouldn't make the break with Parnell to save himself. He only went to LE to save Timmy.
By the time these kids get older, they are often very distrustful of people. They have had to be so secretive most of their lives so that is second nature to them, and the very person they have to rely on has hurt them. It is almost like they feel better the h*!! they know, than a new h*!!. Also, their self esteem is so low that they feel no one would want them back.
 
  • #157
The children tend to lose their own identity, to become someone else in effect as a survival mechanism. One has to wonder if they can ever recover to any level as to have a productive life. Though I'm alone in my opinion, I believe the tragic end to Steven's story wasn't just coincidence.
 
  • #158
shadowangel said:
The children tend to lose their own identity, to become someone else in effect as a survival mechanism. One has to wonder if they can ever recover to any level as to have a productive life. Though I'm alone in my opinion, I believe the tragic end to Steven's story wasn't just coincidence.
You aren't alone.
Many disbelieve Johnny Gotch's mother, in her story about the visit from Johnny. But if you look at the Gotch case in the same context as Steven and Sharon..........well, it makes me wonder if it wasn't true.
 
  • #159
I've wondered if maybe he did visit, and gave the story he did to explain his absence and why he couldn't bring himself to stay...Maybe it was a fantasy he created in his own mind to explain the years of pain and loss and why he felt completely separated from his old life.
 
  • #160
shadowangel said:
I've wondered if maybe he did visit, and gave the story he did to explain his absence and why he couldn't bring himself to stay...Maybe it was a fantasy he created in his own mind to explain the years of pain and loss and why he felt completely separated from his old life.

I don't know, I tend to believe a lot of the prostitution ring story. There have been other similiar rings found, and whispers of still others. I don't believe that the ring was set up by the government, but I believe that it may have had some high level persons. And the story of the government organization sounds like it may have been something concocted as a response to a child who threatens to go to LE. With knowlege of some high level persons being involved, it would make the threat very believable to a child, or an abused adult.
 
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