Anna Christian Waters (Missing 1/16/1973 from Half Moon Bay, CA)

[shadowangel]

I'm just naturally skeptical of conspiracies, I know there is enough evil in the individual heart to make conspiracies unnecessary. That, of course, doesn't change the possibility. I've just been curious as to why people are so quick to discount his reappearance based soley on the prostitution ring story. That may have been a fiction, but does that mean that such things can't happen? That a missing child, like Anna for example, couldn't show up one day in an attempt to reconnect to a nearly forgotten past?

 

[mysteriew]

Did you see the bust the FBI made yesterday? It is in Crimes in the News. Thought you might be interested in it.

 

[shadowangel]

I did see it. I'm certainly not discounting that such things exist. If anyone can believe the worst of humanity, it would be me....

I just don't understand why people who can't believe such things still can't believe that Jonny may have returned to his home at some point.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

I did a search on the supposed birthday of George Brody of Aug. 15, 1923 to see if a Brody was born on that day. No luck, but as a completely useless bit of trivia, Rose Marie ("Sally" of the old Dick Van Dyke Show) was born on that day. And didn't she work for "Allen Brady"? MMM...Brady...Brody... Okay, so maybe I am getting dingy from too much research...

 

[shadowangel]

I did a search on the supposed birthday of George Brody of Aug. 15, 1923 to see if a Brody was born on that day. No luck, but as a completely useless bit of trivia, Rose Marie ("Sally" of the old Dick Van Dyke Show) was born on that day. And didn't she work for "Allen Brady"? MMM...Brady...Brody... Okay, so maybe I am getting dingy from too much research...

Hey, look at my tie between "Brody" and Anton LeVey! We need to go for a beer someday...:angel:

 

[meggilyweggily]

I don't think it's at all unbelievable that Anna would not contact her family nowadays, if she is alive. She may not know how to -- may not remember her last name, etc. And she may simply not realize how serious this is to her family, and she doesn't want her life disrupted, so she figures she'll just keep her head down.

 

[LButler]

I think that a child in that situation would have been told a story that would remain airtight unless something popped up that made her question things.

For example, what if as "Anna" aged, whoever had her "created" parents for her. Maybe they gave her names (not the correct ones, of course), told her these parents died, showed her the graves.... it would be very easy to concoct a story like this and if they chose "parents" out of the area where they were living, it's unlikely she would ever hear a different story.

I don't ever think that these missing children should be assumed dead because they don't try to contact family after they mature. I just think that a kid in this situation would have been told so many lies, it would take alot of time to find out the truth and pursue it.

 

[PonderingThings]

I was playing around with the name "Eifee" to see what I could google.... then I thought, since Anna is a "mirror image" name, what if I searched for Eefie.

Interestingly enough its the name of an organization for Greek Medical Students! http://www.uoi.gr/students/eefie/english/profile.html

Only because the father was a doctor am I mentioning it. I know its a big reach, but is there any possibility that there is a connection?

Personally I don't believe its a nonesensical name... there was a reason for selecting it, as other names could have added up to the same value and not be so "different". You said they were paranoid... perhaps they hid it in plain sight?

 

[Dr. Doogie]

I was playing around with the name "Eifee" to see what I could google.... then I thought, since Anna is a "mirror image" name, what if I searched for Eefie.

Interestingly enough its the name of an organization for Greek Medical Students! http://www.uoi.gr/students/eefie/english/profile.html

Only because the father was a doctor am I mentioning it. I know its a big reach, but is there any possibility that there is a connection?

Personally I don't believe its a nonesensical name... there was a reason for selecting it, as other names could have added up to the same value and not be so "different". You said they were paranoid... perhaps they hid it in plain sight?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

HOLY CR*P!!! You may have stumbled on something here, Pondering! Annasmom and Waters met while he was studying medicine in Greece. Both were living in Greece at the time and he returned there at least once after they were married for further schooling. I do not know what this means, but you may have solved the mystery of the name "Eifee". I will let Annasmom know about this and get her reaction. Thanks for the sleuthing!

 

[Dr. Doogie]

EEFIE is an Greek association for medical students that was formed in 1993, thirty years after Waters studied medicine there. It is the translation from Greek for the initials that make up the organizations name, so it is unlikely that it has any significance to the case, but what a wierd coincidence. Nice try, Pondering. We need new ideas such as yours to help break the logjam. Thank you and keep trying!

 

[mysteriew]

Dr. Doogie is there any Amsterdam connections?
A poster from there using the nic of eefie
http://www.musician.nl/phpbb/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=1748

Never mind, too young.

 

[PonderingThings]

I'm sorry for the roller coaster Dr. Doogie. I never thought to check out the year formed!

Thanks for the effort on behalf of the family... if I come up with anything else I'll let you know.

 

[PonderingThings]

Dr. Doogie have you ever tried using google books http://books.google.ca for a reference on the name Eifee?

I tried it and the word seems to pop up in German? and Dutch? literature.

I also did the mirror image of the name Eefie and a pharmocology book popped up. Also, I found this listing interesting.... Although I don't believe the author is Anna. (by the way I believe the word cabled is a typo and should be called)

Our Times, Our Lives[size=-1]
by Eve Otto - 2004 - 640 pages
Page 210 - All through my childhood years I was cabled Eefie. Both my parents came from Amsterdam. My father, Johannes Jansen, was born July 14, 1895 and was the son ...[/size]

 

[PonderingThings]

Again, while searching on the name Eifee I came across this restaurant menu:

http://www.footprintseco-resort.com/cocoahousemenu.html

[font=&quot]Bolle Eifee Beef

[/font]

The Tobagonian term for a homemade lamp made from a bottle filled with pitch-oil and a cloth wick, this spicy beef dish might make you think your tongue is aflame! Tender beef strips simmered in a hot and sweet pepper sauce.

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Is there possibly a Tobagonian connection?

Also there apparently was a band called Eifee 65, in 2000. You can find them listed here:
http://www.newmassmedia.com/summermusic00/newv.html
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[PonderingThings]

I removed this post and will send it to Dr. Doogie in a private message.

 

[mysteriew]

I don't know, Ponderingthings. That is pretty out there ever for a schizophrenic. That would mean that they had planned this quite a number of years ahead, waited, and while they waited they asked to have the name added to her name. So instead of trying to hide it, they put it right out there. Schizophrenics are usually more secretive than that.

 

[PonderingThings]

I hear you Mysterview but then Anna's father was very intelligent and was functional (he was working 3 jobs), and Brody managed to have a strong hold over two of his followers - the woman and Anna's dad - that takes cunning.

I admit its a stretch... but since its now almost 30 years later I figure that the non stretches have been exhausted. Perhaps I'm wrong?

By the way I am working on the date she disappeared as well. Perhaps there is a reason why they waited so long? That particular date was important?

...of course this all assumes that they were involved, they might not have been....

 

[shadowangel]

I found a George Brody, with a date of birth of "about 1896". this would have put him at around 70 at the time of Anna's disappearance, which seems a little more consistent with the photo. This person was an immigrant from Czechloslovakia, having immigrated to the US in 1913. He was living in a boarding house in Chicago in 1930, with his occupation listed as "laborer". This might explain the lack of a verifiable past for Brody. I have also found references to the name "Eifee" as both a first and last name in eastern Europe and Russia.

Just thinking out loud again.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Amstrerdam and Denmark have come up a few times when researching "eifee" and now "eefie". There is a person who used [email protected] named Asye Fatma who lives in Denmark. This created a brief period of investigation because "Ayse Fatma" appears to be a Turkish name and one of the family friends who was at the ranch shortly after Anna disppeared was a Turkish man with the first name of "Asya". However, this was nothing more than a coincidence and Annasmom has confirmed that there is no way that the man could have had any connection to the disappearance.

However, the prevailance of "Eifee" and "Eefie" showing up on Danish website leads me to believe that Brody may well have been of Danish heritage. It is something worthy of followup investigation.

If anyone comes up with uses of either "Eifee" or "Eefie" on a site that is in Danish, please forward the link. The private investigator who is involved in this case studied several years in Amsterdam and is fluent in Danish, so he can review the sites and see if he can find any connection.

Thanks to everyone who is spending time doing research on this case. You will never know how grateful the family and I are.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

I found a George Brody, with a date of birth of "about 1896". this would have put him at around 70 at the time of Anna's disappearance, which seems a little more consistent with the photo. This person was an immigrant from Czechloslovakia, having immigrated to the US in 1913. He was living in a boarding house in Chicago in 1930, with his occupation listed as "laborer". This might explain the lack of a verifiable past for Brody. I have also found references to the name "Eifee" as both a first and last name in eastern Europe and Russia.

Just thinking out loud again.

Thanks, Shadowangel. It is possible that this may be the same man. It is also possible that this is the Brody that the man we know as Brody stole his identity. If you could forward the details of where you found this info via private message, I will follow up on it and see if we can trace this man's history any farther and maybe get some answers.